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Anyone see this thread's title and think "damn, not on here too. Who the hell said that?"

Gotcha ;)

I, for one, am sick of seeing that phrase. Unfortunately, they are the "national favorite", or the "icon" of the ACC. I wanted to get some opinions on this.

Is Virginia Tech's "dominance" a good thing, in that it brings respect to the ACC?

If Georgia Tech beats Virginia Tech on October 17th, will GT become the new "face" of the ACC, or will the nation see it as VT losing, and we as a conference slip back to mediocrity?

And finally, a lot of people have said GT will have a 10-2 season. Putting aside the fact that a 10-win season is still a 10-win season, who would be the two teams you could see Georgia Tech losing to?
 
If Georgia Tech beats Virginia Tech on October 17th, will GT become the new "face" of the ACC, or will the nation see it as VT losing, and we as a conference slip back to mediocrity?
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This. Same thing happened in '01 when MD tied for the ACC title (see also: us in '98 and UVA in '95).
 
gtcu17 said:
Anyone see this thread's title and think "damn, not on here too. Who the hell said that?"

Gotcha ;)

I, for one, am sick of seeing that phrase. Unfortunately, they are the "national favorite", or the "icon" of the ACC. I wanted to get some opinions on this.

Is Virginia Tech's "dominance" a good thing, in that it brings respect to the ACC?

If Georgia Tech beats Virginia Tech on October 17th, will GT become the new "face" of the ACC, or will the nation see it as VT losing, and we as a conference slip back to mediocrity?

And finally, a lot of people have said GT will have a 10-2 season. Putting aside the fact that a 10-win season is still a 10-win season, who would be the two teams you could see Georgia Tech losing to?
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The Wahoo's are only going to be average this Season. Two games I think they'll lose off the top of My head are Alabama and Georgia Tech.
 
gtcu17 said:
Is Virginia Tech's "dominance" a good thing, in that it brings respect to the ACC?

If Georgia Tech beats Virginia Tech on October 17th, will GT become the new "face" of the ACC, or will the nation see it as VT losing, and we as a conference slip back to mediocrity?
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All depends on how VT does against Alabama. The Clemson debacle last year really cost in the ACC in what turned out to be a fairly good year for the conference.
 
Virginia Tech has reached the ACCCG 3 of the 4 times the game has been played. They have won the past two. To become the top property of the ACC we have to do more than beat them. We need to beat them and win the ACC and then do it again.
 
unforgiven108 said:
Wahoo's?

Are you insulting VPI by calling them by their rival's nickname? Or just have a brain fart?
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Probably a Brain Fart,Been up late(Wife worked late). I don't like VPI(I dislike those Stanford and Ivy League wannabes at Virginia more) and think GT and FSU are the best in the ACC.
 
YellowJacketDave said:
Probably a Brain Fart,Been up late(Wife worked late). I don't like VPI(I dislike those Stanford and Ivy League wannabes at Virginia more) and think GT and FSU are the best in the ACC.
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Hey these things happen.

And I'll agree with half of your last statement wholeheartedly!
 
2008: 10 wins
2007: 11 wins
2006: 10 wins
2005: 11 wins
2004: 10 wins
2003: 8 wins
2002: 10 wins

VT is absolutely one of the most dominant programs in the nation. Sick of it or not, they have earned the right to be preseason ACC #1 for all eternity until someone steps up and beats them out of that spot.
 
Other than that one game against VT where Calvin went nuts, its been an awful drought up here in VA for Tech. I think we have one win in 19 years in this state.

We get VT in Atlanta so that leaves the game against Groh's chessmen on Oct 25 for CPJ to set things straight.
 
My problem with VPISU getting hype this season isn't because I don't think they've been a good team in the past, it's completely unrealistic expectations being placed on them. A team that lost four games last year, and could have easily lost two more at the end - to DUKE and UVA - is not only the de facto best team in the ACC, but could make a run at the MNC? Really?

I'm cool saying that VPISU is a good bet to win the ACC, just as I'm cool saying that any of the other six teams with a shot at the ACC will win. Based on history, sure, VPISU and Beamer deserve a lot of credit. But there's a lot of delusional people out there if you believe that ESPN knows what they're talking about.
 
My problem with VPISU getting hype this season isn't because I don't think they've been a good team in the past, it's completely unrealistic expectations being placed on them.
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They won 10 games, including a BCS game, and return a whole lot of starters.

Any time any team does that they're going to get the kind of hype VPISU is getting.
 
beej67 said:
They won 10 games, including a BCS game, and return a whole lot of starters.

Any time any team does that they're going to get the kind of hype VPISU is getting.
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Doesn't mean we have to accept it as actually making sense.
 
I think if we beat VPI this year and Chan was still our coach, it would be viewed as the ACC slipping. If Paul Johnson does it in his 2nd year here, he will be seen as the new sheriff in town, and GT will gain prominence without dragging down VPI.
 
Flywheel said:
I think if we beat VPI this year and Chan was still our coach, it would be viewed as the ACC slipping. If Paul Johnson does it in his 2nd year here, he will be seen as the new sheriff in town, and GT will gain prominence without dragging down VPI.
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Depends on the manner of our getting there I would say.

If we win the ACC, and DOMINATE every team we beat and the only losses are close losses, then we will be viewed as new top dog. If we limped by some weak opponents (a la GW 2008) and lost ugly to some not so great opponents (a la UNC 2008) but still won the ACC, then they would say the ACC is slipping.

Just win! Everything else will work itself out.
 
Flywheel said:
I think if we beat VPI this year and Chan was still our coach, it would be viewed as the ACC slipping. If Paul Johnson does it in his 2nd year here, he will be seen as the new sheriff in town, and GT will gain prominence without dragging down VPI.
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That's because CGE would dictate that we still only win 7 games.

Hypothetical: Tech remembers to play football last New Year's Eve, and makes it a close game, or perhaps even wins the Fried Chicken with a Pickle Sandwich Bowl. Are we the "de facto" pick to win the ACC? VPISU won a BCS bowl, but half the teams in the ACC could have won that game, and looked better doing it. LSU supposedly showed "how" to beat the option. But I don't think the Hokies have anything close to the level of talent that LSU put on the field that night. No one in the ACC does.
 
I think GT loses to FSU and Clemson OR Miami. If we let another one slip it would probably be out of conference (Vandy or Georgia). I think Vandy is a trap game but I hope we sweep the SEC. Especially Georgia.

If we beat VPISU and win the ACC and win the Orange bowl and have at least 11 (maybe 12) wins by that point GT will be considered the "new sheriff in town". Definitely preseason top 10 for 2010. At that point ESPN will talk about how PJ's teams get so much better in year 2, and all sorts of other things GT fans have been saying all off-season but sports analysts have been too dumb to realize until it happened again.

A fun scenario: GT loses only to FSU, VT loses only to GT in a close game. GT wins ACC and goes to Orange Bowl, but what if there are no undefeated teams, SEC #1 and Big 12 #1 go to national championship game. Could VT pull an at-large BCS bid with their high initial ranking? The GT loss would not be too late in the season so VT could still be a top 5-7 team. If GT and VT win a BCS bowl that would be epic for the ACC.

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Or an even MORE fun scenario involves GT in the MNC and VT with an at-large bid.
 
I see VPI's high rating as hype. They could be that good, but I doubt it. They won the Orange bowl easily last year and they return a lot. Then you have a few analysts who see the first game of the season and they want to build it up. Then you see a lot of writers follow the lead. Also, you have to ask the question of "who is better than VT?" Outside of the GT fans, not many think we are better just as we do not see UNC being better than VT.

My prediction: 10-2 plus ACC championship and Orange bowl appearance. (that does not mean I think the UGA game will be a loss, but I could see us losing at Vandy.
 
It's also the anti-ACC hype machine happening. I think a lot of folks worry about the VPI-Alabama matchup this year. Hype VPI and then tear down the ACC when they lose.

But in fairness, VPI deserves the top ACC hype until they get knocked off their pedestal. I just hate how the ACC refs help them just because they've been the best the last five years.
 
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