Eric Ciano leaving probably a good thing

[JacketDan]

Michael Johnson before Ciano:

Michael Johnson after Ciano:

Ciano was good for Tech, that's for damn sure

Mass != Strength

I will always bitch about that picture, because under no circumstance ever should football players be doing curls.

They are a meaningless pretty boy isolation exercise.

 

[StingThing]

Mass != Strength

I will always bitch about that picture, because under no circumstance ever should football players be doing curls.

They are a meaningless pretty boy isolation exercise.

I think MJ was posing for the AJC camera.....

 

[JacketDan]

I think MJ was posing for the AJC camera.....

Maybe, but I've seen too many look like Tarzan, hit like Jane players during the Ciano era to fully believe that.

Plus we are typically severely lacking in wind at the end of games.

 

[beej67]

I thought Ciano was good. But after seeing what LSU and Iowa did to our line in bowl games, I think we can upgrade. I wonder if D Rad knows the LSU's S&C coaches number.

I think our problem with our O line wasn't coaching, it was DNA.

 

[StingThing]

I think our problem with our O line wasn't coaching, it was DNA.

Dang it! Who's the best DNA coach available?

 

[BuzzCzar]

Re: Have you liked anything about GT football

who is 56jacket?

"You could see Nate had the experience. He weighs 260 pounds and can run 40 yards in 4.6 seconds. That's a big man to be doing that. He can help us now on special teams, not only with his athletic ability but with his aggressive mindset." - LB Coach Jeff Fitzgerald on drafting Stimson

Nate Stimson

Hometown:
West Palm Beach, Fla.

High School:
Wellington H.S.

Height / Weight:
6-2 / 251

Position:
Defensive End

Birthdate:
03/04/1976

DRAFTED BY WASHINGTON REDSKINS (4-12)

AT TECH: Versatile defensive lineman who has played every positon on the front line and started at defensive end as a senior . . . Somewhat undersized but has good quickness and strength.

1998: Enjoyed an outstanding season at defensive end . . . Collected 6.5 quarterbacks sacks, helping Tech rank second in the ACC . . . Also had five tackles for loss . . . Made 53 tackles on the season . . . Caused four fumbles and recovered one . . . Turned in two crucial defensive plays in Tech's win over sixth-ranked Virginia and was named ACC Defensive Lineman of the Week . . . With Tech trailing 38-17 late in the third quarter and Virignia at the Tech 42-yard line, Stimson sacked quarterback Aaron Brooks and forced a fumble at the Virginia 34-yard line, which Tech's Delaunta Cameron returned for a touchdown to begin the Jackets' comeback . . . After Tech took a 41-38 lead, he helped prevent a score on Virginia's final drive . . . On third-and-11 at the Tech 25-yard line, he wrapped up Brooks with what would have been a sack, but Brooks drew an intentional grounding penalty that moved the Cavs back to the 37-yard line . . . Finished with eight tackles, two sacks for 30 yards and one tackle for loss in the game . . . Added two sacks the following week against Florida State . . . Had a career-high nine tackles against Georgia . . . Made a critical play in Tech's Gator Bowl win over Notre Dame by sacking Irish quarterback Jarious Jackson and causing him to fumble on Notre Dame's last possession.
Reserve in 1997 . . . Played in nine games in 1996 as a reserve defensive tackle and totalled 13 tackles with two tackles for loss and one sack . . . Made two tackles, including one for a one-yard loss, against North Carolina . . . Had three tackles against Duke . . . Sacked Florida State quarterback Dan Kendra for a 12-yard loss . . . Moved to the defensive front from inside linebacker in the spring of 1996 . . . Enrolled at Tech in the fall of 1995 after transferring from Miami (Fla.) . . . Practiced with the scout team in 1995 while sitting out in accordance with NCAA rules . . . Played one year (1994) at Miami as a linebacker but did not letter.

HIGH SCHOOL: Prep all-America by SuperPrep, which rated him the 12th-best player in Florida . . . First-team 5A all-state selection and District MVP . . . Defensive Player of the Year by the Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel and a member of the Palm Beach Post Super 11 . . . Made 119 tackles (81 solo), eight sacks, two interceptions and four fumble recoveries as a senior . . . Set school records for career tackles (328) and single-season tackles (138 as a junior, including 87 solo) . . . Returned three interceptions for touchdowns, travelling 89, 76 and 60 yards . . . Second-team all-area and first-team all-conference by the Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post as a junior . . . Three-year letterwinner for coach Matt Dillon at Wellington High . . . Also lettered once in weightlifting . . . High school teammate of Conrad Andrzejewski.

PERSONAL: Full name is Nathan Karl Stimson . . . Parents are Denise and Carl Stimson and Peter Orwig . . . Born March 4, 1976 . . . Majoring in Management.

LINK: game-by-game statistics

CAREER HIGHS
Tackles: 9 vs. Georgia, 1998
TFL: 1 vs. seven teams
Sck: 2 vs. Virginia, 1998; vs. Florida State, 1998
FC: 1 vs. four teams, 1998
FR: 1 vs. NC State, 1998
PB: 1 vs. New Mexico State, 1998; vs. Clemson, 1998
PR: 2 vs. NC State, 1998

 

[yellowphysics]

Re: Have you liked anything about GT football

My reaction was, "Why do we always wait till someone shafts us until we talk **** about them?"

To be fair, people were complaining about our S&C and Ciano after the Clemson and Miami games last year where we looked dog tired and the opposing players did not. Perhaps just b/c of the scheduling, but I'm not quite so sure that excuses the Clemson game.

 

[ahsoisee]

Weight Training

Huge muscles do not always equate with effectiveness.

The picture shown of Michael Johnson looks good, but there could be some negatives with these muscles. If he hits someone head on, he has the benefit of the situation, however, if he has to show agility to get to the runner or passer, his muscles could impede his ability to get there.

A Wide Receiver needs smooth strides and a soft touch in receiving a pass; he cannot have bricks for hands or a choppy gait in his efforts to reach a pass intended for him.

Back in the early fifties, especially in the smaller schools, there were only a couple of coaches for the whole school athletic program (?). Mostly there were two coaches who were the football coaches.

They coached football and then one of them would coach the basketball team. Either the same assistant would coach the baseball team or maybe the head football coach would have to coach it. Between the two, they also had to coach the Track team.

If the school had a football team, it was the most important of the sports, so the other sports received much less than stellar coaching for these other sports. Also, many of the football players, were also the basketball players, baseball players, and on the Track team.

When you played football, you had to perform exercises that were intended to muscle you up to some degree (although there was no weight training or weight training rooms). It was more like push-ups, chin-ups, squats without weights, etal.

However, there was a small degree of muscle build-up during the football season. Here comes the negative part of the weight training.

During the football season, the gain in muscle tended to help in most circumstances. The relatively small gain in muscles made them tighter and your movements became less agile and more choppy. When you switched over to basketball, your movements and shots were choppy and not smooth.

It generally took at least a month before the exercises for running up and down the court began to smooth out the muscles and make them longer and less choppy.

The example here is that all athletes at all positions of football, baseball, and basketball must have weight training individualized for their particular sport and position on a team.

Too much muscle mass can be a negative for some positions. For those who have to run a lot in the open (Wide Receivers), too much muscle mass can slow him down and cause him to be erratic in his moves (not smooth).

For a defensive end, too much muscle mass can cause the DE to lose some agility in getting around a blocker. He may be effective in running over a blocker, but his speed will suffer a little, because of the muscle mass.

Generally, if defensive players are slow getting to the ball, it is an indication that the muscle mass is to great and is slowing them down.

I believe it is good to have some weight conditioning, but I also believe it is a negative to overdo the training. I also believe a great trainer will individualize the training for each athlete and his position.

Speed is one of the greatest assets of a football player. You need the strength to make the tackle when the speed gets you into his path, but you need the speed to get there. It is imperative that too much muscles mass is avoided for most of the players.

I can see the DTs having more muslce because their running activity is minimum. Also, some of the offensive linemen can bulk up because their running is at a minimum. Anyone that needs speed had better be careful about too much muscle mass.

Maybe Ciano individualized the training to each players best efficiency, but maybe he did not. Some have suggested our players missed many tackles by being out of position and seemed to tire easily. This could have been due to too much muscle mass which will tire you out while running and can cut down on your speed to get to runner.

Whether we want it or not, it is time to throw the dice and see how the dots read!

Father Time

 

[Ish]

Re: Have you liked anything about GT football

To be fair, people were complaining about our S&C and Ciano after the Clemson and Miami games last year where we looked dog tired and the opposing players did not. Perhaps just b/c of the scheduling, but I'm not quite so sure that excuses the Clemson game.

That's a function of a lack of quality depth more than strength and conditioning.

 

[WracerX]

I think our problem with our O line wasn't coaching, it was DNA.

I agree in part. But it seems like the most common description of our linebackers and DL has been "undersized". Ciano did great with bulking up receivers (Calvin, BeBe) and with running backs (Daniels, Dwyer). But he never seemed to turn our linemen into beasts that other teams developed.

 

[JOJATK]

Re: Have you liked anything about GT football

My reaction was, "Why do we always wait till someone shafts us until we talk **** about them?"

Actually I distinctly recall 56 mentioning displeasure with our conditioning on more than one occasion over the last couple of years.

 

[JacketFanForLife]

I think we get an upgrade here. I was tired of seeing out of shape linemen with no muscle tone and getting pushed around.... I never thought CIano was doing good things


So long Eric...welcome to the NFL where you tell the mwhat to do and they might do it if they feel like it!!!

Ciano workout class #1 student

 

[floridajacket]

Re: Have you liked anything about GT football

Actually I distinctly recall 56 mentioning displeasure with our conditioning on more than one occasion over the last couple of years.

He was particularly vocal about the Miami game, which I kind of agree with him. Miami's gameplan was basically to run Derrick Morgan all over the field, but a few long plays shouldn't have winded him that much.

And again, I brought this up with Giff, I kind of question Chan's hiring decisions. He must have a wealth of contacts with NFL positions, why is he going after college assistants? The pay is much higher at all levels in the NFL and so is the expertise necessary. I just can't see Giff doing well with his college experience coaching LB's against pro offenses.

 

[griswold6571]

have things gotten better or worse last 2 years?

 

[LegendaryGT]

We did not need to necro any threads. The meltdown is already retarded enough.