Depth Chart of PJ's offense.

He said he knew from painful personal experience that the D will cheat over to the wide side and you will get burned with the same play to the short side.
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I have wet dreams about repeatedly running the weak side triple option out of the I formation vs UVA in 1998. It just kept working, over and over.

I agree on the recruiting angle as well. The simple fact is that everyone's competing for Pro Set archetypes. That's what the recruiting 'stars' are based on, and it's what everyone competes over, and that forces lots of really great offensive talent to the defensive side of the ball in the transition from high school to NCAA. We get to use these guys where they want to play, which gives us a competitive advantage in recruiting ATH style players.
 
BarrelORum said:
FB/RB: 1.) Dwyer 2.) Quincy Kelly, 3.) Trevor Bray
SB left: 1.) Jamaal Evans 2.) Dwyer 3.) Peeples
SB right: 1.) Roddy Jones 2.) Dwyer
Discuss....
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Noone is gonna play B-Back and SB. Kids will play one or the other.

Correy Earls would make a good SB.
 
77GTFan said:
I have real questions about Nesbitt at QB. If our QB is under center running this offense, the number 1 need is for him to be a great ballhandler. Number 2 is to make great reads. Putting the ball in the FB's belly and reading before deciding whether or not to pull it out or hand it off is an amazing skill. Then, reading an end and deciding to keep or pitch and making that pitch correctly is equally difficult. Nesbitt did not look like he handled the ball well at all to me this year.

If he does not work out at QB, I think he would be a great slotback, including some pass option plays.

Does anyone think Manley will be a possible darkhorse to "get" this offense and be a contender for playing time?
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I just believe that CPJ is the most adept developer of an option QB the world has ever seen. He's had great athletes run (GSU) it and had not so great athletes run it (Navy) and both have had great success (more at GSU). He had 3 different QB's in three years at Navy and similar situations at GSU and barely missed a beat (maybe half a beat) with each change. All that is to make the point that he can develop Josh Nesbitt, with the athletic tools he has (and he isn't an intellectual slouch --> he passed his freshman year at GT), into a great option QB without a doubt.

The reason is because they rep it a "zillion" times at every practice. It becomes less mental and more mechanical.
 
77GTFan said:
Does anyone think Manley will be a possible darkhorse to "get" this offense and be a contender for playing time?
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Manley won't be coming back to play at all next year. I heard that Gailey sat him down before the end of this season and told him he should not expect his scholly for his 5th year. I was somewhat shocked to hear that Gailey did this, but he honored 4 years and Manley never did more than hold a clip board. But Manley is going to be a regular student next year.
 
Bunger Henry said:
You want to avoid negative yardage plays. How better to do that than not to start the play 7 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage?
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Obviously you don't watch a lot of football to think that the shotgun is run 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
 
GoldenTornado said:
Noone is gonna play B-Back and SB. Kids will play one or the other.

Correy Earls would make a good SB.
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Bullsh*t they won't. You don't think in short and goal situations that Dwyer might appear as a SB with Kelly or Bray at the RB/FB position? I guarantee it.
 
Has anyone every played both SB and BB for PJ before? I don't know, I'm asking.

Do note, SBs and BBs have two different position coaches.
 
I agree with BOR on this one. Dwyer is a very very good candidate to play both positions. And why not? We are realtively thin (or young and undeveloped) at RB next year, a key position for the WTF O. Dwyer could do either.

Additionally, why not dangle a carrot for future star runningbacks by showing that they'll get reps in both methods of running, methods needed for development for the NFL. It can't hurt.
 
beej67 said:
Has anyone every played both SB and BB for PJ before? I don't know, I'm asking.

Do note, SBs and BBs have two different position coaches.
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I want to say that Adrian Peterson did, but I could be wrong. I do know that he was used both as an inside and outside runner, but that could've both been from the B-back position. I definitely see Dwyer as a potential A.Peterson type player in this offense, which is awesome because it gives you so much more versatility and keeps defenses from being able to key one player to one play.
 
BarrelORum said:
Bullsh*t they won't. You don't think in short and goal situations that Dwyer might appear as a SB with Kelly or Bray at the RB/FB position? I guarantee it.
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No, I don't think so. Especially not this year when it will be all the players can do to get the fundamentals of the basic offense down.

I can definitely see Dwyer getting outside carries from the BB position, but no way he is a BB/SB. He will be one or the other.

B-Backs and SB's have different position coaches and they work on different drills. The B-Backs spend a huge portion of their time in practice working on the fullback dive exchange with the QB. That's why they have only one position coach.

A major point of CPJ's offense is that it is a single very versatile formation that you don't have to change very much. You'll be in the standard Wreckbone most of the time and the only common variant is to load one side with both slotbacks.

Every player is great at a few specific things from one specific position, rather than just trying to be competent at everything. Moreover everyone but the B-Back and QB can play on either side, because of offensive symmetry.

That's another reason the offense eschews the TE/FB/H-Back positions. This means if you're Quincy Kelly or Trevor Bray you don't have to worry about playing H-back, I-fullback, and being a shotgun split-back in different kinds of sets. You are a B-Back and on 80-90% of plays you either tote the rock between the tackles or you pretend to tote it to draw the linebackers away from the outside. You're almost always the lone back behind a QB under center. You take your reps at that position and you don't mess around with trying to be a TE half the time.
 
AP only played the FB position at GSU, but PJ has plays in the playbook where the FB is the pitch man. This gives the FB a chance to run to the outside.
 
I think that huh was implying the question, "where the heck did you get that information?" since no one has heard or written anything about it.
 
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