Key Signs A Punter - Shanahan Toast?

ramble on said:
My thing is why waste a scholly on a kicker that can’t do both really well? All the videos of this kid and there’s only one field goals and it’s a PAT. Butker single footedly won so many games for us!
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New poster here... He's a PWO punter but did everything for his high school. His hudl video of his season highlights is on his Twitter and shows more than just a PAT:

I think both he and Shanahan can learn from each other and maybe the new STC decides to use both situationally. Hopefully we won't have to punt much. :fingersx:
 
stinger78 said:
FWIW, my take is the cut-blocking rule change in 2016 limited our ability to seal the edge with the smaller A-backs we recruited, and it made us less efficient there as a whole, and far more dependent on the inside veer on 4th and short. The result is we were more predictable.
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I'm not sure that's the case. IIRC nearly all 4ths with JfN & Tevin were inside veer, qb dive, or bb dive.
 
At least we may get a guy who can back the opponent up inside the 10.
 
TampaBayJacket said:
Every time I watch one of these videos about "never punting" they always over simplify one game situation that never seems to get addressed and ....

They use overall averages. But if your O is below average, and your D is above average, that would skew the curve I would think. Your team isn't the average team. Your opponent may not be the average team. The play of one team or the other may be better or worse than their own average that day.

The nice thing about CPJ was that you could almost always count on positive yards each play.
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Vespinae said:
I'm really surprised punting hasn't been fully optimized by now. It seems like with practice you could rugby kick and aim for the pylon from anywhere on the field, maybe shading to the outside and just try to kick it out of bounds. I love a good pinning inside the 5, but it seems like there's a better way to control it.
Similarly for kickoffs, I'd at least try having my kicker aim for the chest of the closest opponent and kick it as hard as he can. I'd guess you'd get the ball back more often than they did at midfield, and if you miss you likely give them the ball at the 35, which isn't a huge deal IMO.
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I have thought that on punts you could maybe hit one of their players running with their backs to the ball and get a fumble.
 
QuadF said:
I'm not sure that's the case. IIRC nearly all 4ths with JfN & Tevin were inside veer, qb dive, or bb dive.
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Most were but there were a lot of edge runs, too. They had to account for it. The issue was after the rule they knew it was going inside. Just my opinion though.
 
ramble on said:
So we wasted a scholarship on a kicker that doesn’t kick field goals?
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Quite a few teams, college and pro, have their punter also doing kickoffs but someone else doing FG’s. A lot of times punters have stronger legs and accuracy is not an issue.
 
CyberianTigress said:
New poster here... He's a PWO punter but did everything for his high school. His hudl video of his season highlights is on his Twitter and shows more than just a PAT:

I think both he and Shanahan can learn from each other and maybe the new STC decides to use both situationally. Hopefully we won't have to punt much. :fingersx:
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Are you his mother?
 
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