GT Bowl Scenarios?

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What does everyone think?
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7-5......Charlotte Bowl or Tangarine Bowl
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8-4......Tangarine Bowl or Peach Bowl
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9-3......Peach Bowl or Gator Bowl
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Will bids go out before UGA game, and if so, does that help or hurt?
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P.S. Why was the Citrus Bowl Rep at the game? Is there a chance that an ACC school could make that bowl?
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I am glad that we are in a position to talk about bowl scenarios! No, my expectations have not been lowered, I just had serious doubts about this season after the second half of the Maryland game. Glad to see the coaches rally the troops and have a good gameplan to put the team in a position to win the last few weeks.

Back to the bowls...

BCS slot: NCSU/FSU winner

Gator: loser of above

Peach: Maryland

Tangerine: GT

Seattle: Wake/Clemson/UVA

Continental Tire Bowl: Wake/Clemson/UVA

The wildcard is what UVA does the rest of the year; they play Penn St. next week as well as the finish w/Maryland and Virginia Tech. They certainly have the toughest road to a bowl since they must win one of those games (they need 7 wins to be eligible since they played in a 13th game this year).

I think that we are locked into the Tangerine unless Maryland drops another game (in addition to the NCSU game next week). IF Maryland did that and GT could win out, then we should land in the Peach at a minimum. Not as likely to happen, but...

The Tangerine matches the ACC/Big East; would we play Boston College? Would Pitt get a return trip there? I think that it would be one of the two.

I will now post the usual disclaimer that GT must beat Duke at a minimum to make sure that we are going to a bowl for the 6th straight year.
 
bdg,

I believe the Citrus / Tangerine share their reps since they are run by the same group. I would believe they were their actually looking for the Tangerine not the Citrus.

Also, the head of that group is a Tech grad I believe. So maybe we'll get a little help getting into the Tangerine.
 
not to rain on anyone's parade... but we still have 3 very tough games remaining... and yes, I am including Duke in that.... not sure if any of you saw their game against Clemson yesterday or not, but if their QB had been a little more accurate on just a few of his passes... they would have beaten Clemson... that WR they have was beating their DB's all day long.... and Roof will work overtime on that one...
 
I am with JacketGuy, too early for me and the bowls. It is obvious we need look no further than this next Saturday. If we beat FSU, that will be a big bowl for me.

I still remember the old days when we were undefeated against FSU. We had something like an 8-0-1 record or 6-0-1 record against them before they came into the ACC.

It seems there is some dispute over two of the games we won in earlier years.

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GT ACE- That's odd because I thought that in years past, order of finish in conference dictated which bowl you went to. If not, can you explain this from espn.com??? Not being a jerk, but were you stating fact or opinion and passing it off as fact? The only flexibility that the bowls have is that they may get to choose between the #5/6 teams or 3/4. I don't see how a bowl could take a 5/6 conference finisher and invite them to a bowl slotted for #2-4?

Tangerine Bowl
Orlando Monday, Dec. 23
5:30 p.m. (ESPN) ACC No. 4 vs.
Big 12 No. 5/6/7

Continental Tire Bowl
Charlotte, N.C. Saturday, Dec. 28
TBA (TBA) Big East No. 4/5 vs.
ACC No. 5/6

Seattle Bowl
Seattle Monday, Dec. 30
5:30 p.m. (ESPN) Mountain West No. 4 vs.
ACC No. 5/6

Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
Atlanta Tuesday, Dec. 31
7:30 p.m. (ESPN) ACC No. 3 vs.
SEC No. 5

Toyota Gator Bowl
Jacksonville, Fla. Wednesday, Jan. 1
12:30 p.m. (NBC) Big East No. 2 or Notre Dame vs. ACC No. 2
 
Gold,
I am stating fact. Bowls have always been like this. Here is what the ESPN.com means: 1st the ACC champ or one of the co-champs is picked by the Orange Bowl & in the case of co-champs the Orange can 'pick' whichever co-champ it wants. Then the Gator Bowl gets 2nd PICK, not necessarily 2nd place team. Gator can take any qualified ACC team it wants. Next, the Peach gets the 3rd 'pick' & can take whichever qualified team it wants, not already selected. Then it's the Tangerine's turn.
The Bowls try to avoid a team 2 yrs in a row as the fans almost never travel as well. The Bowls also try to pick based on who may sell the most tickets to their Bowl or larger fan base or best possible record they can get or whatever. The #1 reason for Bowls is to bring 'fans' into their city & the more tickets you can sell, the more 'fans' you can bring into their city.
If this doesn't clear it up, perhaps someone else can add to this.
 
You are right, GT Ace. The non-BCS bowls do get their choice and don't have to follow positions in the standings. In fact, in 1997 we got a break when the Carquest Bowl invited us, with our 6-5 and 5-3 record, over Virginia who had a better record of 7-4 and 5-3 and had beaten us head-to-head. Reason, IIRC, was that the Carquest had taken Virginia the year before and didn't want them two years in a row. And at the time we had not been to a bowl since 1991 and were a lot happier to go to the Carquest than Virginia would have been.
 
No team has anything locked up. Keep in mind, it's not just Tech's record that counts, but the other ACC teams' records also. Every Bowl wants Clemson's fans & all will scramble for this team, Gator does not want FSU for 2nd yr while every other Bowl does, Peach does not want GT for 2nd time in 3 yrs, Seattle Bowl does not want GT for 2nd yr, Tangerine does not want NC St, no one wants WF, etc, etc.
The Bowls look at who may bring FANS & sell seats. The Bowls CHOOSE who they want in a pecking order. After the ACC winner is placed in the Orange Bowl, all other Bowls are dog-eat-dog for qualified teams.
GT is the only contender with Duke left. NC St could finish anywhere between 12-1 & 9-4 with a 4 game losing streak. FSU could finish between 10-3 or 6-7 & NOT qualify. Maryland between 11-2 or 7-6. GT between 9-3 or 6-6. There is a LOT of football to be played.
1)FSU(6-3)-@GT, VS NCar, @NC St, vs Fla
2)NC St(9-1)-@Mary, @Va, vs FSU
3)Mary(7-2)-vs NC St, @Clem, @Va, vs WF
4)Vir(6-3)-@Penn St, vs NC St, vs Mary, @VT
5)Clem(5-4)-@NCar, vs Mary, vs SCar
6)GaT(6-3)-vs FSU, vs Duke, @Ga
7)Wake(5-5)-vs Navy, @ Mary
 
I don't think we need to go over scenarios since there is only one option. That is the Charlotte Bowl on December 28.

The only scenario I need to consider is, if it is a noon game, can I make it back from Charlotte by 7pm, in time to get married?
 
Originally posted by GT Ace:
Gold,
I am stating fact. Bowls have always been like this. Here is what the ESPN.com means: 1st the ACC champ or one of the co-champs is picked by the Orange Bowl & in the case of co-champs the Orange can 'pick' whichever co-champ it wants. Then the Gator Bowl gets 2nd PICK, not necessarily 2nd place team. Gator can take any qualified ACC team it wants. Next, the Peach gets the 3rd 'pick' & can take whichever qualified team it wants, not already selected. Then it's the Tangerine's turn.
The Bowls try to avoid a team 2 yrs in a row as the fans almost never travel as well. The Bowls also try to pick based on who may sell the most tickets to their Bowl or larger fan base or best possible record they can get or whatever. The #1 reason for Bowls is to bring 'fans' into their city & the more tickets you can sell, the more 'fans' you can bring into their city.
If this doesn't clear it up, perhaps someone else can add to this.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I don't think you are 100% correct. There are some stipulations on which teams the bowls 'pick'. In the case of a tie the BCS would have to take the head to head winner unless the loser was ranked significantly higher than the winner (I think 8 spots but I don't remember the specefics). There are similar rules for 3 and 4 team ties, so it is not exclusively a beauty contest if there is a tie. There are also NCAA stipulations that bowls cannot take a 6 - 6 team unless there are no teams available with a winning record. This could prove to be important as the ACC will almost certainly have one team with a 6 - 6 record (Wake) and could have a couple more.
 
Frankly I think Wake gets left at home with a 3-5 conference record.
 
Goldmember,
U are right about the BCS Bowl representative in case of ties. The head to head winner goes unless the loser is 5 or more spots ahead in combined AP-ESPN Coaches polls & there is a formula to determine the BCS rep in case of 3 or more co-champs.
U are wrong about the 6 W thing. Any team with 6 Ws is eligible for any of the ACC Bowls.
Here is what USAToday says; ACC Bowl eligibility
 
Thanks ACE. I always thought it was order of finish not pick. Hopefully the fact that WFU has about 37 fans will bode well for us.
 
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