Fridge would easily win 10 games a year with GT..

First of all, props to Ish or whoever came up with the acronym RHAG for the red-headed afro guy... I just wish we had more opportunities to use it.

The reason Maryland has had better QB play is because Fridge knows how to identify, develop, and improve QBs. Goose wasn't the most talented guy, neither was Shaun Hill who won the Orange Bowl for MD or Sam "Holla-back," or even RHAG, who came all the way from Cali to play for the big guy.

Fridge is a bonafide QB guru, he's just struggled with recruiting recently and did a great job with Vanderlinden's talent his first few years. Ralph helped develop guys like Boomer Esiason & Frank Reich in the 80s at MD, and I bet he'll turn either RHAG or Josh Portis (if he ever plays) into All-ACC QBs.

If we had the Tenuta/Friedgen combination in some form, with Giff Smith handling recruiting, we would compete for ACC championships every year, with our eye toward the NC. Fridge might be better as an OC or a HC/OC like he is now, but he needs someone else to handle recruiting and the defense.
 
Maryland is 10th in the ACC in total offense this year and has had losing records two of the past three seasons.
 
ncjacket said:
Steffy is injured and has been on and off. But when healthy he's a decent QB. His rating this year has been 123.33, which isn't record breaking or anything but easily eclipses Taylor's 104.68 as well as our overall ratings as a team since 2004.

Tech had an efficiency rating of 108.3 in 'o4, 97.94 in '05, 114.9 in '06 and 104.04 so far this year. In that same period MDs have been 105.02, 129.81. 129.17 and 125.82. So yeah, I'd say MDs QBs ARE always more talented than ours, or close enough to accept it as truth.

BTW, the RHC has a 130 rating. That's all conference material when compared to Tech's performances since Goose.
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Quarterback efficiency ratings are a function of way more than just a single person throwing a football. So using them to prove that Maryland's QBs are way better than ours is silly, because Reggie didn't have a competent QB coach AT ALL during his entire 4 year stint here.
 
So using them to prove that Maryland's QBs are way better than ours is silly...
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You seriously think Steffy had better WRs or a better O Line or better run support than Reggie did?
 
Ish said:
Quarterback efficiency ratings are a function of way more than just a single person throwing a football. So using them to prove that Maryland's QBs are way better than ours is silly, because Reggie didn't have a competent QB coach AT ALL during his entire 4 year stint here.
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Well, first of all I didn't say way better, but their results have been better overall. There's no way to argue that point. But you are right in that it's partly a team measure and partly an individual measure, which is why I used the team results not individual QBs. There's simply no way you can make a reasonable argument that our QB performance over the last 4 years has been better than MDs.
 
beej67 said:
You seriously think Steffy had better WRs or a better O Line or better run support than Reggie did?
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No, he's had a better coach and in the college game that is significantly more important than to whom you're throwing the ball.
 
ncjacket said:
Well, first of all I didn't say way better, but their results have been better overall. There's no way to argue that point. But you are right in that it's partly a team measure and partly an individual measure, which is why I used the team results not individual QBs. There's simply no way you can make a reasonable argument that our QB performance over the last 4 years has been better than MDs.
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Nobody said our QBs were better than MDs. The original statement was that Fridge has had better QBs to work with than us.

They've been adequate at worst; at best they've been slightly better. In any case, neither statement disproves the original poster's point.
 
Ralph is #103 in the country in total offense and #82 in scoring offense.

We are #58 in total offense and #55 in scoring offense.

Tell me again how this equals superior performance?
 
ncjacket said:
So who is talking about this year alone?
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Last year Ralph was #88 in Total Offense and #74 in scoring offense.

We were #67 in Total Offense and #54 in scoring offense.

We are getting better and Ralph is getting worse.

So how is that superior performance?
 
If you look at the course of Ralph's career he clearly has the ability to develop quality QBs and design a powerful, yet balanced, offense. I think Tech fans, more than anyone else, should know that.

Unless he somehow "forgot" how to coach he would be an awesome OC for us or anyone else. He could be HC, too, if someone handles the D and recruiting.

Our main problem is the lack of ingenuity on offense, either because our coaches don't have the creativity or they don't have the balls to call the plays. I don't think Fridge is lacking in either.
 
beej67 said:
I never said they were good. I just said they were better than ours. Please list how many times each of the above Maryland quarterbacks completed under 33% of their passes and threw 2 picks.

All I said was Hollenbach > RHAG > Steffy > Reggie
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Still waiting on that one. Hell, make it 42% and 1 pick instead of 33% and 2 picks, and Reggie had 3 in his last 4 starts.
 
I dont know if that is true or not but, i would sure like to give it a try.
 
rambleON said:
If you look at the course of Ralph's career he clearly has the ability to develop quality QBs and design a powerful, yet balanced, offense. I think Tech fans, more than anyone else, should know that.
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I love Ralph - he is one of my all-time favorite coaches for GT. Our offense was a thing of beauty under Ralph.

And yet, Ralph's offense at Maryland sucks this year. It sucked last year and he took over personal control of it for the first time since he got to Maryland, and now it sucks even worse.

What this shows is that it takes more than a Big Brain and more than recruiting classes (since Maryland's are more highly rated than ours) to have a successful offense.

Another thing that has been shown over the past few years at Maryland (since O'Brien or whatever his name was left) is that even Ralph cannot conjure a good quarterback out of thin air.

The comments earlier in this thread about Godsey were wrong. Godsey was a special player. He was not a clod transformed to a QB by Ralph's MAJICK. If Ralph had such MAJICK he would be using it right now at Maryland.
 
mm42 said:
I love Ralph - he is one of my all-time favorite coaches for GT. Our offense was a thing of beauty under Ralph.

And yet, Ralph's offense at Maryland sucks this year. It sucked last year and he took over personal control of it for the first time since he got to Maryland, and now it sucks even worse.

What this shows is that it takes more than a Big Brain and more than recruiting classes (since Maryland's are more highly rated than ours) to have a successful offense.

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So, what does it take? What is the missing ingredient other than talent and coaching?
 
I agree with mm42. Again.

So, what does it take? What is the missing ingredient other than talent and coaching?
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Clearly it's SWAGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More to the point, clearly it's a little of A, a little of B, and a little of C, C being something nobody's figured out yet, or else Maryland would have a continual stream of Godseys.

The thing I find funny is that every board in the country is yelling the same thing - OUR TEAM SHOULD BE BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE'S - without understanding that football is a zero sum game. One winner, one loser.

Don't make me break out the Hive's "words to post and live by."
 
lonestarjacket said:
So, what does it take? What is the missing ingredient other than talent and coaching?
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Talent, coaching, and luck.

Godsey is the perfect example. He had Ralph's superb QB coaching and his own innate abilities (talent, smarts, work ethic, grace under pressure, etc.), BUT we were lucky to find him, as he was not a highly prized QB like Tim Tebow or Matthew Stafford. He was a good, solid prospect coming out of high school, but not projected by anyone to be a QB who could set records.

Without luck, extra talent is required (e.g. super blue chip, can't miss talent like Tebow.)
 
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