I would love to see Tech repace Vanderbilt

I'd love to rejoin the SEC. The beauty of joining the SEC would be the injection of raw hatred that could be added to the Tech fans' diet. Who do you hate? UGA and, to some degree, Florida State. Imagine playing Tenessee, Florida, Alabama, Auburn and LSU on a regular basis. Their fans are too obnoxious not to hate. My feeling is this: Beating a team is a good feeling. Beating a good team is a very good feeling. Beating someone you hate is indescribably wonderful.
 
Originally posted by nathogt:
I'd love to rejoin the SEC. The beauty of joining the SEC would be the injection of raw hatred that could be added to the Tech fans' diet. Who do you hate? UGA and, to some degree, Florida State. Imagine playing Tenessee, Florida, Alabama, Auburn and LSU on a regular basis. Their fans are too obnoxious not to hate. My feeling is this: Beating a team is a good feeling. Beating a good team is a very good feeling. Beating someone you hate is indescribably wonderful.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Hell yes! The Tennessee Volunteers suck! This bunch most especially I would like to kick their ass every year.
 
Stateline, Old Foggy - love ya, respect ya, but your posts on this leave me speechless and incredulous. Who in their right mind would consider leaving the ACC to slum in the SEC? You lay down with dogs, you get fleas. Extricating us from that was Dodd's greatest legacy. Ga. and Fla. are ok schools. The rest suck. GT, Duke, WF, UNC and UVA are in another (higher in every way) league. Any and all ACC schools are of infinitely more interest to follow than KY, SC, MSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas, LSU (in addition to the fact that, unlike that SEC flotsom and jetsom, they are actual reputable academic institutions).
 
Originally posted by Bee4GT:
Extricating us from that was Dodd's greatest legacy.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">That is correct. As I recall we had tremendous success as an independent and we are now the Notre Dame of the South, just as Dodd envisioned.

Or maybe not....

Leaving the SEC and causing financial pain for our athletic program is not exactly my idea of a legacy.

CDK Disclaimer - I do understand that this is a result of being independent, and is not related to the conference from which we parted. However, Dodd's legacy is something I would consider positive, and this does not fit that description.
 
I agree with you refrigeratormover...

But i would try Hardest to schedule Auburn and Alabama the most..Simply for recruiting in the State of Alabama...The state of Tennessee has never been a hotbed for talent and we have really never done well up there with recruiting...

By the way..why would we want to go the the SEC?? With the addition of Miami and VT..The ACC became IMHO the Very Best Conference in the country...If you look at the Pre-season and i think even now The Top 25 The NEW ACC has more teams in it than any other conference..I think 1 to 2 more than the SEC...

Also playing in the ACC NOW..Makes recruiting the state of Florida ( the most talent rich state out there) that much easier..
 
Black Watch to answer your question:

By the way..why would we want to go the the SEC??

Its so we wouldn't have to schedule the dadgum hypocrite anymore. LOL!
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plus BEEing a member of the SEC would help in recruiting. At least in football anyway. Coach Dodd was super for Tech in his era but his getting out of the SEC was the worst thing ever to happen to our football program and home attendance. IMO
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Good thread Stateline.. and good points to ponder in your post..

My take on the Vandy situation is a little different.. I see this as a trend that is beginning... would it shock you if Adams did the same at Georgia? Dont be surprised to see it happen ...

I have said in the past that I wish we would get a regular rotating non conference game including Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, and Notre Dame... playing each a home and home every 8 years.. I think a schedule including the "New ACC" along with OOC games against Georgia, one of the teams mentioned above, and a team from another region of the country would serve Tech well..

I agree with Black Watch.. I dont want to see us in the SEC.. I think most would agree that the ACC has a much better academic reputation than the SEC .. and SEC football is not what it was even 10 years ago.. and I believe that looking forward 10 years.. you just may find the best football, basketball, and academics in the ACC
 
Originally posted by BLACK WATCH:
I agree with you refrigeratormover...

But i would try Hardest to schedule Auburn and Alabama the most..Simply for recruiting in the State of Alabama...The state of Tennessee has never been a hotbed for talent and we have really never done well up there with recruiting...

By the way..why would we want to go the the SEC?? With the addition of Miami and VT..The ACC became IMHO the Very Best Conference in the country...If you look at the Pre-season and i think even now The Top 25 The NEW ACC has more teams in it than any other conference..I think 1 to 2 more than the SEC...

Also playing in the ACC NOW..Makes recruiting the state of Florida ( the most talent rich state out there) that much easier..
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Black Watch: Remember I did say all things even, and by that I do mean strength of the conference. And I don't see the ACC being stronger than the SEC, top to bottom all things related to football including strength of the teams, stadiums, traditions, etc. A question: Would you rather leave Neyland or Wallace Wade with a victory? Heck I could argue for Kentucky's Commonwealth over Wallace Wade. Would you rather invade Bryant-Denny or Groves? For every Death Valley at Clemson there is three SEC stadiums comparable! Also Florida still is in the SEC by the way. And the Gators are the big dog in Florida. Florida State and Miami are territorial favorites in the state while the Florida Gators are the majorities choice. Besides look at our success in Louisiana! We have done excellent there without an ACC school to use as a stepping stone. Besides if not us joining the SEC it WOULD be someone out of the ACC. You can mark my words on that.
 
With all the talk of Vandy leaving, staying. If they leave we should make a pitch to become the 12th team. The SEC wants to have a playoff between east and west so they must have the 12 teams. Ala, Aub, Tenn, LSU these are the guys who are our natural rivals. Md, Va, NC will never replace Bama, Aub or even Fla for that matter in this old heart of mine.
 
Bee4Gt... RIGHT ON...

You worded it better than i did...That is the BOTTOM line...A move to the sec would be a backwards move as far as GT is concerned...

The sec is a gutter compared to the ACC...Stadiums and GameDay experiences can be argued all day ...BUT the bottom line is we are in THE conference of the future...There is a LOT of excitement nationwide in regards to the NEW ACC....
 
Interesting speculation. I'd like to play the old SEC rivals, but prefer the ACC as schools we should be associated with.

BTW, you guys do know that it would take major shifts in the SEC, a pretty steep financial penalty to the ACC and the willingness of the SEC to take us back for this to happen anyway, right? It's fun to speculate, but if anybody is holding their breath on this one the better let it out now.
 
Originally posted by statelinejacket:
Black Watch: Your opinion please by answering my questions....What would be more enjoyable: Leaving Neyland with a win or leaving Wallace Wade with a win? Which would pump you up more..walking into Bryant-Denny to watch Tech square off against the Crimson Tide or entering Groves Stadium to see the Jackets against the Deacons. Which of these matchups would get your blood boiling? There is something to be said for tradition....the Auburn game was a week of basking in it. Beating Auburn was all the better because of it. I can't see an argument to that. We play Georgia during the season and as the last game because of ...tradition. I can't see anything over the next twenty years that would change that...that includes Miami or Virginia Tech. The Orange Bowl is never full and Virginia Tech could be as many have suggested, being good only as long as Frank Beamer is there. Oh sure beating the Canes or the Hokies would be great but only if and when they are still on top. Beating Louisiana State...or Alabama...or Tennessee...or Florida...or the Georgia Bulldogs well my friend...whether they are good, bad, or ugly there is no comparision for this devout Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket!
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Black Watch: Reread this please and reply to the above questions in it. Everyone who reads this for the first time or read it yesterday are welcome to reply also. For me there is no contest...beating the Volunteers and Gators ranks right up there with the Bulldogs and Seminoles. Your argument that the ACC is the future is ...hogwash. Do you really expect Virginia Tech and Wake Forest to be nationally ranked teams without the excellent coaching skills of Frank Beamer and Jim Grobe? Maryland without the Fridge? All three of these schools recent success is irrefutably the work of their current coaches....and you expect it to continue after this trio has retired or moved on to greener pastures? With the execption of Kentucky, football is number one at every school in the SEC. In the ACC the four North Carolina and Maryland are arguably basketball schools and nothing has happened that would change that. Have you so quickly forgotton how the Dukies and Tar Heels try to undo the expansion. Again you are discounting tradition here and the ACC is by gosh two things to most sports fans of the ACC schools: Tobacco Road and Basketball and nothing has changed that.
 
Stateline..Ive reread it again..And all i can say is it is your opinion and your entitled to your opinion...It has been made clear that there are some (How many no one can really Know) That will ALWAYS want Gt back in the sec..All i can say is you will need to find some way to get over it.It will NEVER happen and i like many others DONT want to return..IMHO we are in the best football conf..VT may drop off i DONT think so..Beamer has developed some Rabid fans up there and with their Rivalry with UVA.. IMHO....The folks in Blacksburg will NOT let there be much of a dropoff after Beamer..now that they are in the ACC and our new Image as Being one of the best if NOT the Best Football Conference in the nation..VT will not have trouble bringing in a Top Notch Head Coach after Beamer..Who Knows?? They may even get better..You never know...One thing i do Know..the New ACC has garnered a heck a lot of respect Nationwide..I love it..and i root against the sec every time they play..Just like last sat.night and Miami (From the new ACC) beating the sec's best team.. (And i dont mean you.or any GT fan that wishes to be back in the sec)..BUT i love to see all these ole sec/uga media types and you can just see it in their eyes they cant stand their (Mostly overated hyped) beloved sec teams getting beat by the ACC..The new ACC is a threat to their bragging rights as to best conference.... I guess after living in this state for nearly 50 years im sick and tired of the uga/sec bias in the local media...Im loving what is shaping up as some humble pie for those folks..GT is associated with the ACC and the Bill Hartman's,Bark Madley's,Chuck Dowdle's,Tony Barnhart's of the Atlanta area will be eating some humble pie as to Who is best..I say ACC!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by ncjacket:
Interesting speculation. I'd like to play the old SEC rivals, but prefer the ACC as schools we should be associated with.

BTW, you guys do know that it would take major shifts in the SEC, a pretty steep financial penalty to the ACC and the willingness of the SEC to take us back for this to happen anyway, right? It's fun to speculate, but if anybody is holding their breath on this one the better let it out now.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Your right it is pure speculation. At the very least, Vanderbilt's move does questions their future in the SEC. Which really makes these speculations enjoyable.
 
Ncjacket...We can still imho schedule one other sec school in addition to uga every year if we really wanted to... With the inevitable addition of the final team to our conference (it WILL happen by 2005) we will split up into 2 divisions and play either 7 or 8 conference games, that still leaves 2 to 3 games that we would have open to ooc opposition..If youve listen to DB and a few other ACC officials the last few weeks you get the feeling the addition of the 12th team will be coming sooner rather than later....
 
Black Watch: You have your opinion and it's in the same saddle as your loyalty, the ACC. Nothing wrong with that. However that does explain why you refuse to answer the questions I requested your opinion on. No problem....lets go gettum in Tallahassee!
 
Stateline..I did not ever mean nor imply that the tailgate experience is better in the ACC...It probably is NOT..(I probably shouldnt have gotten into the Duke vs. Vandy,Ky.Miss.State,Miss. thing).Im mainly saying that i feel the New ACC has a better on the field Football product..Lets talk in 2014 after 10 years of the new ACC..Im willing to bet we have twice as many National Football Championships than the sec...
 
When we were in the SEC, I preferred the SEC. Since we are in the ACC, I prefer staying in the ACC. I prefer the cleaner atmosphere in the ACC to the back door dealings of recruiting in the SEC.

However, I am still upset with North Carolina and Duke for their elitist attitude in the ACC expansion.

There is nothing to say we can't schedule Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, etc. as OOC games.

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Good post ahso...As GT fans and Being in the ACC..We should root for all ACC teams and root against the sec..... I prefer scheduling Auburn and Ala. We could gain inroads in Al. in recruiting..We already do well in Florida....
 
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