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Our so called pro style offense last year threw 10 touchdowns. Paul johnson and his boys at navy threw 9. I found that very intersting.
 
Our so called pro style offense last year threw 10 touchdowns. Paul johnson and his boys at navy threw 9. I found that very intersting.
You can add a couple to that number per year while he is at the flats!!
 
not surprising. I think people really downplayed just how weak our offense was.
 
Navy also had around 53 rushing touchdowns. Tech had 28. Anyone remember that navy vs north texas game last year? Navy won 74 to 62. Navy had somewhere around 550 yards rushing. Those are some crazy numbers. I also remember watching navy beat notre dame last year. No matter what notre dame is never supposed to lose to navy. Down year or not look at the diffrence in players on the navy roster and look at the notre dame roster. Guess all those 5 star high school players didnt work out to great that game. This is some proof that coaching is way more important than getting 4 and 5 star players.
 
Navy also had around 53 rushing touchdowns. Tech had 28. Anyone remember that navy vs north texas game last year? Navy won 74 to 62. Navy had somewhere around 550 yards rushing. Those are some crazy numbers. I also remember watching navy beat notre dame last year. No matter what notre dame is never supposed to lose to navy. Down year or not look at the diffrence in players on the navy roster and look at the notre dame roster. Guess all those 5 star high school players didnt work out to great that game. This is some proof that coaching is way more important than getting 4 and 5 star players.
But getting 4 and 5 star players never hurts:biggthumpup:
 
That's what I don't get about the prognostications that we will have a bad season this year due to the offensive transition.

We have been winning 7 games a year with no offense. Since our D is at least as good as it has been recently, even if our offense is terrible we should still stand a fair chance at winning 8 or 7 games.

Any improvement in scoring or possession time should put us in a position to improve on the 7ish win mark.

We'll see but the 2-3 win predictions just don't add up for me.
 
Thank you. It's not like we've scrapped a juggernaut for a VW. Our offense has been sputtering for 6 years. We'll be fine.
 
agreed..I remember posting on the Hive about our lack of a passing game but everyone said we would be fine:( I think this year we will be o.k. with a couple of big surprises-
 
That's what I don't get about the prognostications that we will have a bad season this year due to the offensive transition.

We have been winning 7 games a year with no offense. Since our D is at least as good as it has been recently, even if our offense is terrible we should still stand a fair chance at winning 8 or 7 games.

Any improvement in scoring or possession time should put us in a position to improve on the 7ish win mark.

We'll see but the 2-3 win predictions just don't add up for me.

I think what it is, people associate new coach with few wins automatically. People forget though, coaches usually take over teams that are disasters. Our team wasn't a disaster though, really just needed a tune up IMO. Huge difference. I c 7 wins at worst.
 
That's what I don't get about the prognostications that we will have a bad season this year due to the offensive transition.

We have been winning 7 games a year with no offense. Since our D is at least as good as it has been recently, even if our offense is terrible we should still stand a fair chance at winning 8 or 7 games.

Any improvement in scoring or possession time should put us in a position to improve on the 7ish win mark.

We'll see but the 2-3 win predictions just don't add up for me.
I was thinking the same thing the other day when I heard a prediction on the radio that it "isn't going to be pretty" for us this year. Yeah, there's a learning curve, but the people that will be learning the offense are really young and it's not like they're trying to erase an entire career's worth of learned offense.

If the situation were different, I'd say I was worried about whether we'd be going to a bowl game this year, but I'm not at all.
 
I'm expecting steady improvement week to week and to win the games we're favored. Anything above that is gravy.
 
That's what I don't get about the prognostications that we will have a bad season this year due to the offensive transition.

We have been winning 7 games a year with no offense. Since our D is at least as good as it has been recently, even if our offense is terrible we should still stand a fair chance at winning 8 or 7 games.

Any improvement in scoring or possession time should put us in a position to improve on the 7ish win mark.

We'll see but the 2-3 win predictions just don't add up for me.

To say our D is at least as good as it has been is completely unwarranted, imho. I hope it's true, and if it is, then I like our chances. But, there's no way to know what we've got on D yet. What we do know is that we lost a top notch coordinator (according to anybody that knows football). Wommack while he should get the benefit of the doubt for a couple of years is an unkown at this point. About all we can say is that our D-Line looks to be good, that's about it. It takes time to learn to play in a new defensive system as well. Tenuta's first year was significantly worse than the last 5. That's really where my questions about this year and the future lie more than anything else. If we still had Tenuta, I'd be feeling very comfortable about this year and very confident about the future. As it is, I'm not so much comfortable and confident as I am very optimistic.
 
Wommack is an unknown only to people who havne't followed football closely. His defenses at Sou Miss were very good, at least on a par with the statistical level of Tenuta's. Our DL will be very good, our DBs will be at least as good as last year IMO, and our LBs show potential. Plus Wommack actually changes his defenses to take advantage of the offense instead of running the same blitzes over and over again. I'm not worried about the defensive side of the ball, and I think our O will be at least as productive as last season.
 
Wommack is an unknown only to people who havne't followed football closely. His defenses at Sou Miss were very good, at least on a par with the statistical level of Tenuta's. Our DL will be very good, our DBs will be at least as good as last year IMO, and our LBs show potential. Plus Wommack actually changes his defenses to take advantage of the offense instead of running the same blitzes over and over again. I'm not worried about the defensive side of the ball, and I think our O will be at least as productive as last season.

And his defenses at Arkansas were very bad. I've heard there are good reasons for this, but still it makes for a HUGE unknown (I guess I haven't followed football closely ;)). I like our personnell - I think they all have the potential to be great players. Then again, I liked our personnell during some of the horrible defensive years under O-Leary/Roof as well. Those same blitzes over and over led the nation in sacks last year and have always been great at stuffing even the best running games (with a couple of exceptions). They weren't the same blitzes over and over just like CPJ doesn't run the same play over and over (option). It may look the same to a casual observer but there were all kinds of variations to take advantage of (confuse) different offenses.
 
But no matter what, we always blitzed. The only question was who was coming, so yes, it was the same things over and over (not every play, but limited number of options). Actually the Arkansas defenses weren't bad until late in his stay there and there were reasons for the issues they had. Nutt sacrificed Wommack to save his own neck. But we'll see...I think our D will be fine and the O will be at least as good as last season.
 
But no matter what, we always blitzed. The only question was who was coming, so yes, it was the same things over and over (not every play, but limited number of options). Actually the Arkansas defenses weren't bad until late in his stay there and there were reasons for the issues they had. Nutt sacrificed Wommack to save his own neck. But we'll see...I think our D will be fine and the O will be at least as good as last season.

That's one reason I liked Tenuta's defense. Very similar to CPJ in a few ways:

1.) CPJ 70% option, Tenuta 75% zone blitz: This means we are VERY good at what we do.

2.) Both of their philosophies dictate to the other side of the ball what they can do. It limits them. It says, if you're gonna beat us you'll have to do it left handed and on our terms. We will pick our own weaknesses.

3.) Both are unique, tough to prepare for, and very confusing to defend.

Like I said, Wommack will get the benefit of the doubt from me for 2 years. I hope the changes keep our defense in the upper echelon or make it even better. I'm optimistic and apprehensive about it at the same time. I eagerly await the results. CAN't WAIT!
 
The problem with Tenuta's schemes though is that teams with a QB who was patient and would take the short passes was impossible for us to stop. So when we ran into that (BC for example) we just lost. No adjustments, no alternative plan. That's why he's not like PJ. Johnson will do what it takes to win.
 
The problem with Tenuta's schemes though is that teams with a QB who was patient and would take the short passes was impossible for us to stop. So when we ran into that (BC for example) we just lost. No adjustments, no alternative plan. That's why he's not like PJ. Johnson will do what it takes to win.

Yeah, the holding helped a lot too. And, having any sort of offense would've been nice. But, every team runs into someone they can't stop or have trouble scoring against. Johnson has been held to low scores before. Texas, Ohio State, LSU, USCw have all run into teams that they just couldn't stop on a given night. The key is that you've got to be powerful on both sides of the ball so that when those games happen, one side of the ball can pick up the other and still give you a chance to win. We haven't had that for a loooong time. Here's hoping that's exactly what we get with the CPJ/Wommack combo.
 
The problem with Tenuta's schemes though is that teams with a QB who was patient and would take the short passes was impossible for us to stop. So when we ran into that (BC for example) we just lost. No adjustments, no alternative plan. That's why he's not like PJ. Johnson will do what it takes to win.

I don't think our scheme was the problem against BC nor do I think that Ryan was necessarily being patient. We simply could not break through BC's brick wall of an OL. Whether we blitzed or not - Ryan never got any heat. It was just one of those days where neither scheme nor effort was going to change that.

Oh, and in my prior post I meant to say 'win 6 or 7' not 'win 8 or 7'. A Freudian typo I guess. I don't see us winning 8 under any scenario.
 
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