I just heard tommy Tuberville on Espnu say

[TechinItEasy]

I can think of at least one player that has moved from O to D this year(of course not his name). they were giving him some love during our replay yesterday.

So at least the road goes both ways.

 

[theShaft]

...to the OP, yet Tommy lost his D.C. and changed his Offense to the spread after picking up a new O.C.. Score 3 points on MS that we killed and last time we played them, both underdogs, we whipped up on them.

Tubberville would be the last person I care to listen two.

 

[1gtfan]

...to the OP, yet Tommy lost his D.C. and changed his Offense to the spread after picking up a new O.C.. Score 3 points on MS that we killed and last time we played them, both underdogs, we whipped up on them.

Tubberville would be the last person I care to listen two.

WRONG...Tubberville has been a defensive wiz from way back (Dating back to his days as a defensive asst. with those great Miami teams) The man consistently wins and with great defenses. Any championship coach would say that great defense and having great defensive depth is most important to consistently win, so you are just wrong on this.

 

[theShaft]

WRONG...Tubberville has been a defensive wiz from way back (Dating back to his days as a defensive asst. with those great Miami teams) The man consistently wins and with great defenses. Any championship coach would say that great defense and having great defensive depth is most important to consistently win, so you are just wrong on this.

They're all facts, I can't be wrong!

 

[1gtfan]

They're all facts, I can't be wrong!

I believe that has to do with offense, we are talking defense here...No one can factually say that Tubberville has not been very consistent in having good teams and he says that being deep as a defense is key, that is definetly a fact with the teams that have been very good, i.e. U.S.C., Oklahoma, L.S.U. all the programs that have been consistently good, they are deep on defense. no denying that.

 

[ncjacket]

WRONG...Tubberville has been a defensive wiz from way back (Dating back to his days as a defensive asst. with those great Miami teams) The man consistently wins and with great defenses. Any championship coach would say that great defense and having great defensive depth is most important to consistently win, so you are just wrong on this.

Interestingly I heard on the radio yesterday that Rockne said WTTE, if you're going to be strong on only one side of the ball, make it offense. The reason was that is you're a defense first team and something happens early and you get behind, it's difficult to get back in the game because of the team's mindset if nothing else. You can be taken out of a game early. If you're an offensively minded team and you get behind, nobody really worries about it. Of course he didn't say not to have a strong defense or that it isn't important.

 

[GTgrad86]

WRONG...Tubberville has been a defensive wiz from way back (Dating back to his days as a defensive asst. with those great Miami teams) The man consistently wins and with great defenses. Any championship coach would say that great defense and having great defensive depth is most important to consistently win, so you are just wrong on this.

7gtfan is right on target. Its a known fact that offense wins games. but defense wins championships !!

 

[ncjacket]

7gtfan is right on target. Its a known fact that offense wins games. but defense wins championships !!

Well, normally good TEAMS win championships. There are very few teams with good offenses but no defenses that win big, just as there are vewy few teams with good defenses but no offense that do. The bottom line is you have to be able to score when you need to and stop the other team when you have to.

 

[1gtfan]

Well, normally good TEAMS win championships. There are very few teams with good offenses but no defenses that win big, just as there are vewy few teams with good defenses but no offense that do. The bottom line is you have to be able to score when you need to and stop the other team when you have to.

We have had these disscussions before, but the bottom line is that NO championship team has ever had a pourous defense, there are some that have had medoicre offenses or average offenses but a common characteristic of all championship teams is their great defenses, that's why coaches say all the time what tubberville said (you win consistently with defense) you don't hear coaches say you win consistently with good offenses, i wonder why? It is because good defense will almost always keep you in a game and at least give you a chance to win. Like I said, that is why you hear coaches all the time touting that defense wins championships or give you a chance at being consistently good.

Tubberville got this right.

 

[JWE37]

We have had these disscussions before, but the bottom line is that NO championship team has ever had a pourous defense, there are some that have had medoicre offenses or average offenses but a common characteristic of all championship teams is their great defenses, that's why coaches say all the time what tubberville said (you win consistently with defense) you don't hear coaches say you win consistently with good offenses, i wonder why? It is because good defense will almost always keep you in a game and at least give you a chance to win. Like I said, that is why you hear coaches all the time touting that defense wins championships or give you a chance at being consistently good.

Tubberville got this right.

Good point, Ohio St 2002. Very mediocre offense, but they always came through in crunch time (Purdue)...and if they didnt, the ref would make up a Pass interference call to send it to double overtime (Miami-NC game). Sorry Canes fans.

 

[BuzzMD]

We have had these disscussions before, but the bottom line is that NO championship team has ever had a pourous defense, .

1gtfan, the 2006 Colts would argue with you that NO championship team had a porous defense. As would these other teams on this list.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/7_1345_Worst_Super_Bowl-winning_defenses.html

WORST SUPER BOWL-WINNING DEFENSES
Team

Record
Points Allowed
PPG​

2006 Colts

12-4
360
22.50​

1983 Raiders

12-4
338
21.13​

1968 Jets

11-3
280
20.00​

1998 Broncos

14-2
309
19.31​

1980 Raiders

11-5
306
19.13​

Although I would argue about the NO comment, as a general rule you are correct. If you look at the 25 best defenses (scoring wise) in the Superbowl era, 8 (32%) have won the SB http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=631&Category=7 . If you look at the top 23 best offenses in the Superbowl era, only 4 (17%) won the SB. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1153&Category=7

 

[1gtfan]

1gtfan, the 2006 Colts would argue with you that NO championship team had a porous defense. As would these other teams on this list.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/7_1345_Worst_Super_Bowl-winning_defenses.html

WORST SUPER BOWL-WINNING DEFENSES
Team

Record
Points Allowed
PPG​

2006 Colts

12-4
360
22.50​

1983 Raiders

12-4
338
21.13​

1968 Jets

11-3
280
20.00​

1998 Broncos

14-2
309
19.31​

1980 Raiders

11-5
306
19.13​

Although I would argue about the NO comment, as a general rule you are correct. If you look at the 25 best defenses (scoring wise) in the Superbowl era, 8 (32%) have won the SB http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=631&Category=7 . If you look at the top 23 best offenses in the Superbowl era, only 4 (17%) won the SB. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1153&Category=7

I can appreciate the time you put into that research...But you agree with me, there are going to be RARE examples.

I guess it doesn't matter anyway who agrees or not, we will never be a championship team without great defense. we either build toward that goal or forget the championships. That is my opionion and I am sticking to it and I would say a vast majority of coaches if not all of them would agree with me. :wow:

 

[GTKyle]

I can appreciate the time you put into that research...But you agree with me, there are going to be RARE examples.

I guess it doesn't matter anyway who agrees or not, we will never be a championship team without great defense. we either build toward that goal or forget the championships. That is my opionion and I am sticking to it and I would say a vast majority of coaches if not all of them would agree with me. :wow:

Great teams have good offenses and good defenses. This is why the Joe Hamilton teams were never NC contenders.

 

[GTMensLax&SoccerD1Soon!]

tommy tuberville is a blasted idiot

 

[NATSman]

Great teams have good offenses and good defenses. This is why the Joe Hamilton teams were never NC contenders.

For God's sake, whatever you do, don't imply that Ted Roof was a bad DC. People will really get their feelings hurt...

 

[GTSaxophone]

1gtfan, the 2006 Colts would argue with you that NO championship team had a porous defense. As would these other teams on this list.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/7_1345_Worst_Super_Bowl-winning_defenses.html

WORST SUPER BOWL-WINNING DEFENSES
Team

Record
Points Allowed
PPG​

2006 Colts

12-4
360
22.50​

1983 Raiders

12-4
338
21.13​

1968 Jets

11-3
280
20.00​

1998 Broncos

14-2
309
19.31​

1980 Raiders

11-5
306
19.13​

Although I would argue about the NO comment, as a general rule you are correct. If you look at the 25 best defenses (scoring wise) in the Superbowl era, 8 (32%) have won the SB http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=631&Category=7 . If you look at the top 23 best offenses in the Superbowl era, only 4 (17%) won the SB. http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1153&Category=7

Keep in mind that during their Super Bowl run, the defense stepped up tremendously during the playoffs. In fact, before the playoffs started, most pundits wrote them off for winning it all for their defense during the regular season. That significant increase in defense is what put them over the top.

 

[refrigeratormover]

For God's sake, whatever you do, don't imply that Ted Roof was a bad DC. People will really get their feelings hurt...

No, we don't get our feelings hurt but we do get pissed off when turds like you make stupid comments on something you know nothing about. Keep being a turd your posts are pretty consistent.

 

[ncjacket]

We have had these disscussions before, but the bottom line is that NO championship team has ever had a pourous defense, there are some that have had medoicre offenses or average offenses but a common characteristic of all championship teams is their great defenses, that's why coaches say all the time what tubberville said (you win consistently with defense) you don't hear coaches say you win consistently with good offenses, i wonder why? It is because good defense will almost always keep you in a game and at least give you a chance to win. Like I said, that is why you hear coaches all the time touting that defense wins championships or give you a chance at being consistently good.

Tubberville got this right.

So where did I say porous? Ask Spurrier about his FL days and winning consistently with good offense. No on is saying your defense should suck. Just that you need to be good on BOTH sides of the ball if you want a chance to win championships.

 

[1gtfan]

So where did I say porous? Ask Spurrier about his FL days and winning consistently with good offense.

Err,

Spurrier FINALLY won his National championship after he went out (In his words) got the best DC he could find in Bob Stoops. Spurrier was tired of winning but not winning it all and no MNC. After having outstanding defenses at UF and winning the MNC as a UF DC, Bobby Stoops got his big break at being named head coach at Oklahoma, Now with outstanding defenses both Oklahoma and U.S.C. are on a collision course headed most likely to the BCS Champ. game. In fact Both Pete Carroll and Bob Stoops are old DC's. with defensive coaching background. Carroll I believe is still his own DC.

Same thing happened to Bobby Bowden at Fsu, he like Spurrier had a run but NO national championships UNTIL he went out (In his words) and got the best DC at the time Mickey Andrews from Clemson.

Both Spurrier and Bowden both have said many times that they did not have championship teams until they started playing Lights out defense, they had great offenses but found out without a great defense you couldn't win it all... i think it was Bowden that said " You can have just a decent Offense but a great defense and win it all. His offense now is far from decent, it is terrible..But, for many years he had good offenses but great defenses.

 

[NATSman]

No, we don't get our feelings hurt but we do get pissed off when turds like you make stupid comments on something you know nothing about. Keep being a turd your posts are pretty consistent.

Turd? Really? Turd?

Gosh..... I think you just ruined my recess.... Sorry I hurt your feelings AGAIN... And speaking of consistent turds, that's what Ted Roof dropped on the field as a defensive coordinator at Tech. I didn't make this stuff up you know. Sorry you can't handle the truth. But, since it means so much to you, I won't go and tell teacher that you called me a turd.