GT preseason rank?

And like ncjacket said, if we ever want to become a top 10 or even consistently ranked program we can't only do well when we are down. We have to win games that aren't rivalry games while people think we're good to get anywhere. Otherwise we probably won't be "that" much better than when Gailey was here even with as good a coach as PJ (since this kind of things is in the players hands)
 
dressedcheeseside said:
Does it really matter?
(rhetorical question)

Yes, here's why?

Positives:
1. Better shot at MNC. Right now, Tech would have to go undefeated and still may not get the nod.
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We don't play in the WAC or Mt. West.

The only way an undefeated ACC doesn't get their shot is if there are 2 or more other undefeated teams from the SEC, Big XII, Pac10 or Big Televen.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
We don't play in the WAC or Mt. West.

The only way an undefeated ACC doesn't get their shot is if there are 2 or more other undefeated teams from the SEC, Big XII, Pac10 or Big Televen.
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very true.

Only 1 time in 11 years has an undefeated team from a BCS conference been left out of the title game....that was Auburn...and there were 3 undefeated teams that year.
 
hiveredtech said:
very true.

Only 1 time in 11 years has an undefeated team from a BCS conference been left out of the title game....that was Auburn...and there were 3 undefeated teams that year.
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There were four that year, actually: USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, and Utah.
 
gth816f said:
There were four that year, actually: USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, and Utah.
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As hivered said, Auburn is the only undefeated BCS conference team ever left out. If we were undefeated, we'd be in unless someone else was also. Our schedule is plenty tough enough.
 
Auburn also had a wretched OOC schedule that year. Two Div2 teams and two of the worst teams in Div1. We always have Georgia OOC.
 
div 1aa is actually now known as the "second level football sub-division champion series" or whatever the f--- they want to call it. so lame.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
We don't play in the WAC or Mt. West.

The only way an undefeated ACC doesn't get their shot is if there are 2 or more other undefeated teams from the SEC, Big XII, Pac10 or Big Televen.
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I don't think the ACC team gets put out by the pac 10 or Big 10. One of them will have played both teams from state of Washington that ended this season with a combined record of 2-22, the other is in a conference that went 1-6 in bowl games this season. Unless the ACC does poorly that season I think only the SEC and Big 12 beat us in that regard.
 
Hopefully the embarassing bowl loss will be enough motivation to work hard in the off-season and avoid getting the 'big head' regardless of how high the preseason rank.
 
I think we should be in the 20-25 range. We finished 22.

Pros:
We return tons of players. We will be in our second year of running the O. CPJ typically improves in year two.

Cons:
Our Dline, which was the core of our defense, moved on to the NFL. Our D also regressed during the year.
We have a long standing tradition of burning pollsters who have shown us love over the last decade.
 
WracerX said:
I think we should be in the 20-25 range. We finished 22.

Pros:
We return tons of players. We will be in our second year of running the O. CPJ typically improves in year two.

Cons:
Our Dline, which was the core of our defense, moved on to the NFL. Our D also regressed during the year.
We have a long standing tradition of burning pollsters who have shown us love over the last decade.
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I really can't disagree with your thoughts but I will just say that our D regressed because of injuries to the linebackers and cornerbacks.
 
midatlantech said:
I really can't disagree with your thoughts but I will just say that our D regressed because of injuries to the linebackers and cornerbacks.
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I agree our D regressed because of injuries. But that is an indicator of depth (just look at our scholarship count last year). It is just something I would consider when doing a preseason ranking.

I also think youth, outside our D line, contributed to our D regressing. FR and RFr usually start to wear down about 8 games into a college season. The difference in intensity between HS and college ball is huge. And at least here at Tech, classes start to wear students down too 10 weeks in.
 
For the first time in a long time, I find myself completely apathetic towards where we're ranked in the preseason. That may change, I guess.
 
GTLiebs said:
I don't think the ACC team gets put out by the pac 10 or Big 10. One of them will have played both teams from state of Washington that ended this season with a combined record of 2-22, the other is in a conference that went 1-6 in bowl games this season. Unless the ACC does poorly that season I think only the SEC and Big 12 beat us in that regard.
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True, based on real strength of schedule. But teams like OSUn & USCw get 5 poll slots just by being media favorites. I don't think an undefeated seasons from them automatically bumps an undefeated ACC team from the MNC, but it would be damn hard to overcome the media bias.
 
Here is a #10 ranking...Dennis Dodd of CBS Sportsline.

So....#11 from Rivals and now #10 from Dennis Dodd.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11268404

10. Georgia Tech: Paul Johnson threw together a nine-win season using some old costumes and his uncle's barn (see every Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland movie). Now he has his pieces in place. The ACC, and the country, should be concerned. Issue: Forgetting just what the heck happened against LSU.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
True, based on real strength of schedule. But teams like OSUn & USCw get 5 poll slots just by being media favorites. I don't think an undefeated seasons from them automatically bumps an undefeated ACC team from the MNC, but it would be damn hard to overcome the media bias.
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Yeah, but that is the sort of thing that will add another nail in the coffin of the BCS. Especially if the Pac-10 had as many absolute crap teams as they did in 2008.

WracerX said:
I think we should be in the 20-25 range. We finished 22.

Pros:
We return tons of players. We will be in our second year of running the O. CPJ typically improves in year two.

Cons:
Our Dline, which was the core of our defense, moved on to the NFL. Our D also regressed during the year.
We have a long standing tradition of burning pollsters who have shown us love over the last decade.
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It's because of the regression that showed the fact that our D line was no longer our core. Plus there is that added fact about youth and injuries. I think 15-20 is a bit more likely.
 
I'd say that we start around 15 in the AP poll. I think that as the summer goes along, games like UGA and Miami are going to stick in peoples's minds more than the Peach Bowl.

Matt Hayes at SportingNews has us at 10. Stewie Mandel has us between 11 and 15.
 
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