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Chan Gailey has had more success in the NFL than Saban.

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The other phenomenon is the use of saban as a career resuscitation stop for failed head coaches. go there, look like a genius because you're able to not lose using excessively unbalanced talent, then go to the next place and gave plant again because you no longer have the overwhelming ta]
Spot on. Every rule in football that is made now favors the offense. Seems a lot of people like the 52-49 games that are commonplace in the Big XII. It is what it is, but I enjoyed it much better when field position and defense did matter.

some of the best and most exciting games I remember were the low scoring games of the black watch defense in the mid 80s
 

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The other phenomenon is the use of saban as a career resuscitation stop for failed head coaches. go there, look like a genius because you're able to not lose using excessively unbalanced talent, then go to the next place and gave plant again because you no longer have the overwhelming ta]



some of the best and most exciting games I remember were the low scoring games of the black watch defense in the mid 80s
But again, so what. The NFL and college football are two different games. Being good at one doesn’t mean you’ll be good at the other. Unless I forgot all of Tebow’s, Frazier’s, Ward’s, and Wuerffel‘s championships. And they were the best college QB’s I’ve ever seen. Same for coaches. And no one is saying Saban would be the GOAT if he were at a GT type school. But, what he has done at Bama is just amazing. If it was so easy at a cheating money spending school then Ryan Day and Kirby would be rolling in rings.
 

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We had crazy-efficient scoring offenses under Paul Johnson and still lost games on account of defense. Maybe defense matters less than it used to, but it still matters a lot.
Defense and the rules of the game that are designed to benefit one side of the ball or the other.
 

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Probably better now that he's widely regarded as the best coach in CFB history. Would help a lot with recruiting.
Yep. Obviously it would never happen, but how Nick Saban would do if coaching at Tech now vs. how he would have done if coaching at Tech *instead* of LSU/Bama would probably look very different.
 

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I wonder sometimes how successful Nick Saban could possibly be at Tech.
I would guess he’d be slightly more successful than Paul Johnson, but less successful than Chan Gailey. Which would mean a total win pct just North of 57%; and an ACC win win pct around 58%
 

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I would guess he’d be slightly more successful than Paul Johnson, but less successful than Chan Gailey. Which would mean a total win pct just North of 57%; and an ACC win win pct around 58%
Which then would raise the question of how Chan would do in Tuscaloosa with Alabama's vast resources at his disposal. He had that 12-1 season at Troy, but that was in D-II, in the early 80's, but was his only remarkable season as a college head coach. Went 7-4 his first and only other year at Troy, then 5-6 in 1993 at Samford before heading back to the NFL. I always liked Chan, but it is hard to understand how the man got the HC gigs he did.
 

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Which then would raise the question of how Chan would do in Tuscaloosa with Alabama's vast resources at his disposal. He had that 12-1 season at Troy, but that was in D-II, in the early 80's, but was his only remarkable season as a college head coach. Went 7-4 his first and only other year at Troy, then 5-6 in 1993 at Samford before heading back to the NFL. I always liked Chan, but it is hard to understand how the man got the HC gigs he did.
Chan never was able to get a pro style QB at GT. We did get Renfree committed, but obviously he went to Duke when Gailey got let go. I was one of the board FOCcers. I thought Gailey did a good job fighting through flunk gate and bringing in hell of good talent....Calvin Johnson, Dwyer, Wheeler, Michael Johnson, Vance Walker, Morgan Burnett, Kenny Scott.... If we stay the course and keep Threet and Renfree, I think we turn the corner with Gailey and are on equal footing with UGAg.
I still believe, unprovable of course, that we were going to beat UGAg in 2008 and 2009 with Gailey as HC. I wish we had beaten UGAg in 2007, but they were a very good football team.

I don't know if Gailey would have dominated like Saban, but at Alabama he would have gotten a lot more talent than he got at GT and would have played for SEC and national titles
 

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Which then would raise the question of how Chan would do in Tuscaloosa with Alabama's vast resources at his disposal. He had that 12-1 season at Troy, but that was in D-II, in the early 80's, but was his only remarkable season as a college head coach. Went 7-4 his first and only other year at Troy, then 5-6 in 1993 at Samford before heading back to the NFL. I always liked Chan, but it is hard to understand how the man got the HC gigs he did.
Other than Buffalo, which head coaching jobs is it hard to see how he got?

Samford hired a guy that won a natty a few miles down the road and had just helped Elways Broncos to 3 Super Bowl trips in 6 years.

Cowboys hired him when we was a hot name, being the Steeler OC when they had Slash and had won 4 straight divisions and been to the Super Bowl.

GT hired a well respected guy with a ton of experience and in state roots; held the top head coaching job in football a few years prior and had coached in 4 Super Bowls in his career.
 

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Other than Buffalo, which head coaching jobs is it hard to see how he got?

Samford hired a guy that won a natty a few miles down the road and had just helped Elways Broncos to 3 Super Bowl trips in 6 years.

Cowboys hired him when we was a hot name, being the Steeler OC when they had Slash and had won 4 straight divisions and been to the Super Bowl.

GT hired a well respected guy with a ton of experience and in state roots; held the top head coaching job in football a few years prior and had coached in 4 Super Bowls in his career.
And was a candidate for the UGAg job before Richt got it
 

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Other than Buffalo, which head coaching jobs is it hard to see how he got?

Samford hired a guy that won a natty a few miles down the road and had just helped Elways Broncos to 3 Super Bowl trips in 6 years.

Cowboys hired him when we was a hot name, being the Steeler OC when they had Slash and had won 4 straight divisions and been to the Super Bowl.

GT hired a well respected guy with a ton of experience and in state roots; held the top head coaching job in football a few years prior and had coached in 4 Super Bowls in his career.
Yeah dude, I understand how the current HC hiring club works. My point is that his only hint of being a good head coach - not a good coordinator or a "hot name" - came at D-II Samford in the early 80's prior to landing the Dallas job.
 

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Yeah dude, I understand how the current HC hiring club works. My point is that his only hint of being a good head coach - not a good coordinator or a "hot name" - came at D-II Samford in the early 80's prior to landing the Dallas job.
I guess I explained things well since your position went from “it’s hard to understand” to “I understand” in 2 posts

Lmk if you need any more assistance with simple logic. Happy to help guys like you
 

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I guess I explained things well since your position went from “it’s hard to understand” to “I understand” in 2 posts

Lmk if you need any more assistance with simple logic. Happy to help guys like you
You get pretty upset when people won't give you the pissing matches you crave.
 
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