Greg Schiano

olgoldandwhite said:
The reason we will not go after Briles:

An institution’s head coach is presumed to be responsible for the actions of all institutional staff members who report, directly or indirectly, to the head coach. An institution’s head coach shall promote an atmosphere of compliance within his or her program and shall monitor the activities of all institutional staff members involved with the program who report, directly or indirectly, to the coach.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/10/2/17925880/ncaa-baylor-allegations
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How is Bud still president?
 
Just now catching up on this.

I'm honestly pretty shocked if anyone seriously thinks Schiano covered up for a boy rapist. I thought that was widely understood to be Vol fans way of putting up a fight against a yankee HC. There's nothing in his background or about his personality that suggests that he would do such a thing. Didn't McQueary say that he once saw Schiano looking physically ill saying he just saw Sandusky with a boy, and he said something? Is it not just a shade unfair to a human, to call him a rapist's cover, without knowing the full story? Or am I again thinking too much of ST's boundaries?

On his football credentials, I can't imagine us doing better, with a more qualified candidate. Yes, we could do younger, we could find that diamond in the rough, home run assistant coach somewhere who is the second coming. While that's possible, can we all just acknowledge that hiring strategy inherently involves a whole lot more risk of a total flop that sets our program back further?

Edit: 2 big crys and a dislike. mkay
 
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THWUGA said:
Just now catching up on this.

I'm honestly pretty shocked if anyone seriously thinks Schiano covered up for a boy rapist. I thought that was widely understood to be Vol fans way of putting up a fight against a yankee HC. There's nothing in his background or about his personality that suggests that he would do such a thing. Didn't McQueary say that he once saw Schiano looking physically ill saying he just saw Sandusky with a boy, and he said something? Is it not just a shade unfair to a human, to call him a rapist's cover, without knowing the full story? Or am I again thinking too much of ST's boundaries?
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To me there is nothing wrong with you looking at it logically like that. The general public's perception is not necessarily logic-minded however, and unfortunately, I don't believe that's something we could just overlook.
 
AugustaJacket said:
To me there is nothing wrong with you looking at it logically like that. The general public's perception is not necessarily logic-minded however, and unfortunately, I don't believe that's something we could just overlook.
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I at least appreciate the honest reply AJ. I'd offer that maybe instead of overlooking it, our guys evaluate it and make a fact-based decision, and communicate it to the fans as such.

There are several experts today on what happened at Penn State, and all of them reported during and after the Vol saga, point blank, that all knowable facts say Schiano was not a part of any cover up. Schiano's coaching circle includes some of the best coaches in the game, all who backed his character and integrity up as well. Belichik doesn't publicly comment on much of anything, he's got no reason to put his neck on the line for Schiano (or send his son to play for him).

I'll let it go, but Schiano took an absolute joke of a program at Rutgers and made it viable while he was there, against all odds. He successfully recruited there, somehow. He coached well in-game. He accomplished all of this while earning high graduation marks for his kids. When he left, the Rutgers ability to compete left. There is nothing about the guy that suggests anything but that he's a decent guy who would be successful again as a HC. I think the next place to give him a shot will have a loyal HC for a while if they want him (remember, he turned down Michigan while at RU). And at a minimum, I think he has the "highest floor" among any candidates we could consider.
 
THWUGA said:
I at least appreciate the honest reply AJ. I'd offer that maybe instead of overlooking it, our guys evaluate it and make a fact-based decision, and communicate it to the fans as such.

There are several experts today on what happened at Penn State, and all of them reported during and after the Vol saga, point blank, that all knowable facts say Schiano was not a part of any cover up. Schiano's coaching circle includes some of the best coaches in the game, all who backed his character and integrity up as well. Belichik doesn't publicly comment on much of anything, he's got no reason to put his neck on the line for Schiano (or send his son to play for him).

I'll let it go, but Schiano took an absolute joke of a program at Rutgers and made it viable while he was there, against all odds. He successfully recruited there, somehow. He coached well in-game. He accomplished all of this while earning high graduation marks for his kids. When he left, the Rutgers ability to compete left. There is nothing about the guy that suggests anything but that he's a decent guy who would be successful again as a HC. I think the next place to give him a shot will have a loyal HC for a while if they want him (remember, he turned down Michigan while at RU). And at a minimum, I think he has the "highest floor" among any candidates we could consider.
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While I grant you Rutgers was atrocious before Schiano, they weren't that great during or afterwards. He coached there for 11 years (longer than I remembered), and peaked in his sixth year (2006) with an 11-2 record. They never won the Big East (not even the 11-2 year), and after that they finished 5th, 2d, 4th, 8th and 4th in the Big East. These are the bowls he coached in: Insight, Texas, International, Papajohns, St. Petersburg, Pinstripe. In 11 years they finished ranked once (the 11-2 year), when they finished #12. He did crush a CPJ-led Navy team that year, 34-0, so there's that.

He took a horrible program and made them mediocre. I really don't have anything against the guy, but I'd rather take a chance on a young coach who hasn't already proven his mediocrity.
 
Who do I have to pay off to get this g d thread off the front page?
 
00Burdell said:
Who do I have to pay off to get this g d thread off the front page?
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If you'd like to wire me $1k I'll start a couple dozen threads on interesting football topics (CCG recruiting vs. CPJ recruiting? "Accepting reality" or "settling for mediocrity"? Wanna buy tickets together for QLB? that kind of thing).
 
For every $100 you wire me, I'll refrain from posting in this thread for an hour.
 
18in32 said:
While I grant you Rutgers was atrocious before Schiano, they weren't that great during or afterwards. He coached there for 11 years (longer than I remembered), and peaked in his sixth year (2006) with an 11-2 record. They never won the Big East (not even the 11-2 year), and after that they finished 5th, 2d, 4th, 8th and 4th in the Big East. These are the bowls he coached in: Insight, Texas, International, Papajohns, St. Petersburg, Pinstripe. In 11 years they finished ranked once (the 11-2 year), when they finished #12. He did crush a CPJ-led Navy team that year, 34-0, so there's that.

He took a horrible program and made them mediocre. I really don't have anything against the guy, but I'd rather take a chance on a young coach who hasn't already proven his mediocrity.
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On the other hand, he was a complete failure with the Buccaneers--but so many coaches are. Totally lost the locker room, allegedly leaked Josh Freeman's drug test results to the media, the bull rush against the Giants' victory formation, and on and on. Today he's getting the blame for Ohio State not making the playoffs. I would personally rather not have him at Tech, but I haven't heard one candidate mentioned that blows my skirt up yet.
 
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