Lessons Learned Tonight

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77GTFan

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I think we have learned:

1. We have been below average at QB since Godsey, and still are below average. If TB is better than Booker and Nesbitt, then we will be below average for a couple of more seasons.

2. The OL is not strong.

3. The pass defense is terrible.

4. Steve Logan is a great OC - Ryan looked like he was all world tonight. The blitz did not get to him. If our blitzes don't work or if we back off them, we have no Plan B on defense.

5. The key games are UVA, Md, and UNC. Win those three along with Duke and Army and we have another winning season. Clemson, VT, Miami, and UGA are probably better than we are, but maybe there will be an upset or two. We have played two bad teams really well and one good, not great team, poorly.

6. ESPN radio really blasted the behavior of our students in the second half as classless - the worst behavior they had seen covering NCAA football. This is not good press - students can do better.
 
The primary lesson learned tonight is that this team is vintage Chan. That is, mediorcre to aveage at best.
 
No, as it has been stated, experienced qb's and good OL's give us problems on defense. Bennet has work to do, but he'll be ok. I'm more worried that we don't mix it up more when they stack the box. When we did on the first drive, we moved the ball, but on 2nd and long we were calling runs and ending up in 3rd and long.
 
3. The pass defense is terrible.

One specific corner has no reason to be on the field, but I think we had to leave him in tonight since Word-Daniels was ill. Our weakness on D is exposed and I expect teams to go after that corner in every game

6. ESPN radio really blasted the behavior of our students in the second half as classless - the worst behavior they had seen covering NCAA football. This is not good press - students can do better.[/quote]

The boos were deserved. The officiating was the worst I've ever seen. For every BC O-Line holding they called, there were 2 they didn't call. Part of the reason we couldn't ever get to Ryan. He had all day to throw and just picked us a part.

The PI by Guyton was horrible
The 1st down by Smith horrible

There were almost 200 yards in yellow flags in this game and most of them were not in our favor.

The crowd was extremely frustrated this game was difficult to watch from the stands.

Boo all you want, but don't throw stuff on the field.
 
Taylor was not the problem tonight...I actually thought he played well considering the pathetic job the referees did. One of the worst games I've ever seen by the refs. Taylor didn't turn it over, and was constantly put in bad situations 3rd and long because we couldn't run the ball worth a crap. Not to mention all the dropped passes. Don't really understand why people are bashing him. I guess it's just the morons that don't understand football. If the team loses, it's obviously the QB's fault....

Yeah....
 
I guess our fears about the receiving corps dropping the ball in practice have come true.
 
77, Taylor was 20/39 with 200+ yds. and NO Reggieish ints/fumbles, ok? He had 4 different receivers with 4 or 5 catches each, including a modern day Tech record FIVE completions to our tight end!!! Toss in a few drops and a bad call to boot. Great performance? Obviously not. The reason we lost? Even more obviously not. BTW, Joe and Godsey's numbers weren't Heisman material either at this very early stage. THWG
 
77GTFan said:
I think we have learned:
6. ESPN radio really blasted the behavior of our students in the second half as classless - the worst behavior they had seen covering NCAA football. This is not good press - students can do better.
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:ugh: Wow, are they sensationalizing this enough? Wow booing and throwing stuff boo hoo...

I guess they didn't hear about Rutgers last week.
 
GoldZ said:
77, Taylor was 20/39 with 200+ yds. and NO Reggieish ints/fumbles, ok? He had 4 different receivers with 4 or 5 catches each, including a modern day Tech record FIVE completions to our tight end!!! Toss in a few drops and a bad call to boot. Great performance? Obviously not. The reason we lost? Even more obviously not. BTW, Joe and Godsey's numbers weren't Heisman material either at this very early stage. THWG
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It is not unreasonable to expect better play from the quarterback position. Bennett looks like he needs more experience, my problem is that he is already a Junior; so, about the time he starts playing well he's going to graduate. Far too many of those completions last night were screens and 2-5 yard passes, nothing to stretch the defense and open up the run. Bennett looks like he'll be a good quarterback in a couple of years. Maybe not the reason we lost; but he didn't do much to put us in a position to win either.
 
GoldZ said:
77, Taylor was 20/39 with 200+ yds. and NO Reggieish ints/fumbles, ok? He had 4 different receivers with 4 or 5 catches each, including a modern day Tech record FIVE completions to our tight end!!! Toss in a few drops and a bad call to boot. Great performance? Obviously not. The reason we lost? Even more obviously not. BTW, Joe and Godsey's numbers weren't Heisman material either at this very early stage. THWG
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I don't know about that. I posted before the game that BC's pass defense did not look good at all. Some of it was on Taylor, some of it on the receivers and maybe even some of it on Bond's play calling, but I think we could have done better than having WF and NC State gain 100 more yards in the passing game than us.

I did like the field goal drive though (until the last set of downs) with three completions to Demaryius Thomas including one big one. I think that will become our big play this year to take advantage of opponents loading up the box.
 
The only two things I got out of this game:

1. BC loaded up the box and keyed on TC to force our offense to beat them passing. We couldn't do it.
Bond-D+ the adjustments didn't come soon enough and the offense wasn't prepared for this
O-line- C- (run D-/pass C) the middle of the line was owned by BC. Occaisionally, we got the corners on runs. The pass protection was fair.
TB - B- I thought he made some nice throws under pressure. He moved well. It looked like he really made 2 poor audibles. He only made one bad throw that should have been intercepted. The scamble at our ten with the missed dump to TC and the scramble with the 40 yard throw into the 15th row of 120 reminded me it could be alot worse.
Receivers-C- there were a few nice catches but for the most part too little too late
2. Our defense stuffs the run, puts pressure on the QB, forces you to throw quickly to a spot and makes the receivers handle a tough ball. They could do that all night long.
Ryan A+-Mr. Ryan sir, I apologize for my unknowing challenge of your man-hood in any previous posts. I will watch your manliness with humilty on Sundays.
O-Line B+ That is only if you include the back judge as part of the offensive line.
Receivers A- They were disciplined and caught some tought balls. I will make no negative comments about specific personnel issues that reminded me of HS game films of 16-year-olds trying to cover Calvin.
 
I can make it much simpler:

1. Our passing game is poorly conceived and poorly executed. Six years of NCAA stats since Gailey has been here establish that. Simple minded fans can blame Suggs/Ball/Bennett/NextGuy, but the problem is a former UF quarterback who is stuck in the 1970s. You don't win in modern college football without a passing game.

2. We have no talent at cornerback.
 
Weakness in the secondary is not a new concern; it was just highlighted with BC being an extremely good passing team.
 
77, what a typical sour grapes post. TB is on the right track. Screw the announcers on ESPN radio. The TV announcers were all over that fishy PI call on Gary Guyton (which should be acclaimed as one of the best defensive plays in any scope, this year). I don't know if you were at the game, but the fans were great. Loud and didn't give up until about 6 minutes left in the 4th. I am typically very critical of our fans and get ticked when they sit and generally seem out of it. Not Saturday night though. The secondary was fine - they made great open-field tackles, dealt with being a man down and having to use Pat Clark, Avery Roberson got shaken up - BC just made some great plays. That long fade was unbelievable.

I am more concerned with John Bond's game plan. He likes to run, but abandoned it early. He designed his plan into their hands. He let himself get wrapped up in their strengths and tried to trick them instead of playing to our strengths and just beating them.

BC is a very good team, but the penalties were extraordinarily lopsided. That's the breaks, I'm sure we'll have some games where this works in our favor. Bottom line is, we lost a game. Big whoop. We still get to play again. We haven't been banished from college football. Cheer up.
 
Our student section as a whole was incredibly classless. At least four separate occasions things were thrown on the field. No excuse for that. One time someone threw something at Matt Ryan DURING a play. I'm surprised we weren't penalized somehow for that.
 
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