is Richt a PR IDIOT...?

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the Stephen Hill recruitment was very unusual and reeeeks of desperation.

1. ugag is coming off arguably the MOST disappointing year under Richt. #1 preseason ranking and the last year w/ Stafford and knowshow and blowout losses to uf, ala and losing to us at home

2. so we grab up a solid local WR that ugag was NOT offering early on

Now if I am UGAG why would I ever go "hat in hand" begging a GT commit UNLESS I was 110% sure that the recruit would jump ship to ugag.

Now there is an article where the kid is saying thanks but he would rather go to GT.

MY POINT IS WHY WOULD RICHT EVEN FIGHT THIS BATTLE?

Ugag gets 2 top wr's a year EVERYEAR!

Richt needs to get some PR lessons. It would have been smarter for him to eat that scholarship then having to take 2nd place to GT AGAIN!

ugag will probably be underdogs against us at BDS and if he loses that game he really going so start to feel the :FIREdevil:
 
Personally I think it smacks of arrogance.

Hill, at one time was interested in Georgia, so Richt assumed he would always be interested in Georgia. He knows that in the past he could play the recruits in the state all he wanted to.

Second I think they felt desperate all of a sudden so he put the word out (through the AJC) to have all the Dawg fans put unrelentless pressure on Hill. He knows that Dawg fans would act unmercilessly and that Tech fans generally aren't going to bother a kid.

So between the two, he felt assured that he'd get what he wanted in the end. I agree with you, it was a dumb move on his part and shows a bit of desperation.
 
AJC said that the reason U[sic]GA started going after him was that they hired a new WR coach(?) who went over the tapes and decided he liked the guy. So while it may have been a stupid move in the PR sense, I don't think it represents any desperation or anything. Just a case of the head guy trying to support the new guy.
 
I don't think it's that big of a PR failure. I don't think winning or losing Hill means much to UGA. They're just looking for a dude to fill a spot. I'm sure they'll find someone else to fill it.
 
gth816f said:
AJC said that the reason U[sic]GA started going after him was that they hired a new WR coach(?) who went over the tapes and decided he liked the guy. So while it may have been a stupid move in the PR sense, I don't think it represents any desperation or anything. Just a case of the head guy trying to support the new guy.
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And you believe that? Certainly, they didn't get their recruits in the end. And certainly the new coach (as well as the head coach, the offensive coordinator, the recruiting bag man, etc.) all went back to the drawing board and looked at who else was available. But to come out and say, "after a year's review, we decided we wanted this kid" is all a bit silly. To blame it on a new coach was particularly stupid IMO.
 
beej67 said:
I don't think it's that big of a PR failure. I don't think winning or losing Hill means much to UGA. They're just looking for a dude to fill a spot. I'm sure they'll find someone else to fill it.
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There's always more inmates.

Obviously, they must not have been that off base going after the kid if there was this much rumor and discussion about whether or not he would go. The kid obviously wanted to play up there at one point, and he may have still wanted to partially. I don't think this stunt is any worse then a nationally televised ass whooping while everyone wears black.
 
midatlantech said:
And you believe that? Certainly, they didn't get their recruits in the end. And certainly the new coach (as well as the head coach, the offensive coordinator, the recruiting bag man, etc.) all went back to the drawing board and looked at who else was available. But to come out and say, "after a year's review, we decided we wanted this kid" is all a bit silly. To blame it on a new coach was particularly stupid IMO.
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I'd definitely believe it. They're not "blaming" it on the new coach...the new coach saw something in the guy he liked. Coaches differ on talent all the time, and some coaches are better evaluators at different positions than others. This may be a bit of bad pub, but for Richt to ignore the opinion of this new guy might not only have been a mistake from a talent evaluation standpoint but also from a working environment standpoint. If you're not going to listen to your new coach then why did you bring him in?
 
gth816f, good point but you can't ignore the fact that the offer came right after another WR commited to OU over UGA. It couldn't just be coincidental.
 
Considering coaches can't comment on recruits until they've signed LOIs, I'd say it has nothing to do with PR.
 
Essobee said:
Oh come now, midatlantech. Surely you don't really believe Richt is the least bit arrogant.

(FWIW, I agree 100%).
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What head coach at the college level (or higher) is not arrogant? It's part of the job description - if they weren't overly confident (ie, arrogant) about their ability, they wouldn't be able to handle it. Hell, our coach takes arrogance to a whole new level.
 
cyclejacket said:
I have a subdivision development in Atlanta I'd like to sell you.
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I don't see what's so far-fetched about a story of a new coach coming in and deciding he wants a recruit that previous coaches didn't. Maybe I'm just drinking the AJC kool-aid though. Obviously everything printed in there with regards to U[sic]GA is false.
 
gth816f said:
I don't see what's so far-fetched about a story of a new coach coming in and deciding he wants a recruit that previous coaches didn't. Maybe I'm just drinking the AJC kool-aid though. Obviously everything printed in there with regards to U[sic]GA is false.
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The AJC (they are merely the means of information distribution for their allies in Athens) didn't make it up, the UGA coaching staff did. Do you honestly think their new WR coach is that much smarter than the previous one? Do you honestly believe that this happening on the heels of their two biggest WR recruits going elsewhere was a coincidence? The kool-aid you are drinking is Ugag's, not the AJC's, and that is even more revolting.
 
cyclejacket said:
The AJC (they are merely the means of information distribution for their allies in Athens) didn't make it up, the UGA coaching staff did. Do you honestly think their new WR coach is that much smarter than the previous one? Do you honestly believe that this happening on the heels of their two biggest WR recruits going elsewhere was a coincidence? The kool-aid you are drinking is Ugag's, not the AJC's, and that is even more revolting.
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Haha. Well, as someone who just witnessed the dramatic difference there can be between two coaches, I wouldn't rule it out. I wasn't aware that their two biggest WR recruits had just went elsewhere though...I agree, I'm sure that had a lot to do with it. Much better to pitch it to the kid as having to do with the coach than the people they wanted more than him not committing.
 
gth816f said:
I don't see what's so far-fetched about a story of a new coach coming in and deciding he wants a recruit that previous coaches didn't.
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It's not like Tony Ball just moved in from another program. He's been an offensive coach with U(sic)GA. He was the RB coach and was moved over to coach receivers. (Maybe that's a reason other WR recruits are going elsewhere. Hmmmm?)
 
midatlantech said:
Personally I think it smacks of arrogance.

Hill, at one time was interested in Georgia, so Richt assumed he would always be interested in Georgia. He knows that in the past he could play the recruits in the state all he wanted to.

Second I think they felt desperate all of a sudden so he put the word out (through the AJC) to have all the Dawg fans put unrelentless pressure on Hill. He knows that Dawg fans would act unmercilessly and that Tech fans generally aren't going to bother a kid.

So between the two, he felt assured that he'd get what he wanted in the end. I agree with you, it was a dumb move on his part and shows a bit of desperation.
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Well, the risk/reward analysis from Richt's standpoint was not that bad. If he makes the run at Hill and is successful at snatching him he gains a good recruit, denies us a good recruit, and puts a little salve on the festering wound of the loss to us by perpetuating the ideal that "all the top players still will always pick Georgia over Tech." Having lost Hill (if he has) he really hasn't lost a lot--maybe lost a little face, is embarrassed for a few days, but the muttnation won't hold it against him and he still has a pretty strong class coming in. It was a traditionally tawdry Georgia move, but Georgia fans won't recognize it as such. We will have a few more of these raids, and we will panic-as we did over this one--until we get a little more confident of Johnson's ability to compete in the marketplace. I personally thought we might lose Hill, but his lost isn't that great to us in real terms. In P.R. terms, maybe, and in prestige, but we would not utilize Calvin Johnson to the fullest extent of his value if he were here today. Run,run, run,run, score. I can live with that.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Well, the risk/reward analysis from Richt's standpoint was not that bad. If he makes the run at Hill and is successful at snatching him he gains a good recruit, denies us a good recruit, and puts a little salve on the festering wound of the loss to us by perpetuating the ideal that "all the top players still will always pick Georgia over Tech." Having lost Hill (if he has) he really hasn't lost a lot--maybe lost a little face, is embarrassed for a few days, but the muttnation won't hold it against him and he still has a pretty strong class coming in. It was a traditionally tawdry Georgia move, but Georgia fans won't recognize it as such. We will have a few more of these raids, and we will panic-as we did over this one--until we get a little more confident of Johnson's ability to compete in the marketplace. I personally thought we might lose Hill, but his lost isn't that great to us in real terms. In P.R. terms, maybe, and in prestige, but we would not utilize Calvin Johnson to the fullest extent of his value if he were here today. Run,run, run,run, score. I can live with that.
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Honestly, the only reason I worried was because it was the WR position. If we can keep a 4 star WR the year after we pass aound 10 times a game, I am far less worried about keeping any other position from their clutches.
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