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El Guapo

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Is it reasonable to accept another loss at UGA without a coaching change? 7 years of misery (6 under Chan) would simply be too much to bear and frankly, unacceptable. If we don't think this is an important game anymore, let's bury the hatchet and drop them from our schedule. If people think that we are just too much at a disadvantage given academics, fan base, etc., then why play D-1 ball at all? I'm really tired of all the excuses. If we succumb to accepting these excuses as true impediments, then we are suckers for being fans since we will never achieve another MNC, ACC title or win over UGA. If we can't play to win it all, then what are we looking forward to? Just the entertainment value?

If the tables were turned, UGA would have fired its coach a long time ago.
 
El Guapo said:
If we can't play to win it all, then what are we looking forward to? Just the entertainment value?

If the tables were turned, UGA would have fired its coach a long time ago.
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Ha! It definitely ain't for the entertainment value! I've seen better highschool games! We play some of the most boring football around, and thats just my opinion as an unbiased life long fan of football.

UGA would have fired Chan a few years ago, hell, the fired Donnan who had 8, 9, 10 win seasons (right?) but he never took them to the next level and lost to us 3 times in a row.
 
Is it reasonable to accept another loss at UGA without a coaching change?
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If we won 9, or even 8 regular season, then we might have to accept another UGA loss without a coaching change, because it's difficult or impossible for a college that's not an uber football factory to fire an 8 win coach.

That's not in the cards this season, though, since 8 wins means a UGA win.
 
El Guapo,as Bill Clinton would say "I feel your pain". I agree that Tech should either get in the game for real and put a competitive team on the field, or consider gearing down to another level. We either compete on a national scale (top 25 every year) or get out of the business.
 
Chan's future shouldn't hinge on one game under most circumstances. However, this season is shaping up so that it does appear that his future will hinge on the UGa game.

So be it.
 
"If we don't think this (UGA) is an important game anymore, let's bury the hatchet and drop them from our schedule."

We would have to change the fight song. This game is still the big one. Just sit in the stands and listen to the noise on November 24th.

Better yet, yell "To Hell With Georgia!"
 
I'm with some of the other posters. If we had 8 wins right now (beating UVA and MD), and take care of business w/ UNC, his job would not be in jeopardy. However, where we are, he must win these last 2 to keep his job and that is fine with me.
 
I agree, if we are destined to be the whipping boy for UGAG, then drop them and get into the Southern Conference. We either play big time football or not, if we cant win 4-5 of every 10 games with Ugag then we are pansies.
 
Considering Chan doesn't put the proper emphasis on this game he deserves to be bit in the ass by it.
 
I wouldn't expect any coach's job to depend on one game, but when you haven't beaten your #1 rival at all, that's what it probably comes down to. If he'd have won last year or the year before, he could get a pass. At this point I just don't see how he could stay on. I mean, manybe if we beat UNC and then were to beat Alabama in the Music City Bowl or something might do it.
 
Look at our record in bowl games after we have lost to Ugag, it is not pretty.
 
The real solution here is to play the leg humpers at the start of the season, as someone posted several days ago. Now that Reicht is here, we will never beat them more than 3 times out of 10 playing them as the last game. Why? It's simple. They recruit a hell of a lot better than we do and will always do that as long as Reicht is there. Example, one service (I believe it is Rivals) has them rated #2 in the nation this year. We can't ever come close to that in any year. Another reason they have better coaching. Their young players actually get to play and get better over the season. Example, their OL this year has 3 freshman and they are now getting rave reviews for their play. I have heard their line coach may be the best in the country. In our system, our talented freshman QB has had only one full series under his belt after 10 games, when the starter has struggled and is rated last in the conference. Similar to last year. You take more talented players and give them better coaching for nearly a full season, what can you expect? At least at the start of the season, we stand a hell of a lot better chance beating a top notch SEC team before they get their act together, ask Tuberville about it.
OK, I am through venting but still frustrated.
 
ncjacket said:
I wouldn't expect any coach's job to depend on one game, but when you haven't beaten your #1 rival at all, that's what it probably comes down to. If he'd have won last year or the year before, he could get a pass. At this point I just don't see how he could stay on. I mean, manybe if we beat UNC and then were to beat Alabama in the Music City Bowl or something might do it.
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We have averaged about 11 points per game against UGA since Gailey has arrived. The last 3 years we could have beaten UGA with just a marginally ok offensive showing. He would also be getting a pass if he could have mustered only a marginally bad and not a really awful offensive showing in the ACCCG last year.
 
First you say:
. Now that Reicht is here, we will never beat them more than 3 times out of 10 playing them as the last game. Why? It's simple. They recruit a hell of a lot better than we do and will always do that as long as Reicht is there. Example, one service (I believe it is Rivals) has them rated #2 in the nation this year. We can't ever come close to that in any year
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(with or without Richt they always have and always will recruit better than us)
And then you say:
they have better coaching. Their young players actually get to play and get better over the season
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Do you see the conflict? Is is really coaching, or the better recruits?

Case in point is Morgan Burnett - he's one of our few highly rated recruits that's recieved a lot of minutes as a true freshman....and now he's earned a starting role. Great recruiting makes for good coaching.

Now, granted, Nesbit may be a different example, but IIRC, he wasn't a top rated recruit...a 3 star?
 
While I have been in support of keeping Chan, I am now waivering. Would not want to be in DRad's position because while it might be necessary to make a change, given the on field and on court performances, I would have a hard time justifying firing Chan and keeping CPH (who by the way is under .500 in ACC play).
 
Better question: Is it reasonable to post the same question 8 or 9 times per week? It's not the same poster doing so, but I've seen the same topic at the top of the forum for several weeks.
 
GEETEELEE said:
Do you see the conflict? Is is really coaching, or the better recruits?

Case in point is Morgan Burnett - he's one of our few highly rated recruits that's recieved a lot of minutes as a true freshman....and now he's earned a starting role. Great recruiting makes for good coaching.

Now, granted, Nesbit may be a different example, but IIRC, he wasn't a top rated recruit...a 3 star?
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Why does that make any difference? Recruiting is part of the job too.
 
Donnan was an even better recruiter than Richt IMO, but he did not develop his players and was a bad X's and O's coach. Donnan was 2-3 against us.
 
ncjacket said:
Why does that make any difference? Recruiting is part of the job too.
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Agreed, however, aside from an exceptional year here and there, GT will never recruit better than Uga. We will always be at a disadvantage and that's why it makes a difference.
 
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