FSU player on strike for NIL deal?

GTWannaBee said:
If it develops into a minor league, that’s fine, but it should be removed from colleges altogether. If you remove the academic side of the student athlete, then you should also remove the involvement of any university at that point too. As long as there is a university name on the jersey, there should also be academic requirements. That was all I was saying.
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The university is really nothing more than a sponsor of the football team. The way Emirates sponsors Arsenal football, or FedEx sponsors Joe Gibbs Racing and Denny Hamlin in the # 11 car. No difference.
 
1982Jacket said:
The university is really nothing more than a sponsor of the football team. The way Emirates sponsors Arsenal football, or FedEx sponsors Joe Gibbs Racing and Denny Hamlin in the # 11 car. No difference.
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That is false for the vast majority of student athletes - even in football. The vast majority of college football players do actually go to class and do graduate with a degree. Don’t let the 1% cause the “student” to be removed from the equation.
 
GTWannaBee said:
That is false for the vast majority of student athletes - even in football. The vast majority of college football players do actually go to class and do graduate with a degree. Don’t let the 1% cause the “student” to be removed from the equation.
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1) It's not just 1%. NFL drafts at least 224 players every single year. There are 65 schools in P5 (yeah, they draft a few from G5 and even FCS) . . . you do the math and see if that is "1%." And It's probably 90% of recruits to Ugag, Bama, South Carolina Cow College, tOSU, LSU, etc., etc., etc. IOW, all the schools that have a chance to win anything and that anyone gives a öööö about. No high school football recruit is looking at Ol' Miss and saying "I'm going there becuase I'm a student and that's the best education I can get!" LMFAO!

2) No one gives a flying öööö about that one star tackle grinding for that law enforcement degree at Wofford. Few people attend his games. Few people watch them on TV. The sport could not sustain itself at its current interest level and financial level on those guys. It's about championships. And those are won by 4 star and 5 star dudes just putting in the required time before they're eligible for the NFL draft.

3) Yeah, they go to classes. ONLY because current rules require it. Drop that fig leaf and see what happens.

4) If you really believe that öööö then Tech should drop out of FBS and compete against the guys who are "students" looking for an education, rather than hired guns, portal transfers, NIL millionaires, and NFL wannabes masquerading as "students" in home economic and physical education, "majors" at academic powerhouses like UCF, Ugag and Ol' Miss.
 
1982Jacket said:
1) It's not just 1%. NFL drafts at least 224 players every single year. There are 65 schools in P5 (yeah, they draft a few from G5 and even FCS) . . . you do the math and see if that is "1%." And It's probably 90% of recruits to Ugag, Bama, South Carolina Cow College, tOSU, LSU, etc., etc., etc. IOW, all the schools that have a chance to win anything and that anyone gives a öööö about. No high school football recruit is looking at Ol' Miss and saying "I'm going there becuase I'm a student and that's the best education I can get!" LMFAO!

2) No one gives a flying öööö about that one star tackle grinding for that law enforcement degree at Wofford. Few people attend his games. Few people watch them on TV. The sport could not sustain itself at its current interest level and financial level on those guys. It's about championships. And those are won by 4 star and 5 star dudes just putting in the required time before they're eligible for the NFL draft.

3) Yeah, they go to classes. ONLY because current rules require it. Drop that fig leaf and see what happens.

4) If you really believe that öööö then Tech should drop out of FBS and compete against the guys who are "students" looking for an education, rather than hired guns, portal transfers, NIL millionaires, and NFL wannabes masquerading as "students" in home economic and physical education, "majors" at academic powerhouses like UCF, Ugag and Ol' Miss.
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So you’re just going to make up information and cherry-pick? Here are some FACTS:

www.insidehighered.com

NCAA Division I Athletes Maintain High Graduation Rate

Ninety percent of Division I athletes from the National Collegiate Athletic Association graduated within six years of starting college, according to the NCAA’s 2021 report on graduate success rates, or GSR. That remains unchanged from 2020.
www.insidehighered.com www.insidehighered.com

syndication.bleacherreport.com

College Football Schools with the Best and Worst Graduation Rates

When fans around the nation talk about college football, team rankings make up a large portion of the conversation. Where a fan's favorite team lands in the various polls on a weekly basis can be a source of pride or controversy, depending on placement..
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GTWannaBee said:
So you’re just going to make up information and cherry-pick? Here are some FACTS:

www.insidehighered.com

NCAA Division I Athletes Maintain High Graduation Rate

Ninety percent of Division I athletes from the National Collegiate Athletic Association graduated within six years of starting college, according to the NCAA’s 2021 report on graduate success rates, or GSR. That remains unchanged from 2020.
www.insidehighered.com www.insidehighered.com

syndication.bleacherreport.com

College Football Schools with the Best and Worst Graduation Rates

When fans around the nation talk about college football, team rankings make up a large portion of the conversation. Where a fan's favorite team lands in the various polls on a weekly basis can be a source of pride or controversy, depending on placement..
syndication.bleacherreport.com
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What did I make up?
 
gtleviathan said:
Can you imagine that discussion between the player and coach?

Player: Give me a NIL or I don't practice.
Coach: But I can't. Coaches and schools don't give NILs.
Player: Well, then make somebody give me one.
Coach: Ummm, k?
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Except we know this isn't true.

Even before NIL, the coaches were paying players, but indirectly.

I'm not sure why we're pretending this is something new.

I can also bet there were many instances of players threatening not to practice/play or transferring because they felt the financial terms the coaches had agreed to were not being upheld. The only difference is that in those cases it was done quietly because it was illegal, so the player did not make it public.

All NIL is doing is making public some of the stuff that used to happen quietly, because there is no legal consequence to either party for revealing any such verbal arrangement.
 
1982Jacket said:
They really should get rid of all academic requirements, admission, matriculation, classes, grades . . . guys like this who brag that "football is all I know" (and all he'll ever know at FSU) aren't there for a college education anyway.
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That’s prolly coming sooner than later.
 
Acting like a little bitch will definitely make people want to give him more NIL money
 
How bout factor in NIL as payment for tuition. If they make 50k a season on an NIL....tuition comes out of it. Only scholarship student athletes get diplomas?
 
There's going to be a lot more of this. The degree of entitlement these days is off the charts. No one is honest with these kids. They are just told what they want to hear.

College football is being destroyed by legalized money laundering. It's honestly hard to remain a fan when most teams cannot compete.
 
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