Hey DRad, marketing genius here.....

Hey boneheads, you know who you are.

This isn't about making Tech fans happy or even about playing hard teams, it's all about selling tickets, 55,000+ per game. If we could fill the stadium with your favorite cupcake that would be great but it ain't happening and if it was we wouldn't be swimming in red ink. So either get off your ass and buy all the seats or get ready for some really exciting football against teams with large fanbases right here in Atlanta.

PS-if the next head coach blanches at the thought of playing football against the SEC you got the wrong man, again.
 
MatatoGT said:
I do think that some of the in-game promos have to go. One or two is okay, but what seems like every break is ridiculous. But, I suppose all those promos and give aways equal money for the AA.
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Exactly.
I realize that we need the promos for the income, but it seems like every single time we just got our collective hearts ripped out, ( Potential Touchdowns turn into Touchbacks vs UGA) someone is playing "Junior Jacket" or trying to win a pizza.

I wanted to scream last Saturday when this kept happening!
 
Maketing genius want-a-bees,

You need to get a since of urgency here. We don't have 5+ years with our debt load waiting for a "winning" team that can fill the stadium when we play Samford and Troy... Ain't going to happen. Last time I looked fans wern't beating down the doors to see us roll over Samford or Troy....

We need more sold-out games starting next year; Florida or Alabama takes the place of Army for our extra home game. Please God, not another Samford.....
 
No if you want to fill the stadium with wildly cheering OPPOSING fans you need to schedule at least 3 of the following teams every year: Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, and Auburn.
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Fixed.
 
71YellowJacket said:
Hey boneheads, you know who you are.

This isn't about making Tech fans happy or even about playing hard teams, it's all about selling tickets, 55,000+ per game. If we could fill the stadium with your favorite cupcake that would be great but it ain't happening and if it was we wouldn't be swimming in red ink. So either get off your ass and buy all the seats or get ready for some really exciting football against teams with large fanbases right here in Atlanta.
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Here's a marketing thought for you marketing genius. Why not get rid of GT football all together and market our stadium for other teams to play neutral field sites on, because in the long run that has more advantage than the stupid **** you just suggested. We could make a crap load more money too and not have to pay anyone to coach or the expenses of running a team.

You don't build a fan base by placing your product under conditions of extreme duress, otherwise you'll NEVER have or build a marketable product. And ultimately that is the goal here.


If selling tickets is our goal, then who gives a crap about GT football, lets just schedule good matchups, whether they involve GT or not.

And by the way, what type of marketing genius who is marketing GT football says: "This isn't about making GT fans happy!" Are you sure you are in marketing? Remind me not to hire you.
 
71YellowJacket said:
Maketing genius want-a-bees,

You need to get a since of urgency here. We don't have 5+ years with our debt load waiting for a "winning" team that can fill the stadium when we play Samford and Troy... Ain't going to happen. Last time I looked fans wern't beating down the doors to see us roll over Samford or Troy....

We need more sold-out games starting next year; Florida or Alabama takes the place of Army for our extra home game. Please God, not another Samford.....
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We may not be marketing geniuses, as sure as you are no English genius. Produce a coherent thought in the English language, and then check back in.
 
At least we agree don't schedule a Samford or Jax State. No D-1AA's. But I'm fine with Army, Ole Miss, Miss St. etc.
 
MatatoGT said:
I do think that some of the in-game promos have to go. One or two is okay, but what seems like every break is ridiculous. But, I suppose all those promos and give aways equal money for the AA.
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I agree, just let the band play. I don't care about the Papa Johns wheel or any of that other crap. I can't imagine it nets too much money for the GTAA either.

As far as scheduling, Samford and Jax State need to be scheduled because of the limited number of D-1A teams out there. There's a limited number of schools such as Army and UConn out there and they're all highly demanded to be played by BCS programs to fill out a 12 game schedule. Playing bigger BCS schools, like Alabama or Auburn, is a pipe dream to say the least. The only other option is D-IAA schools.
 
floridajacket said:
I agree, just let the band play. I don't care about the Papa Johns wheel or any of that other crap. I can't imagine it nets too much money for the GTAA either.
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It does net some pretty good money and right now we need to do it. Give it a few more years and you'll stop seeing it as much, but right now, they need to do it. If Papa Johns can pay off Gailey's salary in 4 years, then I'll buy a pizza a day.
 
What we need to do, ideally, is schedule nearby patsies that have large enrollments who might live in Atlanta.

e.g. Central Florida
e.g. Kentucky
e.g. Alabama (hehe, I just had to say that)

We need the patsie practice win, and we need to fill the stands as best as possible.
 
What BOR said...

And another thing. We make more money from two home patsies than a pair of sellouts where only one is home. Particularly if both are early (or homecoming).

You want to see apathy? What do you think the stands will be like after a GT team beat up and possibly winless from playing LSU, Florida and Tennessee the first three weeks (while the rest of the leage plays round robins with William and Mary, Temple, and VMI) gets pummelled by rested and confident ACC opponents.
 
Wow. Looks like some of our fans really do believe our program has evolved into a weak sister. Some of you must have pissed in your pants when you first heard Auburn was coming back to BDS in 2003.....

Mover,

How well did the team man-up in, was it 84?
 
71YellowJacket said:
Wow. Looks like some of our fans really do believe our program has evolved into a weak sister. Some of you must have pissed in your pants when you first heard Auburn was coming back to BDS in 2003.....

Mover,

How well did the team man-up in, was it 84?
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Weak sister has nothing to do with it. Most BCS schools get to play their major rival as part of their conference schedule - so they will schedule another respectable opponent (which we still do) plus 3 other patsies. We're already at a 1 game disadvantage with most of our competition. It makes no sense to schedule 12 games against BCS level competition - if only for the health of our players. Army was supposed to be a "patsy" but they're still D1-A and we suffered some of our worst injuries in that game.

I'm for keeping a tiered approach to non-con scheduling - UGA, another BCS level opponent, a lower D1-A, and a D-AA. With that, we already schedule tougher than most (if not all) BCS conf schools.

Look at West Virginia, who will likely be playing the BCS Championship game - Maryland (rival, sort of), Marshall (instate rival but nothing like playing UGA), East Carolina, and Western Michigan. And the Big East schedule is a bigger joke year-in, year-out than the ACC.
 
71...

Auburn was a sellout. But did we make more money from the Auburn home-away or from the Samford and Army games?

The big guys schedule pansies because they need seven home games every year. That's five home-away 'real' opponents and two pansies. I believe that we are big time enough to expect seven home games except on rare occasions.

Teams with really huge budgets often schedule three/four pansies for eight home games.
 
71YellowJacket said:
Wow. Looks like some of our fans really do believe our program has evolved into a weak sister. Some of you must have pissed in your pants when you first heard Auburn was coming back to BDS in 2003.....

Mover,

How well did the team man-up in, was it 84?
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Different times man, Different times.

We couldn't handle it now but I do like the match ups out west of us and as I said before I wouldn't mind going a round robin with the ones I mentioned on a 6 year rotation. But hey that's just me.
 
ContactBuzz said:
Weak sister has nothing to do with it. Most BCS schools get to play their major rival as part of their conference schedule - so they will schedule another respectable opponent (which we still do) plus 3 other patsies. We're already at a 1 game disadvantage with most of our competition. It makes no sense to schedule 12 games against BCS level competition - if only for the health of our players. Army was supposed to be a "patsy" but they're still D1-A and we suffered some of our worst injuries in that game.
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ContactBuzz said:
I'm for keeping a tiered approach to non-con scheduling - UGA, another BCS level opponent, a lower D1-A, and a D-AA. With that, we already schedule tougher than most (if not all) BCS conf schools.

Look at West Virginia, who will likely be playing the BCS Championship game - Maryland (rival, sort of), Marshall (instate rival but nothing like playing UGA), East Carolina, and Western Michigan. And the Big East schedule is a bigger joke year-in, year-out than the ACC.
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We are not like the major BCS schools with sold out 100,000 stadiums. We are losing money and can’t sell 55,000 tickets when we schedule a yawner. How are we going to increase ticket sales by 20% while continuing to do what we are doing now?

Oh, oh I see it coming. It’s our lousy fans fault.
 
71YellowJacket said:
We are not like the major BCS schools with sold out 100,000 stadiums. We are losing money and can’t sell 55,000 tickets when we schedule a yawner. How are we going to increase ticket sales by 20% while continuing to do what we are doing now?

Oh, oh I see it coming. It’s our lousy fans fault.
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Actually, we turned a profit in the first year of the TECH FUND. It's true that we have a ways to go paying off some debt but the GTAA can operate with schedule like the one we're playing. With more consistent winning we can fill up the stadium without having to rely on opponent's fans. 9-3 with an additional patsy still will earn you a higher ranking and a better bowl location than 7-5 with an additional BCS conf opponent on the schedule. Higher rankings and better bowls are better for the bottom line than an extra headline game per season.

By the way, I wasn't aware that West Virginia had a 100k stadium (it's 60k). From the marketing perspective, it's a bad comparison (they're the only game in town, no pro sports) - but from a competition perspective, we should be on fairly even ground.
 
71...

Do you have any proof that we lost money scheduling Samford? Ticket price for the season tickets to said yawner is $40 and we have 25,000 season tickets so we make $1 million there before expenses or concessions. The four-fers are just gravy.

Are expenses more than $1 million plus concessions? I doubt it.
 
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