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since the loss to klimpsum. It stayed wet too long (with losses to weak florist and a very poor second half against a much better coached Maryland team).
But with a very good half against Virginia and a good overall game against the 'Pack' (with the exception of nearly blowing the game by not being able to punch it in on two seperate series from near the goal line), maybe...just maybe...this extended learning curve of this staff is coming around.
Of course I had predicted a win over the 'Pack' (not a hard pick...we had beaten them 6 out of the last 7). It is not a miracle that we beat the pack....we SHOULD beat the pack.
It is time to end these ridiculous lowered expectations. This team is good enough to win out....we should have been a minimum of 10-2 even with the injuries; but the extended learning curve of this staff ended those hopes with unnecessary losses to klimpsum and weak florist.
Regardless, the losses are behind us. We need to stomp a mudhole in the FSU crimiNOLES. No excuses. No lowered expectations. A mudhole....period. Learning curve is over.

Also a thank you to Coach Gailey for finally showing that he does have a pulse and maybe realizes that TECH is not a retirement home.
 
This is nonsense.

There is only two types of fans that would brazenly expect any team (much less an unranked team) to beat not only a top 20 team, undefeated in the conference (that smoked several teams that beat their team) BUT ALSO beat a top 8 rival on the road.

Neither type of fan is particularly good IMHO.
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here's what i admire about beeware's post ..

beeware was consistent in pointing out that the coach lacked game time emotion, which he did in the early games.

beeware was also of the opinion that Chan Gailey has taken up the Tech job as a retirement option.

well .. since the first 4 or 5 games, the coach has come out and shown that he is indeed the head coach of this team.

beeware in this post admits that he too can see this .. so he comes out and admits that maybe he was wrong.

Chan did seem a little laid back in the beginning and i never really liked the idea that he didn't want to interfere with the co-ordinators. also didn't like it when Chan felt that BOB should be upstairs but did not assert his opinion.

But i never doubted that Chan has the fiercest desire to succeed at Tech and this is not seen as a retirement package by him. i would have felt that Chan is here to retire only if he would have brought a rocking chair to slump in at the sideline and doze off during gametime.

here's to hoping that Chan does retire though after a long success filled tenure at Tech.

besides that .. what kind of expectations are you supposed to have of a team which loses

1)it's head coach to notre dame (or so he thought)
2)key seniors like Godsey and Campbell to name a few
3)the number one tailback to academics
4)key players due to injuries

any intelligent person would look at these facts and think that it'd be great if the team did as well as last season.

what was the record last season?
 
Originally posted by GTCrew:
This is nonsense.

There is only two types of fans that would brazenly expect any team (much less an unranked team) to beat not only a top 20 team, undefeated in the conference (that smoked several teams that beat their team) BUT ALSO beat a top 8 rival on the road.

Neither type of fan is particularly good IMHO.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">No offense but we didn't beat Oklahoma, Miami, Michigan, Florida St (you get my point) on the road. NC State is a good team that is (was) in the top 10 by virtue of a weak schedule and teams losing in front of them.

Beeware is astute enough to realize that we've had 2 consecutive games of solid coaching. Heck, we outcoached 2 of the better coaching staffs in the conference. Personally, I feel the difference lies in the QB play moreso than the coaching but it is a combination of both. It will hammer home the fact if Gailey can do something this weekend that OLeary couldn't do.
 
Originally posted by ylojk8:
here's what i admire about beeware's post ..

beeware was consistent in pointing out that the coach lacked game time emotion, which he did in the early games.

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I've noticed the emotion from Gailey all along. There wasn't much need for emotion in the first 2 games (aside from a few penalties). He did show quite a bit of emotion in the Clemson game (penalties and tons of mental mistakes) and the BYU and UNC games. He doesn't really get excited for the call-in show - I think most fans have been judging him all around by his attitude on the talk show. I think you're selling him short it you're doing that. He does show fire on the sidelines when necessary (toward players, asst coaches and the officials) and he also appears to teach and give positive reinforcement when necessary.
 
I will agree with BeeWare about some aspects of this season and the NCSU game. We did enter the season with nine returning, very good, defensive starters and some of the most talented receivers in the nation.

I had predicted a 11-1 season based on our overall talent level and a new defensive coach. I think we have better material than NCSU, other than Rivers. I believe Bilbo may have more overall talent than Rivers, but Rivers has a lot more savy.

At the beginning of the season, before any games were played, I thought we would beat NCSU. As the season progressed and the defense looked lost against the short passes, I did not think we would beat NCSU.

However, at the time we beat them, the tide had turned and they were heavy favorites to win. I think it was a great accomplishment to beat them at this particular time. Everyone should be congratulated for the win.

 
'I've noticed the emotion from Gailey all along."

Same here.
Beeware has dug his hole so deep he couldn't make any other post but one that is still basically a sneer. And Contact, you're right, it's the QB play that has made the big difference. AJ has stepped up.

Football is a game between teams of players; they are not surrogates of coaches.
 
OK people!! Beeware's post does show he loves GT and sees some very positive results for the remaining games for everybody in the GT nation. We do need to beat the Criminoles especially when their ship is listing.

GO JACKETS

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I have never doubted that Beware loved the Jackets. Beware likes to yank our chain and we all like puppets responds just as Beware hoped we would. But he made an observation that I had raised earlier today that it seemed to me that CG was more hands on these last few games and he has been more animated than before. His team seems to have taken a cue and they too have played with more emotion. I just hope we can stop the seminoles this week and if we do it will give us
some tremendous momentum for the last two games.
 
Originally posted by bellyseries:
'I've noticed the emotion from Gailey all along."
Same here.
Beeware has dug his hole so deep he couldn't make any other post but one that is still basically a sneer. And Contact, you're right, it's the QB play that has made the big difference. AJ has stepped up.

Football is a game between teams of players; they are not surrogates of coaches.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I believe a lot of AJ's improvement is due to the coaches. Let's give them the credit they deserve after all the got the blame for his failure by many.
 
Contact and bellyseries, like you I have noticed passion and enthusiasm from Coach Chan all along. When there were accusations to the contrary I began to compare him with other coaches. There are all kinds and it does not matter how animated or undemonstrative you are as long as you win. There is room for both. I have been pleased with Chan's demeanor. I have seen him on more than one occasion welcome and encourage players as they come off the field. I have also seen him get the attention of players, refs and coaches. He does it in a different way than O'L (thank goodness) but he does get it done. He does not try to intimidate his players/coaches but he does let his presence be known in a way that is far better in the long run. Often times "Deep water runs still". I don't believe he panics but he indeed responds and makes adjustments.
Thanks for your civil words beeware, I for one have never doubted your love and knowledge of Georgia Tech football, but only questioned your methods and sometimes your judgments. I do admire your tenacity and your courage to face the guns that shoot at you and not to cower in fear. I am glad you are here you old Moss Back Democrat..
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{{Sorry bellyseries}}
 
Some good points bw, but please explain the reason for last seasons record? Was that a learning curve for O'L? Thought he was here more than a year. Injuries? Nothing compared to this year. Please explain last year. Oh forgot you just throw out bs with too much fenoit in you to respond.
 
I will say this you can hack on O'leary for leaving us but w/ all the wins over ugag and building our program from the ground up gives him a pass on last years coaching woes.

I heard a comentator state regarding spurrier "sometimes the players have heard the same stuff for so long it just gets old"

O'leary left us in a helluva lot better shape than when he got here.

Beeware seems to have extremely high expectations. He may have those same expectations of himself.

I tend to agree we should not have lost to Clem's son or weak florist.

Those losses probably could have been avoided if CG would have taken a more active role in the offense from the beginning. However we probably prevented that when we shoved B'OB down CG's throat.

Well all that is ancient history. If we can win our we can have a VERY SPECIAL year. And I tell you if we can win Saturday that may be enough.
 
Actually lawbee I disagree on the offense. It seems to me that it took some time to figure out what AJ does well and what type of offense he is capable of running best. At the beggining of the year when it looked like we had a very strong running game the I probably seemed like the best way to go. After the injuries it was obvious we needed to make changes but AJ wasn't making the plays/reads he needed to. As a natural course we finally found his comfort zone. Don't know if it was Chan or B'OB or a combination but it seems to be clicking finally.

Of course, if it doesn't continue Sat this whole board will turn again, but personally I've like what I've seen from Chan from the start.
 
If you have a copy of the BYU or Clemson game I recommend you watching them over again.

Our offense was pathetic. If we would have played a MD type teams there would have been a faster BLOWOUT result. We had TONY doing a one man show. That is not a running attack. That is one young man's athletic ability carrying a team.

With the talent on this team it is unbelievable taht Tony had to carry the ball SO many times versus BYU.

Kinda makes you wonder who our starting RB would be if our offense would have been developed in spring or the first couple of games.

Most people have commented about the stark differences b/n pre and post MD.

Keep in mind that BYU had 50+ put on them by Air Force.

just some thoughts IMO
 
Originally posted by beeware:
since the loss to klimpsum. It stayed wet too long (with losses to weak florist and a very poor second half against a much better coached Maryland team).
But with a very good half against Virginia and a good overall game against the 'Pack' (with the exception of nearly blowing the game by not being able to punch it in on two seperate series from near the goal line), maybe...just maybe...this extended learning curve of this staff is coming around.
Of course I had predicted a win over the 'Pack' (not a hard pick...we had beaten them 6 out of the last 7). It is not a miracle that we beat the pack....we SHOULD beat the pack.
It is time to end these ridiculous lowered expectations. This team is good enough to win out....we should have been a minimum of 10-2 even with the injuries; but the extended learning curve of this staff ended those hopes with unnecessary losses to klimpsum and weak florist.
Regardless, the losses are behind us. We need to stomp a mudhole in the FSU crimiNOLES. No excuses. No lowered expectations. A mudhole....period. Learning curve is over.

Also a thank you to Coach Gailey for finally showing that he does have a pulse and maybe realizes that TECH is not a retirement home.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Learning curve I'm beginning to see clearly now. Last years team coached by coach O'Leary and coach Mac and others were in a learning curve is why we lost so many games encluding the ones we should stomp a MUDHOLE in this year. Yeah that helps me to understand why we did not do so good last year. Learning curve It all makes sense now. Thank you BW for your great insight on this subject.
 
Contact, you totally misunderstood my post. Beeware says he expects the Jackets to win out. I think that is an unreasonable expectation. Sorry for the confusion, I was not talking about the last two games, I am talking about the next two games.

Would a reasonable fan EXPECT us to win out against the remaining schedule?
 
What Law said.

The first part of the season we were a completely different team. The approach was sort of timid and grasping and basically Tony, Tony, Tony. Now, rather suddenly, we have a totally different, and well revised, approach and A GAMEPLAN! This adjustment, going from the initial effort to where we are now, is tremendous. Let's keep this staff, these guys are crazy!
 
Originally posted by beeware:
Of course I had predicted a win over the 'Pack' (not a hard pick...we had beaten them 6 out of the last 7)
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">By this logic we will inevitably lose to FSU.
 
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