Kenyatta Watson II Getting Noticed

gtphd said:
Thurston Howell III implies that Thurston Howell Sr and Thurston Howell Jr (or II) are both still alive.
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Emily Post says you're wrong. You have the option to drop a suffix after a death but nobody changes from one suffix to another.

https://emilypost.com/advice/mens-names-and-titles

A man with the same name as his father uses “Jr.” after his name as long as his father is alive. His father may use the suffix “Sr.” for “senior.” The son may either drop the suffix after his father’s death or, if he prefers, retain it so that he won’t be confused with his late father.
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gtleviathan said:
Emily Post says you're wrong. You have the option to drop a suffix after a death but nobody changes from one suffix to another.

https://emilypost.com/advice/mens-names-and-titles
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So here's what I'm wondering about: so if Emily Post's mom was also named Emily Post and her grandma was also named Emily Post then which one has to die first to make Emily Post, Jr. Emily Post II because that's a lot of stationary to reprint?
 
gtleviathan said:
Emily Post says you're wrong. You have the option to drop a suffix after a death but nobody changes from one suffix to another.

https://emilypost.com/advice/mens-names-and-titles
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LawProse Lesson #120 — LawProse

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  • 1937: “At the death of his father, he is no longer junior.” Margery Wilson, Pocket Book of Etiquette 105 (1937).

  • 1938: “After the death of the father, the son drops the ‘junior’ from his name.” Mrs. Cornelius Beeckman, Common Sense in Etiquette 72 (1938).

  • 1955: “A man is ‘Mark Strand Jr.’ only while his father is alive and, of course, he bears his father’s exact name.” Nancy Loughridge, Dictionary of Etiquette 105 (1955).

  • 1963: “[A] man is ‘junior’ only while his father is alive and, of course, only if he bears the identical name.” Amy Vanderbilt, New Complete Book of Etiquette 594 (1963).

  • 1990: “Names are traditionally numbered only among the living.” Judith Martin, Miss Manners’ Guide for the Turn-of-the-Millenium 60 (1990).

  • 2003: “When the father dies, the son usually drops the ‘Jr.’ within two years’ time, since there is no longer a confusion between the two men — unless, of course, the man is the son of a very famous man . . . .” Letitia Baldridge, Letitia Baldridge’s New Manners for New Times 653 (2003).

The idea of moving from III to Jr. is obviously less common because there are fewer III's in that situation, but that's the rule (would you have a III without a Jr.?) It's called being promoted.
 
I thought Kenyatta played well in the spring game, looking forward to seeing him breakout this season.
 
THWG247 said:
I thought Kenyatta played well in the spring game, looking forward to seeing him breakout this season.
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Can we get back on topic?

I pulled the birth packet from when my son was born and there is a section there for generation title. So if he has "II" on his birth certificate, that likely needs to stay even if his father passes as it would be part of his legal name.

The hiccup would be if he's a dual citizen. At least in Italy, it's illegal for the father and son to have the same name, and comuni will decline to register the birth of someone who does that.
 
gtphd said:
Can we get back on topic?

I pulled the birth packet from when my son was born and there is a section there for generation title. So if he has "II" on his birth certificate, that likely needs to stay even if his father passes as it would be part of his legal name.

The hiccup would be if he's a dual citizen. At least in Italy, it's illegal for the father and son to have the same name, and comuni will decline to register the birth of someone who does that.
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Yeah, that was the other problem I had. I honestly didn't consider that there may be folks that use a suffix when that's not their legal name. I can't imagine that's very common these days.
 
CSB: I'm a Jr. and my dad has been dead around 25 years. All my legal docs still say Jr. (and I still sign that way) because whenever I attempt to drop it - accidentally or on purpose - (passport, drivers license, etc.) the powers that be question it and make me add it back.
 
gtphd said:
lawprose.org

LawProse Lesson #120 — LawProse

lawprose.org lawprose.org

  • 1937: “At the death of his father, he is no longer junior.” Margery Wilson, Pocket Book of Etiquette 105 (1937).

  • 1938: “After the death of the father, the son drops the ‘junior’ from his name.” Mrs. Cornelius Beeckman, Common Sense in Etiquette 72 (1938).

  • 1955: “A man is ‘Mark Strand Jr.’ only while his father is alive and, of course, he bears his father’s exact name.” Nancy Loughridge, Dictionary of Etiquette 105 (1955).

  • 1963: “[A] man is ‘junior’ only while his father is alive and, of course, only if he bears the identical name.” Amy Vanderbilt, New Complete Book of Etiquette 594 (1963).

  • 1990: “Names are traditionally numbered only among the living.” Judith Martin, Miss Manners’ Guide for the Turn-of-the-Millenium 60 (1990).

  • 2003: “When the father dies, the son usually drops the ‘Jr.’ within two years’ time, since there is no longer a confusion between the two men — unless, of course, the man is the son of a very famous man . . . .” Letitia Baldridge, Letitia Baldridge’s New Manners for New Times 653 (2003).

The idea of moving from III to Jr. is obviously less common because there are fewer III's in that situation, but that's the rule (would you have a III without a Jr.?) It's called being promoted.
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Oddly enough, I find this very interesting.
 
wishbone said:
Just put FREAK on his back. Geez.
Looking forward to the season KW!
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There is a quiet momentum building as we get closer to the first game. I know we are all tired of the comparisons and so am I but I think there is an important one to be made. This time last year, there was so much hype and noise and talk and strutting but this year is more silent seriousness.

An ocean of empty words that meant nothing has given way to a near absence of words that means everything.
 
goldbybirth said:
Would you autists cut it out
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ClubSeats said:
I went to Burger King and ordered a Whopper and a Whopper Jr. After eating the Whopper, I was shocked to reach into the bag and find that my Whopper Jr had turned into a Whopper. Thank you Emily Post for performing this miracle!!
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ClubSeats said:
I went to Burger King and ordered a Whopper and a Whopper Jr. After eating the Whopper, I was shocked to reach into the bag and find that my Whopper Jr had turned into a Whopper. Thank you Emily Post for performing this miracle!!
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Did you just assume its identity?
 
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