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EastboundJacket

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Thanks to Paul for all the memories and the way he represented Tech. He's an honorable man and I have a lot of respect for him.

I've been thinking even before this news about Tech and our relevancy. Regardless of who the next coach is, I think our goal year-in-and-year-out should be: To be better than every team in the ACC in the long run except for Clemson, FSU, and Miami. Explaining this will be really long, so hang with me if you have time.
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Most of you will probably pick me apart for a goal like that ("Be the best damn team period!"), but I'd love for our athletic department to be optimistically realistic. This is neither an outlandish goal nor an unrealistic goal. I think Stansbury is doing a good job and is addressing some of our biggest problems. I hope he'll continue that trend. Think about it...

We should be perennially better than: Duke, UVA, UNC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Louisville, and Boston College. I'd consider these the Tier 3 teams.
We have a good chance, if we run our program to its potential, to be perennially better than: Pitt, NC St., and VT. Pitt is on the rise but not truly on our level. NC St. is in a very similar spot. VT is a strong program but we're historically better, and they don't seem to have the same magic they have had. Tier 2 teams.
We should not be better than Clemson, FSU, or Miami, barring a drastic change in those schools' athletic (and academic) landscape. Miami is easily the least promising team in this tier considering their recent performance, but if they live up to their potential they "should" be better than us. FSU sucks now somehow but they'll be back. Tier 1 teams, obviously.

I get that each college football season contains surprises, but I'm talking about long-term. I'm talking about averages and overall program health-- not just single season outlooks.

So, I think our long-term goal should be to dominate those we have a good chance to be better than. What happens if we do that? Consider the annual scenario. Clemson and FSU cannot both play in the ACCCG so one knocks the other out (and we hardly play FSU). Then, although Miami "should" be better than us, that doesn't mean we can't beat them. If we dominate the rest of the competition, we should have a good chance to make it to the ACCCG any time we beat Miami. I focus here on making it to the ACCCG because I strongly believe the long-term CFB playoff landscape will shift to at least an 8 team scenario with automatic conference champion tie-ins. Working towards conference championships should be our goal.

What do you think?
 
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EffinDane said:
CPJ is 100% right in that the long-term success of the program is depending on the level of investment. Compare our investments to those programs you think we should be dominating.
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But that would require people to buy tickets and contribute money!
 
EffinDane said:
CPJ is 100% right in that the long-term success of the program is depending on the level of investment. Compare our investments to those programs you think we should be dominating.
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You're right. That's why I'm excited to have Todd here. Even CPJ said the last couple of years (essentially) that Todd "gets it". I think we'll be pleased with what we have in the next few years IF we hire correctly.
 
That is already the current expectation. That’s why people on here get so butthurt about losing to Duke, Unc, Uva, Pitt etc.
 
UNC and UVa have recruited ridiculously well so I wouldn't call them Tier 3. They should be better than they are. Duke has done a good job under Cut. BC has always been a tough out. I think the only real Tier 3 teams are Wake and maybe, maybe, Duke. Louisville was terrible this year but they have been good in the past. They did go to the Orange Bowl not that long ago (it may be longer, years are starting to run together).
Syracuse has a good football tradition. They stunk for a while but Babers may have them headed back in the right direction. Will be interesting to see what life after Dungey is like.
 
Is your name Dave Braine?

EastboundJacket said:
Thanks to Paul for all the memories and the way he represented Tech. He's an honorable man and I have a lot of respect for him.

I've been thinking even before this news about Tech and our relevancy. Regardless of who the next coach is, I think our goal year-in-and-year-out should be: To be better than every team in the ACC in the long run except for Clemson, FSU, and Miami. Explaining this will be really long, so hang with me if you have time.
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Most of you will probably pick me apart for a goal like that ("Be the best damn team period!"), but I'd love for our athletic department to be optimistically realistic. This is neither an outlandish goal nor an unrealistic goal. I think Stansbury is doing a good job and is addressing some of our biggest problems. I hope he'll continue that trend. Think about it...

We should be perennially better than: Duke, UVA, UNC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Louisville, and Boston College. I'd consider these the Tier 3 teams.
We have a good chance, if we run our program to its potential, to be perennially better than: Pitt, NC St., and VT. Pitt is on the rise but not truly on our level. NC St. is in a very similar spot. VT is a strong program but we're historically better, and they don't seem to have the same magic they have had. Tier 2 teams.
We should not be better than Clemson, FSU, or Miami, barring a drastic change in those schools' athletic (and academic) landscape. Miami is easily the least promising team in this tier considering their recent performance, but if they live up to their potential they "should" be better than us. FSU sucks now somehow but they'll be back. Tier 1 teams, obviously.

I get that each college football season contains surprises, but I'm talking about long-term. I'm talking about averages and overall program health-- not just single season outlooks.

So, I think our long-term goal should be to dominate those we have a good chance to be better than. What happens if we do that? Consider the annual scenario. Clemson and FSU cannot both play in the ACCCG so one knocks the other out (and we hardly play FSU). Then, although Miami "should" be better than us, that doesn't mean we can't beat them. If we dominate the rest of the competition, we should have a good chance to make it to the ACCCG any time we beat Miami. I focus here on making it to the ACCCG because I strongly believe the long-term CFB playoff landscape will shift to at least an 8 team scenario with automatic conference champion tie-ins. Working towards conference championships should be our goal.

What do you think?
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