Is Brent Key actually coaching?

[AmpuTECHture]

We were already spread thin there from the last staff not recruiting them.

Certainly, and now we have a patchwork OL with continual position changes and movement to account for injuries. We have young OL starting positions they have no experience in and everyone wondering why Key can't coach. We need at least 1 year to see what we got there. We are moving the ball decently despite our OL, enough to win games if our secondary had a pulse. I feel a lot of the debate on the OL is misplaced for now, and that energy would be better served looking at the defense, which doesn't have much excuse with the talent level there and also a defensive minded coach.

 

[PressManCoverage]

Certainly, and now we have a patchwork OL with continual position changes and movement to account for injuries. We have young OL starting positions they have no experience in and everyone wondering why Key can't coach. We need at least 1 year to see what we got there. We are moving the ball decently despite our OL, enough to win games if our secondary had a pulse. I feel a lot of the debate on the OL is misplaced for now, and that energy would be better served looking at the defense, which doesn't have much excuse with the talent level there and also a defensive minded coach.

Partially true.

Our young OLs that have played are Williams at RT , the position ne played last yr and Vaipulu (sp?) at OG, his natural position.

Maybe I've missed something, but tell what other Young OLs have played out of position?

 

[GTRules]

Certainly, and now we have a patchwork OL with continual position changes and movement to account for injuries. We have young OL starting positions they have no experience in and everyone wondering why Key can't coach. We need at least 1 year to see what we got there. We are moving the ball decently despite our OL, enough to win games if our secondary had a pulse. I feel a lot of the debate on the OL is misplaced for now, and that energy would be better served looking at the defense, which doesn't have much excuse with the talent level there and also a defensive minded coach.

We need a minimum of three more years of recruiting to have enough number on the OL.

 

[JoeCakeEater]

In fairness to Key, you really want a line full of upper class men who have developed under him as a redshirt, RS FR and RS SO before finally taking their spot as a starter as a RS JR. The early returns are disappointing, but there’s not a single player on the OL who he recruited, then was able to mold for 3+ seasons to prepare to own the trenches. Until he has that opportunity, you’d be stupid to run him off. He coached at Bama and is a well respected OL coach for a reason. We need to let this play out a little longer.

 

[AmpuTECHture]

Partially true.

Our young OLs that have played are Williams at RT , the position ne played last yr and Vaipulu (sp?) at OG, his natural position.

Maybe I've missed something, but tell what other Young OLs have played out of position?

I shouldn't have added the young qualifier cause it's been everybody. Lay taking snaps at multiple positions. Vaipulu has played multiple. We've had injuries to our most experienced and developed guys, so much that a former walk on (lay) is playing all over the place. Even most of the guys playing are playing hurt. I don't have all of the stats per player but there have been many more than 2 players playing outside their normal position. It's an every week occurrence.

 

[GTLiebs]

In fairness to Key, you really want a line full of upper class men who have developed under him as a redshirt, RS FR and RS SO before finally taking their spot as a starter as a RS JR. The early returns are disappointing, but there’s not a single player on the OL who he recruited, then was able to mold for 3+ seasons to prepare to own the trenches. Until he has that opportunity, you’d be stupid to run him off. He coached at Bama and is a well respected OL coach for a reason. We need to let this play out a little longer.

Assuming the former isn't the reason for the latter.

 

[rosebud]

Coaching v cupboard bare, is this every thread?

 

[JoeCakeEater]

When you’re losing it’s probably that you’re not talented, or not well coached…. So yeah.

 

[ScionOfSouthland]

Transfer portal is an overrated source of talent. Few gems and lots of nobodies that weren’t signing up for the draft anyway. I think we used it for depth myself. Don’t we have a lot of line injuries this year? Might have actually saved us from a worse fate. I don’t have any idea

 

[QuadF]

Coaching v cupboard bare, is this every thread?

The ol was always a spot considered an issue of recruiting/depth. I think the case is being made that the issue on ol isn't as simple as cpj bad or cbk bad.

 

[Wreck07]

I feel like Key is trying to create distance between himself and the rest of the staff. I mean, just check out the sideline during the game. He is the only coach wearing White and Gold. He is the only coach that doesn't show up in the #marketingmaterial. And he is the only significant coach that (1) didn't come from Collins Temple experiment and (2) has a reputation prior to coming to Tech.

If I were TStan, and I had to fire Collins, Key would make sense as a way to save some $$ and not sacrifice any of the recruiting continuity. I mean, how many Assistant HC positions exist across the NCAA? Dude expects to be HC

 

[PressManCoverage]

I feel like Key is trying to create distance between himself and the rest of the staff. I mean, just check out the sideline during the game. He is the only coach wearing White and Gold. He is the only coach that doesn't show up in the #marketingmaterial. And he is the only significant coach that (1) didn't come from Collins Temple experiment and (2) has a reputation prior to coming to Tech.

If I were TStan, and I had to fire Collins, Key would make sense as a way to save some $$ and not sacrifice any of the recruiting continuity. I mean, how many Assistant HC positions exist across the NCAA? Dude expects to be HC

I think he does that so that his Guys can easily spot him among the chaos and get whatever instruction or signals they need from him.

That's my guess, many Programs have the OC, DC, and ST Coordinator wearing a different version of the School Colors so those Players can find them quicker & easier on a crowded sideline.

Just a guess.

 

[Wreck07]

I think he does that so that his Guys can easily spot him among the chaos and get whatever instruction or signals they need from him.

That's my guess, many Programs have the OC, DC, and ST Coordinator wearing a different version of the School Colors so those Players can find them quicker & easier on a crowded sideline.

Just a guess.

Your theory is definitely the most likely scenario. I prefer to go full conspiracy theory at this point in the season

 

[BainbridgeJacket]

Most of the time you are hitting someone 12 inches away from you, I don't see us pulling a lot of backside linemen to the playside or doing anything overly exotic, what I see is a lot of guys betting beat one on one.

We don't really need dominant Blocking -- if we could just get "stalemates" from the 5 Guys on our OLine, we would average 40 pts per Game with the skill people we have.

It confuses me that we have multiple 5th & 6th yr Seniors that have lifted our weights, ate our food, received our Coaching for 12 to 15 straight Months and can't get stalemates with the DL. across from them for 70 out of 80 snaps per Game.

Time to roll the dice with younger guys, get Athletic , stay more Athletic.

I actually disagree with you on this one. I haven't seen a ton of instances where our lineman got physically beat (unlike in years past). Looking at the game last week, I saw a bunch of plays where our guys choose to double team one guy and don't pick up another until it's too late and they're out of position. I can almost understand the stunts or blitzes (hey that's why DCs get paid), but the egregious one that I posted a screenshot of was on the Sims fumble. The DE just split out wide and came free and our LT seemed like he never saw him. Just mind boggling play to me.