How can anyone make the argument to continue to....

[33jacket]

i agree with that but with this offense that would make Brady look average, i think it's best for his confidence to sit the bench and wait for a real offensive gameplan that can utilize his strengths.

I agree with the brady comment...but nothing helps like experience...getting him 3 games of exp isn't enough IMO to ruin confidence...but enough to give him a good base going into next year with a new coach...just my opinion there.

 

[beej67]

We didn't run off Threet, and Garner blew.

Still, might as well start Nesbitt. At least he adds the QB draw back to our playbook, which was the one reliable play of the last 4 years for Tech, as much as I hate to admit it.

 

[WracerX]

I would NOT call that a dropped pass. I would call it a pathetically thrown pass. He threw it 5 yeards too far and over the wrong shoulder and no defenseive player was within 15 yeards. He made Reggie look great on that throw..

Any pass that hits the receiver in the hand is a dropped pass. It was a bad pass though, which I would attribute to the excitement of the big game. He will get better.

 

[gtmg]

We didn't run off Threet, and Garner blew.

Still, might as well start Nesbitt. At least he adds the QB draw back to our playbook, which was the one reliable play of the last 4 years for Tech, as much as I hate to admit it.

The reason for the knock on Nesbitt's passing regardless of high school statistics which can be very deceiving is that is what all the recruiters said. He was slated by most to be a defensive back or receiver/runner type. Our competitor in Athens told him this when they recruited him. Told him they would get him to playing on Sunday in their secondary.We were the only major that recruited him for QB.

While we did not "run off"Threet. We did tell him he would not get to play much and would sit behind a QB that he knew he was better than. And has far as Garner blowing I am tired of all the Chan lovers knocking every QB that Chan gets rid of or moves. He could have helped us this year. The kid had some talent, was highly recruited and knew our offense. I watched some practices too. Chan's judgement of QB talent is very much in question. He has not demonstrated that he knows how to do this at Tech yet.

 

[GT65_UGA89]

you are talking about one instance...JJ slowed down a little in that route...re-watch it...secondly poorly adjusted...even the announcers...one blamed nesbitt the other blamed JJ. But i do agree with you he should have made sure he got it there rather than make the perfect throw.

If JN would have dropped it over JJ's inside shoulder I believe JJ would have grabbed it. JN had the middle of the field but threw it towards the hash-side of the field.

 

[PreventOffense]

start taylor?

After this last loss and his performance throughout the year...are any of you telling me you think Josh couldn't do better than 0TDs and 4 INTs like last game?

Does anyone think after 9 games...Josh wouldn't have more than 2 TDs passing?

How can we continue to start TB at this point?

Play for the future...play josh.

Ask your dufuss Head Coach. He's the one that gets paid 1million+ to recruit and coach the players. Again, Gailey has nothing and the fact that the poor kid who has 1 year of high school is thrown in as the starter and gets all the blame again shows how Gailey cant recruit or produce qb's. You dont have to when you are in the NFL and have a 10-year starter or 35 year old QB to work with (Aikman, O'donnell, etc) Im still not sure how the guy made it this far. He is not very bright at all, which he admitted by supposedly bringing in a coach to add passing to his supposed already great running playbook.

 

[JTS]

gtmg,

Did you ever go to practice and watch Garner play?

We had a walk-on QB that was as good as Garner.

 

[floridajacket]

While we did not "run off"Threet. We did tell him he would not get to play much and would sit behind a QB that he knew he was better than.

So Threet moved to Michigan to sit behind Mallett on the depth chart for four years? Not sure I can buy that argument.

 

[beej67]

If JN would have dropped it over JJ's inside shoulder I believe JJ would have grabbed it. JN had the middle of the field but threw it towards the hash-side of the field.

I think it's wretched that we're haggling about a few feet worth of accuracy when there wasn't a defensive player within FIFTEEN YARDS of the receiver.

 

[GTland03]

i dont give a **** what shoulder it "should" have been thrown to. LAY OUT AND CATCH THE F*CKING BALL!!! MAKE A PLAY!!

the only people making plays were..
MJ
Nesbitt
Dwyer
Wheeler

 

[srschirm]

i dont give a **** what shoulder it "should" have been thrown to. LAY OUT AND CATCH THE F*CKING BALL!!! MAKE A PLAY!!

the only people making plays were..
MJ
Nesbitt
Dwyer
Wheeler

Thank you for saying that.

 

[77GTFan]

Nesbitt is not the answer, not this year. Watching him play when he gets in is a great example of why QB's need to redshirt. Taylor is not the answer either. He has been very disappointing. The stats on our passing game don't lie.

I have said repeatedly that the greatest shortcoming of the Gailey era has been the inability to coach the QB's to improvement. Very few college QBs come ready to succeed as freshmen, they have to be developed.

There are a lot of successful QB's in college right now who have had to be coached up to where they are today. Even the highest rated, Perriloux, Clausen, Tebow, etc. don't come in ready to be great. They have to be coached.

 

[33jacket]

Nesbitt is not the answer, not this year. Watching him play when he gets in is a great example of why QB's need to redshirt. Taylor is not the answer either. He has been very disappointing. The stats on our passing game don't lie.

I have said repeatedly that the greatest shortcoming of the Gailey era has been the inability to coach the QB's to improvement. Very few college QBs come ready to succeed as freshmen, they have to be developed.

There are a lot of successful QB's in college right now who have had to be coached up to where they are today. Even the highest rated, Perriloux, Clausen, Tebow, etc. don't come in ready to be great. They have to be coached.

NO ONE is saying josh is the answer this year....since we HAVE NO ANSWER take your lumps, play the young guy, so down the road he becomes THE ANSWER

 

[aeromech]

NO ONE is saying josh is the answer this year....since we HAVE NO ANSWER take your lumps, play the young guy, so down the road he becomes THE ANSWER

So your asking a coach who is in a win now or else situation, to provide a 'take your lumps now to build for the future' solution. Good luck.

 

[33jacket]

So your asking a coach who is in a win now or else situation, to provide a 'take your lumps now to build for the future' solution. Good luck.

LOL...ok so 2tds and near 10 INTs isn't taking his lumps?

How many times did chan say taylor hasn't played alot of football in his life and we are taking lumps with him? HOW MANY...i can remember at least a dozen

Why not do that with a duel threat QB that has D1 talent? Its not like we are winning.

I guess, in your scenerio losing by 3 is better than by 24...oh wait...we lost by 24 last night. Point is, TB isn't getting the job done and we are losing. Time for a change.

 

[aeromech]

LOL.....I guess, in your scenerio losing by 3 is better than by 24...oh wait...we lost by 24 last night. Point is, TB isn't getting the job done and we are losing. Time for a change.

Not my scenario. I'm just saying Chan is going to play whoever he thinks has the best chance of winning the game right now; because next year probably won't happen for him if he loses another game. Heck, after last night I think Chan is probably done now anyway. I just don't think Chan is looking past the UGA game right now, next year is way, way off in eternity somewhere. So the concept of taking your lumps to build for the future, while having lots of merit in some situations, probably doesn't apply here.

 

[33jacket]

Not my scenario. I'm just saying Chan is going to play whoever he thinks has the best chance of winning the game right now; because next year probably won't happen for him if he loses another game. Heck, after last night I think Chan is probably done now anyway. I just don't think Chan is looking past the UGA game right now, next year is way, way off in eternity somewhere. So the concept of taking your lumps to build for the future, while having lots of merit in some situations, probably doesn't apply here.

Sure it applies...it applies for the program...not chan, but the program. Since we are losing anyway...play nesbitt and whether chan is here or not...it helps the program down the road. I could give a fart about chan.

But to your point...chan is selfish and all about him and his philosophy so he would never play josh...but he should; for the reasons you state above...i do believe it...but Rad is his boss and may hint to him it may not be a bad idea....

 

[TechinItEasy]

.i do believe it...but Rad is his boss and may hint to him it may not be a bad idea....

Rad "hinted" that Gailey shouldn't call offensive plays...so instead he just calls the type of plays that Bond can call.

Anyone wanna go on a covert operation with me and steal Gailey's headset and run it over with a truck...again....and again...and again?

 

[lonestarjacket]

I thought it was 5 INTs.




Yeah, I'm with you. Nesbitt couldn't be any worse. Might as well play him.

edit: Garner? That guy was a deer in the headlights even when he was in the game to hand off the ball.

Nesbitt could very definitely be worse. So far, we don't know if he has more than three plays to run. Those will quickly become unsuccessful if those are the only three plays we run. He needs to have more plays, even before we start "develop for the future." We also stand the threat of screwing him up permanently by starting him before he has the tools to succeed.

So there, we have several arguments to continue to to start Taylor (until someone else is better at least.)

Taylor had a bad game, a REALLY bad game. But before last night he had protected the ball fairly well. Two interceptions (with one a fluke) is not that bad. You don't make a decision for a season based on one bad game (especially when no one else on the team had a particularly great game either).

I am all for continuing to play Nesbitt, and play him more when he has a bigger arsenal or if he is being particularly effective. But I AM NOT ready to write off the rest of the games in a knee-jerk response to a bad game. And I definitely don't want to screw up a QB prospect by destroying hsi confidence playing him full time before he is ready.

P.S.
I think the debate in the booth over Nesbitt's incomplete pass was right on both counts. James said the receiver should have played the ball better. That was true. Flutie countered that he wouldn't have HAD to adjust if the ball had been thrown to the right area (a very LARGE area.) That was true as well.

There you have our problem. We don't have good enough receivers yet who can compensate for an inaccurate throw. And our best QB prospect still needs to prove he can make passes agains NCAA D-1 talent and defenses.

 

[lonestarjacket]

Sure it applies...it applies for the program...not chan, but the program. Since we are losing anyway...play nesbitt and whether chan is here or not...it helps the program down the road. I could give a fart about chan.

But to your point...chan is selfish and all about him and his philosophy so he would never play josh...but he should; for the reasons you state above...i do believe it...but Rad is his boss and may hint to him it may not be a bad idea....

That makes no sense whatsoever. Rad is going to tell Chan to increase the risk of losing more games to develop for the future ... which Chan won't be a part of if he loses more games????

1) I doubt Rad agrees with your assessment of the best choice for QB development.
2) If he did, he can't reasonably tell Chan what to do...unless he guarantees Chan he won't be held accountable for the results. (And I doubt you want Rad to do that.)

If Chan's job is on the line, then he is going to play to win games. Not all fans want to write off the rest of the season as exhibition games.