have we turned a corner?.....

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law_bee

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maybe.....

1. recruiting is definitely up

2. we lost but great teams lose every week. #1 will be playing #3 next week and somebody will lose

actually the jury is still out and we won't know until after the UVA game unless we lose prior to that.
 
law_bee said:
maybe.....

1. recruiting is definitely up

2. we lost but great teams lose every week. #1 will be playing #3 next week and somebody will lose

actually the jury is still out and we won't know until after the UVA game unless we lose prior to that.
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Good point.

I frustrated my tailgate crew last night with the philosophical "Are we the #3 team in the country or should ND not be ranked?" :-)
 
I frustrated my tailgate crew last night with the philosophical "Are we the #3 team in the country or should ND not be ranked?" :-)
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Honestly?

We're the #22 team in the nation, and they're the #18 team.
 
No. We're still afraid to try and beat good teams. We will never turn the corner with that attitude no matter what kind of recruiting we do.
 
We're still afraid to try and beat good teams.
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Personally, I'm sick of people saying this. Our offense failed to execute plays in the second half. I guarantee you Nix didn't call the 'false start' play or the 'sack' play or the 'throw an incomplete pass' play on our final drive. I guarantee you he called plays that were designed to get first downs.

Were the plays good play calls? I can't say, without looking at the replay.
 
The only real complaint that I have with the playcalling would have been in the second quarter when GT was first and ten inside the 15. I would have liked to have been a little more aggressive towards scoring seven instead of seeming a bit to settle for three.

In the second quarter, GT had two second and one situations and ending up punting both times. On both second down situations RB threw incomplete passes and GT failed to pick up first downs on third and one. I don't question the second and one passes here as much as I do the execution, RB should have at least completed the first one.

I'm disappointed with the loss ...GT needs these next three at home before travelling to Blacksburg.
 
beej67 said:
Personally, I'm sick of people saying this. Our offense failed to execute plays in the second half. I guarantee you Nix didn't call the 'false start' play or the 'sack' play or the 'throw an incomplete pass' play on our final drive. I guarantee you he called plays that were designed to get first downs.

Were the plays good play calls? I can't say, without looking at the replay.
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The playcalling before the field goal was scared playcalling. Throw the ball into the end zone.
 
knoxjacket said:
The playcalling before the field goal was scared playcalling. Throw the ball into the end zone.
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Yes it was. As Chuck Oliver said this morning, ...Tech let the air out of the football.
I can't believe we wasted 3rd down just to center the ball. We were on the da*%ed 12 yard line.

When will Nix/Gailey come to understand that the only way to defend CJ on an EZ fade is to PI him? :mad:
 
pocket_watch said:
I can't believe we wasted 3rd down just to center the ball. We were on the da*%ed 12 yard line.
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I agree totally. You would have thought it was the end of the game and GT trailed by two or something.

If you step up and put another 7 on the board, you're up 14- zip and momentum is probably going to hoist your defense up to keep ND shut out at the half. What a difference it would have been to be up 14-0 at the half instead of 10-7.
 
law_bee said:
maybe.....

1. recruiting is definitely up

2. we lost but great teams lose every week. #1 will be playing #3 next week and somebody will lose

actually the jury is still out and we won't know until after the UVA game unless we lose prior to that.
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Recruiting? Couldn't be better.

Special teams? No.

Offense? We are no closer to turning a corner with Reggie Ball at quarterback than we was 4 years ago against BYU. In fact, we have took a serious step backwards when you consider the talent being wasted at the present moment.
 
stateline, before I can agree that it's using Reggie that's the problem, I would have to see us actually play an aggressive offensive style. We don't have to throw it every down, but play like we did in the first quarter last night. That style will win games and Reggie was doing fine with it. We stopped ourselves by becoming passive and careful. I agree Reggie can't play that game, but why should he? We need to play offense like Tenuta plays defense. If we give that a shot and Reggie can't cut it, then fine, go to someone else.
 
Until CCG stops trying to micromanage the OC position, we won't see aggresive offense. Was he calling plays in the 2nd half, or just advising Nix?
 
Personally I don't see how you can make the arguement that CCG was micromanaging the OC that's speculation on your part.
IMO the D was not nearly as agressive in the second half as the first was he micromanaging CJT?
 
knoxjacket said:
No. We're still afraid to try and beat good teams. We will never turn the corner with that attitude no matter what kind of recruiting we do.
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That is not a logical response considering the wins against Auburn and Miami last year.
 
Besides the lack of killers on the O line we just seemed to quit at halftime. Coaching, or lack thereof, during halftime?

We have no up-the-middle run game that can control of the game. A little soft on the O line for sure.
 
LongforDodd said:
Besides the lack of killers on the O line we just seemed to quit at halftime. Coaching, or lack thereof, during halftime?

We have no up-the-middle run game that can control of the game. A little soft on the O line for sure.
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I do not think anyone quit...but I do think Nix and D'Alessandris have a lot to prove this year in offensive toughness with all of these returning starters. The defense is definitely tough.
 
hiveredtech said:
I do not think anyone quit...but I do think Nix and D'Alessandris have a lot to prove this year in offensive toughness with all of these returning starters. The defense is definitely tough.
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"Quit" may have a been a little strong perhaps but they certainly lacked the fire in the second half that they had in the first.
 
beej67 said:
I guarantee you Nix didn't call the 'false start' play or the 'sack' play or the 'throw an incomplete pass' play on our final drive. I guarantee you he called plays that were designed to get first downs.

Were the plays good play calls? I can't say, without looking at the replay.
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Well, was it him or Chan that called for the punt on 4th and 1, when ND was starting to gain momentum?

Cause I thought that that call SUCKED:mad: :mad:

NO CAJONES AT ALL
 
RickyReck said:
IMO the D was not nearly as agressive in the second half as the first was he micromanaging CJT?
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yeah, i also noticed that they were less and less agressive the longer that they were on the field:mad:
 
In my opinion we have not turned a corner. Two things stood out to me at the game that made me shake my head outside of the overall outcome.

1.) 4th down and 1 yard at mid field and we punt.

2.) 3rd and 8 from the 12 yard line and we run to the middle of the field to center the ball.

We may play lights out, but you'd never know it because our coaches call an offensive game like a bunch of pussies.
 
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