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Bullshit. He didn't earn the position. You aren't at practice everyday, nor does you playing lower level football make you some sort of expert on who should be playing at GT. Sims has a much better arm than Graham. It has been apparent from day 1. Graham didn't really earn the starting position last season. Lucas Johnson did but was injured twice. He had his shot.
What he’s shown you that sims has a better arm than graham? All I see are people that hate Paul Johnson and decide that they hate every kid that he recruited
 

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Not everyone can be great at every level in every aspect of life; people hit ceilings and/or max potential at all things. It isn’t sad; it’s a universal truth.
Universal truths can't be sad? Huh?
 

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So you think there isn't a difference in 45.1% completion rate vs. 64.6% completion rate, 6 y/a vs. 8.6 y/a, and 109.0 rating to a 146.6 rating? Are you only looking at TD/INT rate?

Here's a better comparison for you. Freshman year for 3 different qb's:

QB A - 108/188 (57.4%) for 1342 yards, 7.1 y/a, 7 TD, 13 INT, 115.9 rating.
QB B - 87/193 (45.1%) for 1164 yards, 6.0 y/a, 12 TD, 7 INT, 109.0 rating.
QB C - 99/177 (55.9%) for 1346 yards, 7.6 y/a, 8 TD, 10 INT, 123.4 rating.

here's rushing stats too:

QB A - 95 attempts for 248 yards, 2.6 average, 3 TD
QB B - 99 attempts for 290 yards, 2.9 average, 3 TD
QB C - 81 attempts for 277 yards, 3.4 average, 4 TD

And here's a hint. These stats for QB A and B were for 10 and 11 games. QB C has only played 7 so far.
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing him at Ga Southern.
He did play at Fitzgerald with JD King, who is at Southern (via Oklahoma State) and is out for the year with a torn ACL.
Southern's going to need a QB next year with Werts finishing up, so ...
 

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What he’s shown you that sims has a better arm than graham? All I see are people that hate Paul Johnson and decide that they hate every kid that he recruited
To me he's been able to make the short/intermediate throws much better and been able to find 2nd, 3rd option receivers. James never could make the touch passes, only throw the deep ball, and seemed to only look for one target. And nobody here is hating on James from what I've seen. I appreciate everything he's given the program and wish we could find a place to use him but it seems he has his mind made up to play QB and that's what he wants to pursue, so I wish him luck.
 

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To me he's been able to make the short/intermediate throws much better and been able to find 2nd, 3rd option receivers. James never could make the touch passes, only throw the deep ball, and seemed to only look for one target. And nobody here is hating on James from what I've seen. I appreciate everything he's given the program and wish we could find a place to use him but it seems he has his mind made up to play QB and that's what he wants to pursue, so I wish him luck.
He also threw way too many post route balls to a single high safety demonstrating that he has very low football IQ.
 

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What he’s shown you that sims has a better arm than graham? All I see are people that hate Paul Johnson and decide that they hate every kid that he recruited
Dude, you are literally the first one bringing Paul Johnson into this thread. There is actually a Paul Johnson thread on the front page you can post in.
 

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So you think there isn't a difference in 45.1% completion rate vs. 64.6% completion rate, 6 y/a vs. 8.6 y/a, and 109.0 rating to a 146.6 rating? Are you only looking at TD/INT rate?

Here's a better comparison for you. Freshman year for 3 different qb's:

QB A - 108/188 (57.4%) for 1342 yards, 7.1 y/a, 7 TD, 13 INT, 115.9 rating.
QB B - 87/193 (45.1%) for 1164 yards, 6.0 y/a, 12 TD, 7 INT, 109.0 rating.
QB C - 99/177 (55.9%) for 1346 yards, 7.6 y/a, 8 TD, 10 INT, 123.4 rating.

here's rushing stats too:

QB A - 95 attempts for 248 yards, 2.6 average, 3 TD
QB B - 99 attempts for 290 yards, 2.9 average, 3 TD
QB C - 81 attempts for 277 yards, 3.4 average, 4 TD

And here's a hint. These stats for QB A and B were for 10 and 11 games. QB C has only played 7 so far.
I would rather go with QB B. As you can see, while he has a lower completion percentage, he has thrown the least amount of INTs. Turnovers are momentum killers, especially from the QB position.
 

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So you think there isn't a difference in 45.1% completion rate vs. 64.6% completion rate, 6 y/a vs. 8.6 y/a, and 109.0 rating to a 146.6 rating? Are you only looking at TD/INT rate?

Here's a better comparison for you. Freshman year for 3 different qb's:

QB A - 108/188 (57.4%) for 1342 yards, 7.1 y/a, 7 TD, 13 INT, 115.9 rating.
QB B - 87/193 (45.1%) for 1164 yards, 6.0 y/a, 12 TD, 7 INT, 109.0 rating.
QB C - 99/177 (55.9%) for 1346 yards, 7.6 y/a, 8 TD, 10 INT, 123.4 rating.

here's rushing stats too:

QB A - 95 attempts for 248 yards, 2.6 average, 3 TD
QB B - 99 attempts for 290 yards, 2.9 average, 3 TD
QB C - 81 attempts for 277 yards, 3.4 average, 4 TD

And here's a hint. These stats for QB A and B were for 10 and 11 games. QB C has only played 7 so far.
But I am going to guess that only one of those QB's spent most of his time playing behind the worst OL I have ever seen on the flats.
 

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No, that’s why everyone hates Graham. Graham put up phenomenal numbers for a first year starter, especially with the short amount of pics.
No one "hates" Graham or any of our players, I'd hope. Most of us think Sims is a better QB for us and GoGaTech showed you the stats to back that up.

But again, you are literally the one making this all about "CPJ's guys" vs "CGC's guys because you're mad that we don't run the triple option anymore. Everyone else is just wishing him well.
 

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No one "hates" Graham or any of our players, I'd hope. Most of us think Sims is a better QB for us and GoGaTech showed you the stats to back that up.

But again, you are literally the one making this all about "CPJ's guys" vs "CGC's guys". Everyone else is just wishing him well.
On the contrary, whenever I said we should put in graham, after sims throws 3 INTs and 2 fumbles, I get crowned as the “troll.” Graham could’ve easily been a great QB here, but CGC is keeping his head so far up his you know what, that he has to do it with HIS guys, not necessarily the BEST guys. Hamilton even compares himself to graham.
 

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No one "hates" Graham or any of our players, I'd hope. Most of us think Sims is a better QB for us and GoGaTech showed you the stats to back that up.

But again, you are literally the one making this all about "CPJ's guys" vs "CGC's guys because you're mad that we don't run the triple option anymore. Everyone else is just wishing him well.
No. We have spent the last 2+ years with people talking about how bad Johnson's recruits are and how bad the current roster is because of Johnson's recruits.
 
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