I hope Dem is wrong...

[GT92]

As I hung out with the mutt nation at a Christmas party last night and had to endure the losses by WV and Mizz., it bring to the forefront the importance of this hire.

I know I have been a strong advocate for Hatcher and that has not changed. I still think he is the guy. Having said that, reality is that unless several of these people refuse or change their minds, he won't be the hire. That's my first diappointment and frustration.

My second is that I just have a hard time believing that Muschamp is the right hire. With what Dems says, however, it is looking that way. I can tell you that their will be a strong segment of the alum that don't like him immediatley due to age, mutt background or the fact that he seemingly can make a sailor blush with his fowl mouth. I still don't see the facination with him. I can almost assure you that he is not more qualified than others in speculation.

Face it, anytime at LSU was spent as a yes man to Saban as we know he calls the shots on the defensive side of the ball.

Also, he has not been anywhere that required the taking of lesser talent and winning over a peroid of time. He seems to me to be much more likey to use GT to get a SEC job ASAP. Hatch seems more likely to want to stay in Ga. and build our program.

Recruiting is a must but the mutt nation can tell you it's not all, see Ray Gooff. I know I am rambling here but I don't see the reason to hire Muschamp when Hatcher is more qualifed and has the same talents and obviously more HC experience. I am not against a Coordinator but when there is a guy with as much talent sitting there with the HC experience, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Don't discount the skills Hatch has developed as a HC that Mus would have to develop along with everything else.

Also, get ready for the mutts to scream that we need to get one of there's to even have a chance at beating them. I freakin hate UGA.

Coleman

 

[gsu_paintballer]

I agree.

Hatcher>BOOM BOY

But Ill support whoever we get.

 

[Yukonwreck]

Demjackets is correct. And there would be growing pains with either Muschamp or Hatcher, or Tenuta. Neuheisel is the only one with big time head coaching credentials. So be prepared for losing a couple of games due to nothing more than the head guy has never had his nuts in that vice before. I think it is moving towards being Will Muschamp, but he won't set the world on fire right away. The potential there has an unbelieveable upside, though. He might be the next Bob Stoops, or even Nick Saban or Urban Meyer. We should know the selection before midweek.

 

[dw17]

Yes to Muschamp. He'd bring much needed energy to the program and he and Giff Smith will be very, very good on the recruiting trail.

 

[jl]

Coleman-pls see my replies to 1gtfan and 56 jacket in the threads below. I think Hatcher and muschamp would both do a great job- - I'll support whoever gets it- I hope you will too.

 

[GTLaker]

I've already heard some crap from mutt fans about hiring one of their own as our coach.

I assume that Muschamp's biggest pluses would be recruiting and the energy he brings to the game. What are his other strengths?

 

[JonnyGT]

Let the UGA fans crow all they want. They wanted Muschamp as DC when Van Gorder left, but WM told them NO.

 

[BuzzCzar]

please not the screamer

i want a coach with class, not one that can curse well.

muschamp has neither the experience nor the respect

 

[GT Adamni]

I agree, Coleman. It'll be a big mistake if we don't hire Hatcher. He's going to be big time. Gotta trust Rad, though.

 

[GEETEELEE]

Muschamp or Hatcher - either will be a toss of the dice. But with Edsall and Johnson apparently outta the picture, the only 'safe' hire left is RN....and I just don't believe that's gonna happen.

Drad is goin' for the homerun ball here, and concerning the state of the program, I think it's the right time to swing for the fences. If he crashes and burns, so be it. Another 3 seasons of mediocrity will crash and burn the program as well.

gotta leave it in the hands of the guy we hired to do this specific job. We said he's the right guy.....let's trust him.

 

[GTWannaBee]

But with Edsall and Johnson apparently outta the picture, the only 'safe' hire left is RN....and I just don't believe that's gonna happen.

If by safe you meant he most hated of the candidates, then you're right. Rick has way too much opposition.

 

[floridajacket]

I've already heard some crap from mutt fans about hiring one of their own as our coach.

I assume that Muschamp's biggest pluses would be recruiting and the energy he brings to the game. What are his other strengths?

The article about him said that he's also insanely into the X's and O's. He shows passion, but shows it in talking about football, not just headbutting vending machines like Ron Zook.

The characterization of him as an Orgeron-type that can recruit and yell but not coach are just wrong. Since being a DC at LSU, he got players to play the right plays hard. That and recruiting are exactly what we're looking for, isn't it?

 

[TerminusTechie]

please not the screamer

i want a coach with class, not one that can curse well.

muschamp has neither the experience nor the respect

From http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_S._Patton:

When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can't run an army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An army without profanity couldn't fight its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag. ... As for the types of comments I make, sometimes I just, By God, get carried away with my own eloquence. -- George S. Patton in a remark to his nephew about [Gen. Patton's] copious profanity.

The key is having the judgment to known when to use profanity to motivate men and when profanity is nothing but a crutch for a limited vocabulary of adjectives.

 

[JTS]

Here is the e-mail that I sent to D-Rad just now.

Sorry to bother you. I know you must be very busy with the hiring process for our new head football coach in addition to your normal responsibilities, but I wanted to draw your attention to a factor that you may be unaware of or have ignored.

If you look at all the GT message boards or any of the fan generated polls, Chris Hatcher is the overwhelming fan favorite to fill the position. Now I am not suggesting that we allow our new football coach to be selected by popular vote. After all, we hired you for your expertise in handling these matters. But it is concerning to me, assuming the rumors I hear are true, that we are on the verge of selecting a new coach and Chris Hatcher, the fan's favorite, has not even been permitted a formal interview to make his case for the position.

It seems particularly peculiar to me because I feel that one of the great strengths that you have demonstrated in your time at GT is an ability to build a consensus by growing awareness amongst yourself and the various stakeholders in our AA. GT fans trust your judgment and I am certain that they will support whoever you select for this position, however, I feel this support will come more easily if fans feel that their opinion has been heard and explored in good faith as an option.

I urge you to formally interview Chris Hatcher both because I feel that he is an excellent candidate and it will make it easier on fans to accept your decision should you decide to go in another direction.

Thank you for all your efforts and taking the time to read my message.

 

[TechGator1066]

please not the screamer

i want a coach with class, not one that can curse well.

muschamp has neither the experience nor the respect

If that youtube video didn't exist, it would even be an issue. I think you would not like Tenuta so much if there was a youtube video of him during a game.

 

[RickyReck]

Muschamp or Hatcher - either will be a toss of the dice. But with Edsall and Johnson apparently outta the picture, the only 'safe' hire left is RN....and I just don't believe that's gonna happen.

Drad is goin' for the homerun ball here, and concerning the state of the program, I think it's the right time to swing for the fences. If he crashes and burns, so be it. Another 3 seasons of mediocrity will crash and burn the program as well.

gotta leave it in the hands of the guy we hired to do this specific job. We said he's the right guy.....let's trust him.

I've gotta agree with GTL

 

[law_bee]

all are a crapshoot, but I feel RN has the largest downside.

WM has an impresive resume and may be a great hire just like all the other names may be a bust. I like the fact that WM has strong ga ties and could possibly build something great and STAY.

 

[BarrelORum]

I know I have been a strong advocate for Hatcher and that has not changed. I still think he is the guy. Having said that, reality is that unless several of these people refuse or change their minds, he won't be the hire. That's my first diappointment and frustration.

So you're gonna boo hoo because you didn't get your choice?

My second is that I just have a hard time believing that Muschamp is the right hire. With what Dems says, however, it is looking that way. I can tell you that their will be a strong segment of the alum that don't like him immediatley due to age, mutt background or the fact that he seemingly can make a sailor blush with his fowl mouth. I still don't see the facination with him. I can almost assure you that he is not more qualified than others in speculation.

Really? Could you elaborate on that a little more ? If DRAd says this is the best guy we're stupid for not hiring him based on something that is unrelevant to his coaching ability. So based on his coaching ability alone, 1.) You believe he is the most qualified or 2.) you don't. If he's not please give me some real reasons as to why he is not and not some generalized non-fact statement.

Otherwise, you gotta trust the man we hired to make this decision. He surely is qualified to make that decision better than you or me.

Face it, anytime at LSU was spent as a yes man to Saban as we know he calls the shots on the defensive side of the ball.

Really? He had the number one defense in the country in his second year on the job. He was in the top 10 every year on defense. Then he went t Miami, then he left Saban and went back to the college game where with his one year on the job, the year after we walked all over that Auburn's defense. he had them as the number 7th defense in the country. And this year he is once again fielding a top 10 defense. Saban hasn't been around the last two years.

So I really don't see how the above quote applies at all.

Also, he has not been anywhere that required the taking of lesser talent and winning over a peroid of time. He seems to me to be much more likey to use GT to get a SEC job ASAP. Hatch seems more likely to want to stay in Ga. and build our program.

Maybe you can elaborate this a little more. How would you know this?

Don't discount the skills Hatch has developed as a HC that Mus would have to develop along with everything else.

I defintely do not, Hather is an excellent coach, but you need to be on board with whomever DRad decides. And Muschamp in my opinion has all the tools that Hatcher does. Would it appeal to you if Hatcher was the OC?

Also, get ready for the mutts to scream that we need to get one of there's to even have a chance at beating them. I freakin hate UGA.

Coleman

Do you think the mutt nation ever got over their problem that Vince Dooley went to Auburn? Seems like they did and most Dawgs hate Auburn.

I think it would be hysterical if we hired a mutt to beat them. Not only would we prove we are better than them on the field, but smarter too. Plus the hatred they would have for our coach would be so relentless, he'd instantly become a GT fan favorite.

 

[BarrelORum]

please not the screamer

i want a coach with class, not one that can curse well.

Oh no, a coach that curses? Have you ever played football or watched a practice up close? It isn't a Sunday School picnic. Jeeze, can we tack up another baseless comment.

 

[Axe]

Coleman,

I feel for you if you don't get your guy. I think Hatcher would be a great choice as well, but you are way underselling WM.

I call your comment about him having a mouth like a sailor total freakin' BS. A DC that cusses on the sideline in excitement. Who would have thought there was such a thing? G'OL never talked like that, Tenuta never would do such a thing. You also talk about how people are going to have a problem with WM's age, but Hatcher is your guy? I don't understand that. I won't even speak to what the mutt fans will say. I couldn't care less what the mutts think about our hire.

The guy can recruit and he is considered a top X and O guy. Why would Saban bring him to the NFL in top position if he was only a screamer and a recruiter. I don't care what he was to Saban. The guy has risen quickly through the ranks because he knows his stuff. Sure LSU and Auburn have talent, but I've seen plenty of DCs at those schools that couldn't get it done with that talent.

He is not a simple screamer. I hope that you will keep an open mind and not use your status as a former Tech great to rip a guy that you really don't know much about. I'm fine with you speaking out, but if WM gets the job I think you should take the time to learn a little bit about him, his background and watch to see what kind of job he does. If he does poorly, call him out, but in the mean time give the guy a chance.