Concern from the Dook game...

GEETEELEE

GEETEELEE

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Yes, we dominated. We racked up yards. But...

The option simply didn't work. Jaybo continually got stuffed on the keeper and when he pitched the back would almost instantly get stuffed.

A big chunk of our ground yardage was Dyer bustin' it up the middle on the dive play. Was Dook just sellin' out on the dive and pass to stop the option? Was this an example of how D1 speed can stop the option?

Or was it due to poor line play? - CPJ did say he though the line regressed in this game...

I liked the outcome of the game, but if Duke was able to stuff the option, what about a team with a real defense?

I'm just worrying....
 
Duke saw our previous game film and saw us working the edges. So they schemed to stop that. Dwyer ripped them on the inside and BeBe ripped them on the deep ball. I don't think thier defense was any more impressive than Miss State.

Duke got lucky we stopped ourselves in the redzone in the first half. Otherwise they would be whining about CPJ throwing the long ball up 34-0.
 
I am not too concerned. We still made plenty of first downs and the score should have been higher, but we fumbled in the red zone once. Defense's I think are going to be able to put pressure on us for sure.

Jaybo didn't pitch a few times when he probably should have, especially in the first half. Then again, that is kind of the beauty of this system. If it's not working it's probably because defense are working their tails off to stop it, and eventually they will get tired as it showed on Saturday. We have the good defense to counter it not working long enough to allow for GT to run with it late in the game with a tired opposing defense.

Not too worried. Another point is this, if they are stopping the option, and we keep committed to it, it opens up the pass game to score points pretty quickly, because again, if they opposing defense is stopping the option then there is about a 95% chance they are not honoring the pass game, which opens up 88 yards pass plays to BeBe. :)
 
Yes Duke sold out to stop the option pitch. That is why Dwyer had 159 yards mainly up the middle. He has had similar games numbers wise but alot of those yards came on an outside pitch. For instance 88 of his yards in the MSU game came on a pitch and not up the middle.

If you were to rewatch the game you would see that Duke's MLB once he saw a pitch coming he would immediatly run to the play side giving no credence to the dive play and the safety would come up to take the pitch man.

Also this is the beauty of the option package that we run. A team may be able to take one or even two things away but we can still burn them with another. Saturday we did it through the air and up the middle because Duke decided to take away the Qb keeper and the A-back pitch. This left one on one coverage on the outside.
 
I agree... I will begin to worry when they can stop the pitch, the keep, the dive, and the pass at the same time. That is what football is. A defense takes away one part of your game and you hope you are not one sided so you can go to another part. Thats what football is. You just have to be able to go to another part of your game and we did.
 
So if Duke was familiar with our offense from the Navy game, what happens next year when everyone is familiar with our offense? I think we'll be okay, but yeah... I couldn't help but think that while watching the Dook stuff those pitches, etc.
 
Allow me to ease your fears, GTL.

GEETEELEE said:
The option simply didn't work. Jaybo continually got stuffed on the keeper and when he pitched the back would almost instantly get stuffed.

A big chunk of our ground yardage was Dyer bustin' it up the middle on the dive play.
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The play Dwyer ate up chunks of yards on was the option play. That he ate up those chunks of yards was proof that the option did work.

Duke picked their poison and we fed it to them. They picked "Dive and Pass please, we choose not to be beaten by Keep and Pitch."


As long as we continue to be capable at diving, keeping, pitching, and throwing, defenses simply don't have enough guys to stop us from diving, keeping, pitching, and throwing, so we will force them to pick a poison, and then we will feed it to them.
 
TechFan4Life said:
So if Duke was familiar with our offense from the Navy game, what happens next year when everyone is familiar with our offense? I think we'll be okay, but yeah... I couldn't help but think that while watching the Dook stuff those pitches, etc.
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We definitely did not block as well as we should have...and PJ said Dwyer should have had over 200 yards.

However....

They made sacrifices to stop the outside option...and that was over utilizing their safeties and LB's which left their CB's in man coverage.

Unless Paul Johnson forgets how to read defensive coverage and make adjustments...which should be ok.
 
the option worked exactly right.

we forced them to concentrate on one aspect and then took advantage of the resulting mismatch. the reason you keep running the play that seems like it is doing no good is to keep them in the same alignment, or if you see that they have tried to adjust for the other scenario (dive).

this IS the TO
 
I am confused, GTL. You say the option did not work...but by Duke selling out to stop the run, that left Thomas open for 200+ yards. By Duke limiting the outside toss, Dwyer had 100+ yards. So if you say our option did not work in a game where we got 100+ yards from our BBack and 200+ yards from a WR, well, I will take a "not working option" every day of the week.
 
Our starting QB did not play.

We would have put up 17 in the first half with Nesbitt.
 
Duke is not a bad college football team and you can give their coaches credit for having a decent defensive strategy for the game. We should appreciate the job CPJ did with the TO, overcoming a good defensive effort and completely dominating the game. I expect other teams to do an even better job of defending parts of our offense, but the beauty of this offense is the ability to use misdirection to counter whatever the defense tries. Unlike previous years, we will not be outcoached and we will wear down defenses. Eventually, someone misses an assignment or misses a tackle. We use too much of the field for defenses to contain us consistently.
 
The thing that really excites me is a quote from CPJ's call in show last week. He stated that we are night and day from Spring practice to now, and that we are night and day from now until what we will be able to do by the end of the season. He also said earlier in the season that we will only be installing about 60% of the offense this season.
 
TechFan4Life said:
So if Duke was familiar with our offense from the Navy game, what happens next year when everyone is familiar with our offense? I think we'll be okay, but yeah... I couldn't help but think that while watching the Dook stuff those pitches, etc.
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I thought about this but then I thought: Georgia Southern went to the championship game one year with this offense under PJ, and came up short. The next year they got there and won it. Surely by now the opposition was familiar with the offense. Didn't stop PJ and Ga Southern from winning again the next year. It's a fun offense and it's something different for defenses and it's an advantage for us when we can't necessarily always get the players we need to compete at the highest level running a pro-style type offense. But it's like anything else, really. People will work very hard to stop it, which will require us to execute it at a high level, make adjustments, and show some variety at times. Duke game was an example of this at work. We won 27-0. We won't win them all, but we'll have a better chance with PJ and his offense.
 
Nesbit would have dominated Dook.

But I will say that if we have some turnover we can very easily lose (VT game).
 
The same things happened to GSU from time to time. It works, it will not be stopped (in all phases) and the last thing we should do is worry as long as CPJ is still with us (which should be for at LEAST 5 years based on his history.)
 
In addition to giving up the dive option w/Dwyer to the tune of 159 yards, Duke also wasn't too concerned w/Shaw keeping the ball. They blew up the pitch a few times as they overplayed it quite a bit. Gotta think that w/Nesbitt, he would have broken off some long runs given his speed and athletic advantage over Shaw (who is quite a capable backup).
 
Duke took away the outside pitch and the QB keeper for the most part. They did a great job with that, defending the corner extremely well.

They did not tackle Dwyer well, the first option, which worked quite well. And, they kept corners and safeties so focused on the option they did not cober our best receiver all day.

I'd say Duke did well to take away two things we want to do. But, I'd say we did great by adjusting and taking what they would give us.
 
Geeteelee, what do you think the option is? When they focus on shutting down the outside, you got the option to go inside, which is what we did. You can't stop it, only hope to contain it.
 
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