Kirby Smart Needs to Out-Saban Saban

[LegendaryGT]

http://preseason.stassen.com/over-under/all-teams.html

It's crazy to see that Alabama is still underrated all-time even though they haven't had any real room to exceed expectations for the last 8 years. But yeah Kirby Smart knows how to do this.

 

[Flywheel]

It's crazy to see that Alabama is still underrated all-time even though they haven't had any real room to exceed expectations for the last 8 years. But yeah Kirby Smart knows how to do this.

It was more about proof that UGA's stock rises in the offseason. They're not the worst (holy crap, Texas) but they're among the elite when it comes to being overranked.

 

[LegendaryGT]

It was more about proof that UGA's stock rises in the offseason. They're not the worst (holy crap, Texas) but they're among the elite when it comes to being overranked.

Yes, of course, I was just adding the comparison to Alabama. UGA football is deadly ill with Saban fever right now and so how they do in comparison to Alabama is all that will matter to them until they are clawing their own eyes out of their skulls at the end of another 9 win season.

 

[GTTerrific]

Thats right, the fools ran off the best coach in UGAG history to hire Junior Samples

 

[BuzzCzar]

Its true!

 

[18in32]

http://preseason.stassen.com/over-under/all-teams.html

Need more analysis here -- the most overrated teams according to that table are the powerhouses of college football (excepting a few like Alabama) -- so who wouldn't prefer to be overrated rather than underrated on that model?

Everyone knows that the polls are lagging indicators that reward past success and continuity. That's the same for all similar endeavors. Predicting the future is hard; reviewing the past is easy.

 

[Dhatura]

"Several of Saban’s assistants from years past are now head coaches at premier programs, including Jim McElwain, Jimbo Fisher and Will Muschamp.

Stopped reading right there.

 

[JJacket]

The only way to be overrated is to be rated highly to begin.

 

[covingtonjacket]

Everyone knows that the polls are lagging indicators that reward past success and continuity. That's the same for all similar endeavors. Predicting the future is hard; reviewing the past is easy.

This. Also recruiting rankings must play a part too in determining who is highly rated to begin the season. Just look at ugag. For them, there is nothing else (definitely not past success) to base high beginning rankings on. They are not pre-season national champs 36 seasons and counting for nothing.

 

[aeromech]

I'm surprised the picture of him tippie toeing in the picture with a recruit hasn't shown up here.

 

[gtGreg768b]

It's crazy to see that Alabama is still underrated all-time even though they haven't had any real room to exceed expectations for the last 8 years. But yeah Kirby Smart knows how to do this.

Kirby Smart needs to eat a dick

 

[Techbert]

Kirby Smart better forget Saban and learn to out-Johnson Johnson.

 

[JJacket]

"We gonna kick your ass Kirby"

 

[donsue]

I wonder if any program has come close to squandering as much top-tier talent in their history as Georgia.

 

[donsue]

Georgia are a fine football team...I ought to know....I beat their ass 8 times in a row!

 

[olgoldandwhite]

Georgia, LSU, Texas, USC, Ohio State, those are five places that can go on an Alabama-type run.
One of these things is not like the other...

Four of those five do not have an Urban Meyer.

 

[floridajacket]

What the ESS EEE SEE collectively doesn't understand is just how much of an outlier Saban is. If Saban stayed at LSU, he would not have had the same level of success.

Saban has had his success because of his first recruiting class with Julio Jones and others. He spent so much more time than other coaches doing high school visits during the off-season. The NCAA had a loophole of coaches visiting high schools and "running into" recruits. The NCAA ended this practice with the "Saban rule," but the Saban had two recruiting classes by the time who would win championships 3 out of 4 years.

https://www.si.com/college-football...as-nick-saban-so-successful-recruiting-trail#

Saban is the top coach in the nation or at worst top two with Urban Meyer. But winning championships 3/4 years is not the kind of success any coach has to sell. That's why it's so hard to "out-Saban Saban."

 

[LegendaryGT]

What the ESS EEE SEE collectively doesn't understand is just how much of an outlier Saban is. If Saban stayed at LSU, he would not have had the same level of success.

Saban has had his success because of his first recruiting class with Julio Jones and others. He spent so much more time than other coaches doing high school visits during the off-season. The NCAA had a loophole of coaches visiting high schools and "running into" recruits. The NCAA ended this practice with the "Saban rule," but the Saban had two recruiting classes by the time who would win championships 3 out of 4 years.

https://www.si.com/college-football...as-nick-saban-so-successful-recruiting-trail#

Saban is the top coach in the nation or at worst top two with Urban Meyer. But winning championships 3/4 years is not the kind of success any coach has to sell. That's why it's so hard to "out-Saban Saban."

This is a damn fine post.

 

[18in32]

Saban is the top coach in the nation or at worst top two with Urban Meyer.

It has been a while since I've seen anyone suggest Saban isn't the undisputed best coach in America.

 

[samsgt02]

It has been a while since I've seen anyone suggest Saban isn't the undisputed best coach in America.

Urban Meyer has had two undefeated seasons he didn't win a national championship. One with Utah, the other in his first year with Ohio State (bowl ban). Add 3 national titles on top of that! 2-2 vs Saban head to head.