If you are the Big 12 -2....

77GTFan said:
If Big 12 loses Colorado and Nebraska to add TCU-BYU or Houston and promises big share of money to Texas and OU, it is hard to see how they improved themselves.

I think they stand pat for now, and over the next year they will cultivate conversation with their absolutely best potential targets - Arkansas and LSU. The four Texas schools in a Southern Division with those two, with the Oklahoma schools headed to the North would mean an ultimate improvement for the Big 12. Now, do Arkansas and LSU want to go? No. But, money talks. The Big 12 can decide whether it wants to be a player.
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Big 12 will not expand back to 12. They kept it together by promising teams a TV contract that gives everyone at least 17 mil a year. Add 2 more teams, that number goes down.
 
GTLiebs said:
Big 12 will not expand back to 12. They kept it together by promising teams a TV contract that gives everyone at least 17 mil a year. Add 2 more teams, that number goes down.
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They kept it together by making the Little 5 give their lunch money to Texas and company.

Now, it would be hilarious to me if Kansas and smaller Big 12 schools were raided leaving Texas in an unviable BCS conference.

Who am I kidding? Even if that happened, Texas could have its choice of SEC or Big 10 as either would expand in a heartbeat to get them.
 
GT_LUVER said:
I can understand BC but why VPI? I really like the rivalry we are building with them.
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I agree. I wouldn't have minded if the ACC had left it as an 11 team conference with no divisions. Each school could've had 4 permanent opponents and could've rotated the other 6 schools into the remaining 4 slots (playing all the rotating opponents FOUR times every 6 years--often enough to maintain good rivalries with everyone).

Of course now that we have 12, I wish they'd just add a ninth conference game so we can play the Noles every year (or else switch us into the Atlantic Division)
 
mm42 said:
Frankly, I wish our conference could lose VPI and BC and end up in the same situation, no championship game, full round-robin.

Divisional play sucks, not playing FSU and others annually sucks, Hokies suck, and our championship game has been nothing short of an embarassment to the league.
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The championship game has only been an embarrassment because it hasn't been in our true footprint. Jax and Tampa are not ACC territory (although Tampa is on the fringe). Charlotte is the natural choice and will sellout from now on.
 
WracerX said:
The championship game has only been an embarrassment because it hasn't been in our true footprint. Jax and Tampa are not ACC territory (although Tampa is on the fringe). Charlotte is the natural choice and will sellout from now on.
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When you think about it, it's really kind of disgusting that it took them five years to move the championship game to the most natural geographic site. Talk about gross mismanagement.

Charlotte should have been the FIRST place they tried, then go from there if it doesn't work.
 
andrew said:
When you think about it, it's really kind of disgusting that it took them five years to move the championship game to the most natural geographic site. Talk about gross mismanagement.

Charlotte should have been the FIRST place they tried, then go from there if it doesn't work.
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The little girl was banking either Miami or FSU being in the game every year to draw interest from the locals.
 
mm42 said:
Frankly, I wish our conference could lose VPI and BC and end up in the same situation, no championship game, full round-robin.

Divisional play sucks, not playing FSU and others annually sucks, Hokies suck, and our championship game has been nothing short of an embarassment to the league.
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IF FSU and Miami lived up to the expansion hype, the ACC would be in a different light.
 
lonestarjacket said:
They kept it together by making the Little 5 give their lunch money to Texas and company.

Now, it would be hilarious to me if Kansas and smaller Big 12 schools were raided leaving Texas in an unviable BCS conference.

Who am I kidding? Even if that happened, Texas could have its choice of SEC or Big 10 as either would expand in a heartbeat to get them.
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Not only that, but the Big 12 basically relinquished the right to make its own television channel, giving Texas the go-ahead for their own TV network.

Once that TV network gets up and going, the revenue disparity between Texas and the rest of the Big 12 will be huge. Texas will basically have revenue like they're independent but the conference gets them an autobid, the best of both worlds.
 
BarrelORum said:
IF FSU and Miami lived up to the expansion hype, the ACC would be in a different light.
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For about a decade FSU lived up to their expansion hype a little too much. Nobody else really challenged them for a while, and many national media types considered the ACC to be FSU and everyone else. Then they started falling off, and Miami hasn't consistently been 'the U' of old, so now all the media types are saying the ACC "needs" FSU and Miami to be dominant again for the league to have more crediblity.

I can sorta see their point, but what about GT and VPI? Can't the ACC be considered strong with the two 'Techs' dominating--why does it have to be Florida teams?

Ideally, we'd have four or more really strong teams, but I guess one of them will have to step up and wrestle a MNC away from the SEC with all that SEC-speed they have over there.
 
GTJay said:
I can sorta see their point, but what about GT and VPI? Can't the ACC be considered strong with the two 'Techs' dominating--why does it have to be Florida teams?
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No. The ACC really does need a nationally perceived powerhouse to be at the top to be considered strong. Anything else is "an off year." That won't change until Tech wins a few more ACCCG and makes a run at an MNC or two. Heck, maybe if we just win a freakin' bowl game, the impression of our offense will change.
 
GTJay said:
I can sorta see their point, but what about GT and VPI? Can't the ACC be considered strong with the two 'Techs' dominating--why does it have to be Florida teams?
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Only if Tech and VPI start to regularly beat the top of the SEC. We can't be 1-8 against UGA while winning the ACC. That will make the conference look down. And VPI can't lose to LSU by 30 and then win the title. It just looks bad.

And the ACC champ has to start winning the Orange bowl.
 
GTWannaBee said:
No. The ACC really does need a nationally perceived powerhouse to be at the top to be considered strong. Anything else is "an off year." That won't change until Tech wins a few more ACCCG and makes a run at an MNC or two. Heck, maybe if we just win a freakin' bowl game, the impression of our offense will change.
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True. I agree that a couple more ACCCs and a BCS bowl win or two would put GT into that 'nationally perceived powerhouse' category.
 
WracerX said:
Only if Tech and VPI start to regularly beat the top of the SEC. We can't be 1-8 against UGA while winning the ACC. That will make the conference look down. And VPI can't lose to LSU by 30 and then win the title. It just looks bad.

And the ACC champ has to start winning the Orange bowl.
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Good points.
 
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