CPJ Revisionist History Thread (wip)

ramblinwise1 said:
Thank gawd for Miss St. We'll always have that one over Miss St.!
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I don't get this. When we beat a 'big name' team it means nothing because they're having a down year (USC, eg). When we beat a team that's playing great it means nothing because they're not a 'big name.' By mid-November that Miss St. team had been ranked #1 for five straight weeks and had beaten three Top 10 teams. At the end of the season they lost a squeaker to #4 Alabama, and tripped up in the Egg Bowl. They were a dang good team, and we beat them pretty soundly.
 
18in32 said:
I don't get this. When we beat a 'big name' team it means nothing because they're having a down year (USC, eg). When we beat a team that's playing great it means nothing because they're not a 'big name.' By mid-November that Miss St. team had been ranked #1 for five straight weeks and had beaten three Top 10 teams. At the end of the season they lost a squeaker to #4 Alabama, and tripped up in the Egg Bowl. They were a dang good team, and we beat them pretty soundly.
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Sorry you don't get it. They were a sham exposed at the end of the season by quite a few busts. And they didn't even practice assignment defense without the ball for the bowl game! We did play well though.
 
Actually, I disagree. It's easier to swallow the 51-7, 42-10 & 38-7 losses, especially when we knew they were coming, than the close losses or blown game (ahead 20-0, only to lose in OT).
 
miles44 said:
Actually, I disagree. It's easier to swallow the 51-7, 42-10 & 38-7 losses, especially when we knew they were coming, than the close losses or blown game (ahead 20-0, only to lose in OT).
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Yeah, I can't get on board with this. I'd rather be frustrated by a close loss than humiliated by a blowout. That's the kind of thing that makes people want to fire a coach.
 
18in32 said:
I don't get this. When we beat a 'big name' team it means nothing because they're having a down year (USC, eg). When we beat a team that's playing great it means nothing because they're not a 'big name.' By mid-November that Miss St. team had been ranked #1 for five straight weeks and had beaten three Top 10 teams. At the end of the season they lost a squeaker to #4 Alabama, and tripped up in the Egg Bowl. They were a dang good team, and we beat them pretty soundly.
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18in32 said:
I don't get this. When we beat a 'big name' team it means nothing because they're having a down year (USC, eg). When we beat a team that's playing great it means nothing because they're not a 'big name.' By mid-November that Miss St. team had been ranked #1 for five straight weeks and had beaten three Top 10 teams. At the end of the season they lost a squeaker to #4 Alabama, and tripped up in the Egg Bowl. They were a dang good team, and we beat them pretty soundly.
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That was a great win for us, capping a pretty good year overall. Dak Prescott played well, but we contained him most of the game. Their late season collapse took the wind out of their sails, especially the loss to Ole Miss. Instead of playing in the SECCG or the playoffs, they ended up drawing quirky Georgia Tech. Their defensive coordinator left in a freaky lateral move to Florida before the bowl game. The planets aligned for us and we played very well and won decidedly. What wasn't so great was we failed to build on that win, coming out in 2015 and winning three games.
 
miles44 said:
Actually, I disagree. It's easier to swallow the 51-7, 42-10 & 38-7 losses, especially when we knew they were coming, than the close losses or blown game (ahead 20-0, only to lose in OT).
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Thoroughly agree, but guess what? Even after a 51-7 loss, they didn't take away my birthday. Eventually the wheel spun around to a day when we tied it up with a 53 yard field goal as time expired.
 
johncu said:
Yeah, I can't get on board with this. I'd rather be frustrated by a close loss than humiliated by a blowout. That's the kind of thing that makes people want to fire a coach.
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He's also overlooking the fact that not all close losses are created equal. Having a big lead which you blow in OT, is horrible. Being ranked and favored over your unranked rival but losing anyhow, is horrible. But those are much, much worse than (for example) 2010, where we weren't expected to win but played them super-close all game long, then missed a PAT at the end of the game and lost. As much as you can after any loss, we could hold our heads high after that one.
 
18in32 said:
He's also overlooking the fact that not all close losses are created equal. Having a big lead which you blow in OT, is horrible. Being ranked and favored over your unranked rival but losing anyhow, is horrible. But those are much, much worse than (for example) 2010, where we weren't expected to win but played them super-close all game long, then missed a PAT at the end of the game and lost. As much as you can after any loss, we could hold our heads high after that one.
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We didn't lose in 2010 because of a missed PAT. We lost because we fumbled in the red zone (might have even been twice). We out up over 400 yards that day.
 
Ceiling Cat said:
We didn't lose in 2010 because of a missed PAT. We lost because we fumbled in the red zone (might have even been twice). We out up over 400 yards that day.
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This would be a great topic for an etiology class.
 
Yukonwreck said:
That was a great win for us, capping a pretty good year overall.
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That year we finished #7 in the nation and beat two top ten teams, one of which was our arch rival (U[sic]GA). If that only qualifies as a "pretty good year" to you, I'm afraid you're rooting for the wrong program.

There are only a very small handful of programs where that doesn't qualify as an excellent year -- pretty much only Bama and Clemson.
 
johncu said:
Yeah, I can't get on board with this. I'd rather be frustrated by a close loss than humiliated by a blowout.
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Emotionally, as a fan, I find it easier to get over losses where we never had a chance (a la Clemson this year) than I do close losses where you can "woulda, coulda, shoulda" and point to one or two plays that were the difference (a la USF, Pitt, and Duke this year). The 51-7 loss to U[sic]GA never crosses my mind, but I still get sick when I think about the pass interference call in 1997.

JRjr
 
Yukonwreck said:
That was a great win for us, capping a pretty good year overall. Dak Prescott played well, but we contained him most of the game. Their late season collapse took the wind out of their sails, especially the loss to Ole Miss. Instead of playing in the SECCG or the playoffs, they ended up drawing quirky Georgia Tech. Their defensive coordinator left in a freaky lateral move to Florida before the bowl game. The planets aligned for us and we played very well and won decidedly. What wasn't so great was we failed to build on that win, coming out in 2015 and winning three games.
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Yukonwreck said:
Thoroughly agree, but guess what? Even after a 51-7 loss, they didn't take away my birthday. Eventually the wheel spun around to a day when we tied it up with a 53 yard field goal as time expired.
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Most of us lost the "hate" part of our love-hate relationship we all had with the Institute as students when we got out.

You seem to have morphed it into a love-hate of GT football. Applying that engineer's need to balance the system to something as emotional as being a fan of a sports team consisting of student athletes can do nothing but make you a miserable SOB.

2015 was the lowest of lows since B*** L**** and it sucked. 2014 was the best year since 1990. 1990 was the best year since Dodd. Nobody but Dodd ever had back to back incredible seasons. The environment that Dodd had when he coached is never coming back.

The reason I go to the games is that my emotional responses to the game are heightened - in both directions based on the outcome. Emotions, not logic. Every other fanbase reacts emotionally, why would you not allow GT's ( and yourself) the same experience?

It is clear to me that you still love GT football, but why do you hate it so much as well?
 
vapspwi said:
Emotionally, as a fan, I find it easier to get over losses where we never had a chance (a la Clemson this year) than I do close losses where you can "woulda, coulda, shoulda" and point to one or two plays that were the difference (a la USF, Pitt, and Duke this year). The 51-7 loss to U[sic]GA never crosses my mind, but I still get sick when I think about the pass interference call in 1997.

JRjr
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I only get sick thinking about BeBe's drop.
 
Yukonwreck said:
I thought it was because of calculus and the Board of Regents.
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Lol

I was curious so I just looked at the play by play, here are the ends of drives that had a large impact:
1st drive: turnover on downs on a 4th and 2 at uga 19
2nd drive: fumble on uga 5
2nd half, we punt recover a uga fumble, only to make it to the uga 13 to fumble again.
End of 3rd: fumble for uga touchdown return

You can easily say that's at least 9 points left on the board. In another sense it's a 24 point difference. The game shouldn't have been close.
 
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