Idiot On The Hive Ready To Drop UGA....

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What a gutless wonder. Even Vandy has the guts to tee it up with TENN and we've had a whole lot more success than Vandy. Others chimed in that we should move the game to the beginning of the season. I can't believe this!! A rivalry that is going down to the wire again, big game atmosphere, tradition, and a book that has been written about it for crying out loud! By gosh we lined up and slugged the pups right in the mouth SAT night and yes, they did survive but they are not ready to come trottin back over to Grant Field and tee it up anytime soon. Man, some of the wimps we have really tick me off!
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Listen you Punk

And you are a punk. I did not write that because we lost to Georgia. That same post has been written many times before, this was the first time after a UGA game (some times it was written back when we were beating UGA too).

For the rest of you, here's the post. Disagree as you see fit, but the argument is valid and not based on any emotion from a loss to UGA: (and by the way Vandy doesn't play UT the last game of the season)

I stated it and I'm standing by it:

We should drop UGA on an annual basis and/or move them to the first game of the year. Here's why again:

1) With everything going on at Tech (academics and progress toward degree), it is going to be very very difficult to compete annually at a highest level and have huge seasons. Everyone wants us to play the toughest schedule in the country (and we've got it coming for about the next ten years). The only feasible way to do both is to diminish the UGA game.

2) Everyone also seems to want us to play our old southern rivals on some revolving basis. I do too. Growing up, Auburn was just as big a game as UGA. But the fans and the enjoyment factor always made it a more fun game. If we played Tenn, Ala, UGA, and Auburn once every four years then that'd be just as much fun as only UGA annually. Then we can also schedule USC, ND, Louisville if we want to. But the way it is now, we can't. And if we played them all every four years the fan bases that attended would not be so "stupid". The excitement, big crowd would all be there without the over the top nonsense.

3) It is totally crazy for us to be playing a top ten schedule every season and to be more reasonable, something has to give somewhere. Well it isn't going to give in the ACC. See how we'll cruise through the bowls again this year, except if FSU screws us all and gets a "real" bowl. Like it or not, the ACC is the toughest conference in the country now and that's our first priority. If we allow ourselves to drop in status (something is going to give somewhere in the ACC and two more teams are likely to drop into the cellars, see the SEC, Big 12), then we won't recover. I don't want to become Duke or Stanford or Vanderbilt or Tulane.

4) And remember these top schedules don't allow us to get in any playing time for "next year's teams". We always are in a tight game. Please look around you. PLease look at the polls. Please look at the top teams. Virtually none of them play a schedule as tough as ours (annually) and all of them blow out teams often enough to get their younguns some playing time. They know that the secret is to get to the top (9 win records) and stay there, NOT play the toughest schedule. That's how you build a fan base and get those pollsters to respect you and NOT if you are actually any good or not.

Playing time is crucial for a team like ours. We do not recruit the stud players across the board that are ready to play as freshman. They need the development time and they are not getting it. This issue is hurting us.

5) If we dropped UGA annually, then we'd actually have a chance to compete in the state for fans, players, positive media attention, etc. I have been around the country a lot and our situation is unbelievable in the state. No other state has such unbalanced reporting, unbalanced support for one university over another. The incentive for downplaying Tech would just not be there anymore. (Of course, I believe we should go private and solve this problem on our own)

6) Or if we moved the UGA game to the beginning of the year, then it would become more important again nationally and we'd win more often anyway. There are plenty of rivalry games that are at the beginning instead of the end. Personally, I'd like to see us play Miami as the last game of the year. The local support would be greater, the game far more important (UNC play Duke, VPI play UVA the same weekend). Playing Miami last would give us MORE national coverage than UGA. And we'd get to play them in cold weather here OR go to their beaches when it'd be more fun. Holiday weekends in Miami would be okay with me.

Playing UGA first would make it a bigger game nationally too. There are just not enough big games at the beginning of the season. Hence why ND-Michigan and FSU-Miami are so big. Like it or not, but nationally our game doesn't rank anymore (this is where the local UGA politicians, etc. are blowing it IMO).

I also admit that we'd win more often BUT more importantly, the game wouldn't diminish either of our season's so much. Accordingly, it'd become Clean again.


The UGA faithful put on a good show that the game didn't mean anything to them anymore. Of course, they were playing for nothing and really had nothing to lose. Their season comes and goes on next Saturday and that's understandable. When both teams are good and I do believe that both teams are Top 15 quality, neither team should have that hanging over them. Putting the game early would make it even bigger.

Having said that, I laughed out loud when UGA walked on to the field. Their team sure didn't act like the game didn't matter.

I also laughed inside with the comments I heard by the drunk red and black around me in the stands (just about everyone was too drunk). It is of course a complete joke that the game didn't matter to them. They were scared to death by this game and it showed in their comments. But we need to get the state behind us more and by playing early we'd do a better job of it.

Okay flame away.
 
Then I Guess AL/AUB, FSU/FL, SC/CLEM Should...

change also. Leave the darn thing alone, it's a tradition darn it. It is played at the end because of the build up and anticipation. We wimp out then we are the biggest WIMPS in college football. Kindof like AUB cancelling on FSU.
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Re: Listen you Punk

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Okay flame away.

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No, no flame here. I have moved many squares ahead on how I use to feel about beating uga, but I am not all the way there yet on moving the game.

I have the feeling though that when I get there, I will be behind just dropping the game, period.
I use to be the biggest anti ACC proponent of all Tech fans, and wanted to hang on to the SEC roots.

However, with the recent expansion, I now feel that the sec is a distant past.
I still want to play and to beat uga, but now its only because of the uga fans. I now no longer think beating uga is the mark of a good or bad season.

To me, the sec is old news. I have definitely gotten older, and have had plenty of years to fight amongst the dawgs, but the big time drinking and fighting has gotten tiresome.

I know we lost again, but I have never gotten over it as quickly as this year.
 
Re: Listen you Punk

Don't worry. If we bring in a numbskull like Curry as AD, we will fire Tenuta and bring in Roof as DC, we will schedule at least 3 D 1AA teams every year, and probably drop ugag for Tulane.
 
Re: Then I Guess AL/AUB, FSU/FL, SC/CLEM Should...

Auburn and Alabama are in the same conference, same division.

If I was a part of FSU or Florida, I would play the toughest schedule in the country and it really wouldn't matter when they were all played. They should have none of the issues that we deal with.

Like it or not, we're playing too tough a schedule. ANd we play our rival, who has every built in advantage possible, at the end of the year. I don't mind losing as much as I hate how it takes away from our conference good deeds. It ruins all forward momentum for bowl games, recruiting, etc.

Also, I really reall want to play Bama, Auburn, Tennessee and we can't do it by playing UGA every year. But please notice, for your all powerful words, that playing those three teams is in no way wimping out.
 
Re: Listen you Punk

You may not have written based on the emotion of losing to UGAG, but it appears so.

It appears you have caved in to the propaganda that academics has permanently relegated Tech to a secondary status that we cannot consistently compete against UGAG.

UGAG aside, if Tech has to play numerous other Top 10 teams, how the hell do you expect to compete against the best of the ACC? The foolish excuse that Tech can't compete because of academics, in effect, must extend to ANY top teams that we will have to play. In fact, the ACC currently (and will continue) to present tougher games than UGAG annually.

Tech's challenge will be NOT to give in to the academic naysayers.

The "academics" excuse must be dropped. Our old traditions of being a factor on the national college football scene must continue. We must not become another Rice or Tulane. I'd prefer that GT drop football altogether.

We need to compete and find a way to recruit our share of stellar athletes as Tech has done so successfully for a century.

We need to find leaders (coaches and admins) who can compete in the big arena. At the moment, there is a major crisis of confidence in the Tech community. And its apparently spilling over from the top "leadership" into the alumni/fan community.

I could not disagree more with your suggestion, both in the content and the timing.
 
Re: Then I Guess AL/AUB, FSU/FL, SC/CLEM Should...

Personally, I think if anything our two wins versus Auburn helped recruiting if anything. I also don't think losing to UGA by 7 really hurts recruiting. Maybe we would beat UGA more if we played at the beginning of the year, but what if we lose? I feel worse after losing to UGA than any other team, and having to listen to UGA fans gloat for the rest of the regular season and on into the offseason isn't something I would look forward to. Besides..Clemson-SC, Michigan-Ohio State, Auburn-Alabama, Oregon-Oregon State and most of the other in-state rivalries(I know Michigan-Ohio State isn't actually in-state) are played at the end of the year. Miami-FSU is the only real rivalry at the beginning of the season, and that has alot to do with FSU already playing Florida in November and ABC has assured them a spot on Labor Day.
 
Re: Then I Guess AL/AUB, FSU/FL, SC/CLEM Should...

It will be forever a rivalry game. We will forever play UGA at the end of the season. Only difference nowadays is the fact that we've created divisions within the conference. We all want, including UGA fans, want to go to the conference title game. Once this was established this game became more insignificant. I believe that UGA wasn't really going to give us credit until we defeated Miami. Therefore, I pose a question to each of you. Would you rather have beaten UGA or win a game over #3 Miami? Which has more value? Quit worrying about UGAg!!!! and lets focus on our task...Win the @#$# ACC title.
Now second point:
I have a problem with a team like FSU at 7-4 going to the title game. If we are the strongest division, thats poor showing!
 
Some of you guys are actually helping him make his

point.

With the glut of rivalry games at the end, and most teams playing pansies early, we would get more attention. Colorado State/Colorado was a big game when both were OK because everyone else important was taking turns with the LA and Mich Directionals. Where would Iowa/Iowa State be at Thanksgiving? IIRC it gets solid coverage on TV in Sept.

And 'wimps' sounds good but doesn't pass the sniff test. UF dropped Miami and Auburn dropped FSU and it appears to have helped them. Certainly it didn't hurt. Do you think it is in WVU's best interest to play Marshall? Remember UF dropped Miami when they had Spurrier to focus on the CONFERENCE. They took a little heat but it didn't stick. Spurrier is no wimp, just smart.

Only FSU and BC play tough OOC opponents like us every year. I don't think it is smart to play TWO tough OOC opponents ever. Did it help us over Clemson in the polls? Obviously not. How about bowl selection time? No again.

Until football has a playoff, playing good OOC opponents has only a tiny sliver of upside to go with an avalanche of downsides.

Also, when you have less depth due to recruiting, you need to have more breather games to play subs and get healthy. How would playing a grueling schedule makes any sense.
 
Re: Listen you Punk

Freebee we have never consistantly competed against the mutts and academnics are not an excuse but the real deal and guess what the only coach we have had in my memory that has accepted the challenge of those academics is Chan Gailey.We can compete but not as easily as most others. Patience and Time is the KEY at TECH.
 
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We should drop UGA on an annual basis and/or move them to the first game of the year. Here's why again:


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I didn't read anything past this statement. He may be a punk, I don't know. But this is dumber than dirt. Are you dumber than dirt? I don't know. But that statement makes you seem pretty darn dumb in my opinion if not ignorant to 100 years of tradition and rivalry.
 
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I say we dump football period. Then we can begin the process of setting up a Soccer leviathon. I can visualize Minivans tailgating all over the campus. With our superior intellect we could rule the soccer world of the NCAA. Everybody gets a trophy. Soccer moms would be dragging their children on campus for our soccer camps and other intellectual (non-contact) versus contact sports events.

Why should we even try to compete with those bigger, dumber, tougher and meaner boys on other college campuses. Some call it rising to meet the challenge rather than running from what we fear.

Challenge brings out the best in any man/GT athlete. To deny a challenge only because we fear what may result minimizes or diminishes the worth of the man who fails to rise to the challenge. This may sound like a load of crap to some but anyone who has seen the Tech monster first hand and met the challenge to fight, go forward and excell against the challenges/efforts of Ma Tech should understand. "If it don't kill you, then it makes you stronger".

I say we play the strongest schedule period. Let all comers know that The Jackets are willing to face any challenge regardless of the outcome. To paraphrase, "It ain't the size of the "bug" in the fight, but size of the fight in the "bug". Go Jackets!
 
You'll hear the same type of rhetoric from sidewalk UGA fans about the GT game and the playing the Florida game in Jacksonville. The GT/UGA game means something and the rivalry is very strong in this state. The past few seasons many casual UGA fans want to see the Florida game to be a home/away series and dump the "neutral" Jacksonville venue.

Ludicrous. All of it. Would the GT/UGA game mean more if both teams were in the same conference? Yes, but the game is huge none-the-less. Folks who truly understand the changing of the tides in college football know that over time one team will have the upper hand in key grudge matches.

I'm not so ignorant to believe that UGA will not fall to GT a few times in a row sometime in the future, nor will Florida continue to dominate my dawgs the next 40 years either. Who would have thought that Nebraska would be in the position they are in now back in the 90's? Or who would have thought back in the 90's that USC would own the nation like they do today?

Your 'jackets have done well this season and have had accomplished a lot that will be priceless for future seasons. Patience is a virtue and sticking with your team will make future success much sweeter. You'll be able to look back and say, "remember when". Key the Alan Jackson music.

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Re: Listen you Punk

BuzzyT, I think there are alot of former players who'd disagree with you - especially the ones who took part in Tech's 8-game winning streak, the Shawn Jones gang and Little Joe and O'Leary's crews. There's this #56 guy also who would probably take issue with you, too.
 
For making that statement, midatlantech is an IDIOT and a wimp. period.

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Question: At the time that we dropped the series with Auburn, wasn't it one of the oldest consecutively played series in the nation? Had it at that time been played more often than our series with UGA? Had it and our games vs. Alabama been at one time bigger rivalries than us vs. UGA? I guess that we were pussies then also for dropping those rivalries. It doesn't matter to me whether we play them the 1st game of the season, the last game of the season, or not at all. I hate those bastards 24/7/365.
 
Re: Listen you Punk

I think this comment Texstinger is totally out of line. I can assure you if Bill is our next AD what you speak of will not happen.

Are you one of the ones still pissed because he went to Ala.? if so I think it's time to get over it. He made a decision and he took advice from his mentor, end of story.

No need to call the man a numbskull.
 
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