GT #8 in BCS Computer Rankings

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ContactBuzz said:
Not entirely surprising - you get penalized for losses and for all intents and purposes, you don't get penalized for SOS (aside from any bias in the polls)
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Really? I thought the computers considered SOS, which is why Clemson is ranked 2nd.
 
I have to giggle when I hear people getting excited by a poll or computer ranking putting us in the top 10. Until our defense improves SIGNIFICANTLY and our special teams improve DRAMATICALLY, we ARE NOT a top 10 team.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
Until our defense improves SIGNIFICANTLY and our special teams improve DRAMATICALLY, we ARE NOT a top 10 team.
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No. Until somebody can put more points against our not-top-10 defense than our "Whirling Dervish of Death" offense can put up against theirs, we're a top 10 team.
 
gtcompscientist said:
No. Until somebody can put more points against our not-top-10 defense than our "Whirling Dervish of Death" offense can put up against theirs, we're a top 10 team.
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No that means we will "win" as long as that happens, it does mean that we are "top 10".
 
johncu said:
Really? I thought the computers considered SOS, which is why Clemson is ranked 2nd.
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I haven't seen any of the codes for the models, but if they're Bayesian, they'll use SoS directly. If they're built on Markov Chains then they'll indirectly use SoS.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
I have to giggle when I hear people getting excited by a poll or computer ranking putting us in the top 10. Until our defense improves SIGNIFICANTLY and our special teams improve DRAMATICALLY, we ARE NOT a top 10 team.
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what constitutes a top 10 team? every team has flaws. If you get it done and win ball games vs. good teams consistently, your a top ten team.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
I have to giggle when I hear people getting excited by a poll or computer ranking putting us in the top 10. Until our defense improves SIGNIFICANTLY and our special teams improve DRAMATICALLY, we ARE NOT a top 10 team.[/QUOTE

I agree with this. Until defense gets markedly better, we are just a team with a gimmick offense. Not to say, we are not a good team. We are and Johnson gets all he can out of the offense but we cannot be an elite team until defense and special teams are better.
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ramblinwise1 said:
No that means we will "win" as long as that happens, it does mean that we are "top 10".
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Well what matters more, stats saying you're "top 10" or winning ballgames?

It is very possible to be a top 10 team without a shutdown defense. Winning is all that matters.
 
artesian jacket said:
ramblinwise1 said:
I have to giggle when I hear people getting excited by a poll or computer ranking putting us in the top 10. Until our defense improves SIGNIFICANTLY and our special teams improve DRAMATICALLY, we ARE NOT a top 10 team.[/QUOTE

I agree with this. Until defense gets markedly better, we are just a team with a gimmick offense. Not to say, we are not a good team. We are and Johnson gets all he can out of the offense but we cannot be an elite team until defense and special teams are better.
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I agree as well. I have been trying to watch the last few games from a technical perspective, to see what's slipping up, but I don't think I know enough to really diagnose the problem.

Having said that, it seems to me that we have been having some issues with zone coverage and sometimes getting beat on man.
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Sometimes being top 10 just means there are only 9 teams that aren't worse than you.
 
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