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BarrelORum said:
UGA sold its academic soul a long time ago so they could throw up a few more Conference Championship flags. For YEARS, Vince Dooley, who is placed on a pedestal by UGA fans and alumni, knowingly ran a system where he was not at all interested in the betterment of his players on the academic front. Your school knowingly graduated players for years in the late 70's and early 80's that could not read or write at a high school level. Your own team of lawyers knowingly defended this by saying that while certainly these players may not be doctors or lawyers, they could certainly better their lives by being the equivalent to trashmen.

Your basketball coach, hired by your University President, in recent years ran the most torrid case of academic fraud in college athletics. ...

That dimploma you have on your wall has urine stains all over it that you can't see. Yet your proud of it for what it means.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate UGA fans and alumni (my sister, and some of my family being UGA alumns), but I certainly have absolutely no respect for UGA as a school and its fans or alumni who think that their degree is so significant because it came from UGA. I certainly respect people's accomplishments. I'm sure you worked hard for your degree. But the seal at the bottom of that degree is what I don't respect. Your school has little to no integrity. It lost sight long ago of being an academic institution and all it represents now are those mad fans in the stands barking "UGA UGA UGA!!"
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Absolutely solid points BOR regarding UGA and their academic souls regarding athletics --you hit on a couple of key points that are reasons why I don't care for UGA from an athletics standpoint.

I was there in the mid-80's --I had a two high school teammates who did not complete high school --really had no business taking courses at DeKalb Community College, much less UGA. One of them returned kickoffs during the entire 1983 season --by 1985 the two of them were out of college, never to step foot in any academic institution again. One of them ended his college career with a 0.0 gpa --no joke.

I will disagree with you regarding a UGA diploma and the sins of the athletic department, certain administrators and even the University President. I don't consider the escapades of the athletic program to diminish the hard work I put in to obtain my degree in mathematics and statistics --there is just no correlation. But that's all I'll say about that.

Again, I have no respect for UGA where the athletic program is concerned, which is one reason I remained a loyal GT fan through my time spent in Athens --but my 'fandomship' has less to do with anything from a UGA perspective and more to do with my genuine passion for GT athletics.
 
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GaJake15 said:
Personally, I don't care about football records for teams that didn't wear facemasks and when black guys weren't allowed to play. Just about all records pre-1960's in every major sport are hollow stats.
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I love how UGAy fans say this all the time to put down our National Titles in 1917, 1928, and 1952. The fact is that IT COUNTS. Saying crap like this is like saying: "Oh yeah the American victory over the British in the Revolution doesn't count because they were still riding horses." What a crock! Fact of the matter is we have a more recent National Title than UGAy does and this burns their ass to no end so they have to trash our other three to make their lone 1980 title look better.
 
TechGator1066 said:
"Oh yeah the American victory over the British in the Revolution doesn't count because they were still riding horses."
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Nowhere close. War and a silly game are not comparable in any fashion.

I think I pretty much said all records pre-1960's were, not totally hollow, but semi-hollow, so UGA accomplishments are in there as well. I respect what they did and love to read stories about the times, but it I can't get in a time machine and go to a football game in 1943. I have to go to one this Saturday in 2007.

I respect the history and the men who played every snap back in the good 'ol days. I'm sure a lot of them didn't agree with the political/social situations of the time, but they were part of it and thrived because of it nonetheless.

This topic is way to deep to discuss on a message board and it's impossible for me to reply with anything that doesn't make me look like a complete idiot. I know all of you think that already, but I still pound sand trying to make objective posts here. This would make more sense in a tailgate debate I think.
 
GaJake15 said:
Nowhere close. War and a silly game are not comparable in any fashion.

I think I pretty much said all records pre-1960's were, not totally hollow, but semi-hollow, so UGA accomplishments are in there as well. I respect what they did and love to read stories about the times, but it I can't get in a time machine and go to a football game in 1943. I have to go to one this Saturday in 2007.

I respect the history and the men who played every snap back in the good 'ol days. I'm sure a lot of them didn't agree with the political/social situations of the time, but they were part of it and thrived because of it nonetheless.

This topic is way to deep to discuss on a message board and it's impossible for me to reply with anything that doesn't make me look like a complete idiot. I know all of you think that already, but I still pound sand trying to make objective posts here. This would make more sense in a tailgate debate I think.
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Go away.
 
GAjake -
I think maybe the point some are trying to make (or maybe this is just how I'm reading this) is that you say that sports records don't mean as much when blacks were excluded yet your beloved school took advantage of (used) blacks during the 70s and 80s. Is this hypocritical?
 
Your school knowingly graduated players for years in the late 70's and early 80's that could not read or write at a high school level.
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BOR, they still do it. Did you see Leonard Pope's resume? It was a sad, 6th grade level (not kidding) writing, and I was embrassed for UGA. I felt kinda bad for Pope, but NO respectable University should have allowed that man to graduate, much less enroll.
 
I thought Jake was a VT guy. ?

Not saying they don't graduate thugs and idiots, but Pope was a UGAger, yes?
 
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