Look, this is what happened.

ThisIsAtlanta said:
In order of critical importance:

1. Two blocks in the back - both of which called back potential touchdowns. If that doesn't happen, we score 35.
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Nope, we ended up scoring on the first one later in the drive anyway. And the second one clearly broke Orwin free.

So, I don't see us getting any more points due to those plays.
 
coit said:
Nope, we ended up scoring on the first one later in the drive anyway. And the second one clearly broke Orwin free.

So, I don't see us getting any more points due to those plays.
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Yeah, but if we do that, it's a 15-second drive, not a 10-minute one. It probably cost us 2 possessions.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
In order of critical importance:

1. Two blocks in the back - both of which called back potential touchdowns. If that doesn't happen, we score 35.

2. UVA's DL knew our snap count and got the jump on the whole play with stupid regularity. We burned them for it just once in the 3rd quarter on 4th and 10 before we converted with an a-back pass to Orwin. We need to find a way to fix this desperately, because MD did it too, in addition to reading our pull blocking (i'm not sure if UVA tried to replicate this or had any success). You can rest assured that this is part of the blueprint everyone else will copy for the rest of the season.

3. UVA's safeties got into OUR backfield. Multiple pitches disrupted, multiple tackles made behind the LOS. BY SAFETIES. We could not for the life of us hit the pass plays to exploit this, and when we did, see #1. This is the second part of the blueprint everyone else will copy for the rest of the season.

4. We punted when we shouldn't have. We were 3-3 on fourth down conversions and desperately needed to score to win the game. We should have drawn them offsides (we probably could have done this at will) and at least tried to convert the resulting 4th downs. There was absolutely no hope of us winning that game without a score. To boot (no pun intended), our kicking game was MISERABLE.

And for those of you hating on the defense:

Our defense only gave up 24 points and scored 7 of their own. Dispite giving up gaudy numbers, they put us in the position to need only 3 touchdowns from our offense to win the game. And as for those numbers, UVA averaged 438 ypg in other games (and 27 points), so it's not as though they had a season high outing against us. It was just another day for their offense at the very best, we just got our asses handed to us trying to respond.

Say what you want about who you want, but all this sh*t happened. It's a fact. If you don't want to look at it, continue being a moron. The issues we saw on offense are not schematic, they are due to boneheaded lack of execution. We have counters for everything UVA did on defense built into our offensive system, we just failed to execute ALL of them. The issues we saw on defense were the same issues that always give us trouble: being blown off the line by a big physical OL and a good power running game.

What's the solution? Hell if I know. But that's the freaking problem.
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Our D (not given the priority for over 4 years) was giving up an average of 28 ppg before yesterday. In a WEAK ACC - and against weak OOC.

If you don't think D is our #1 problem then nothing to explain. Kicking game #2 problem.

Giving up 24 points sucks beyond belief.
 
BarrelORum said:
My two cents:
Point #1 of yours is incorrect. We had a penalty that negated Tevin's run but we scored on that drive anyways.

Paul Johnson not Only got out coached he didn't have this team prepared and the fact of the matter is you could see this coming for 3 weeks now. We showed signs of lackluster play and low motivation since NCST and its gotten progressively worse. That's the coaches job. PJ has said in the past that he shouldn't have to motivate his players. Maybe not. But when your QB goes from prolific to awful in a matter of 3 games and your calling motivational sucking pass plays on 3rd and 3-4 yards or first down plays when your QB is throwing like Betty White, something is wrong and you're not doing enough to fix it.

Our Defense is not really a problem as a whole. Its definitely a handful of players who suck. Our DLine couldn't get by my 3 year old if she taking a nap on the ground. Furthermore there is a certain player that is so Overrated and out of position not to mention terrible at run support that he really doesn't need to be starting. I cannot figure out for the life of me why the coaches haven't let Jemea take over for him.

A certain Senior LB who likes to Trippy Mane too ööööing much and can't play at a high level.

Bottom line for me though is we had less than 300 yards of offense mainly by our own doing and only scored 14 points on O. The 2nd straight week of pure shit. You can say whatever you want to about bad penalties and bad defense making it seem worse, but we have a major problem on offense and its a combination of poor attitude, lack of desire or urgency, and a complete lack of FOCUS.

PJ needs to step up and own it. The poor play is a direct attribute of poor coaching. PERIOD.
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Yes. D-line sucks. We will burn multiple redshirts next year.

I thought they should have started Jemea Thomas at safety right when Holton went out for the season. Its not all Johnson that is the problem, we really don't have a single solid player back there. Would love to see Jemea and Holton starting back there next year with Johnson using that as motivation to get better.

I think they need to start Brandon Watts over Sylvester. Maybe that will light a fire under him to come out and play better.

But the defense has performed better than the offense 3 weeks in a row. I'm more concerned about the Girl Squad, Tevin's passing, and stupid penalties all around.
 
texstinger said:
Our D (not given the priority for over 4 years) was giving up an average of 28 ppg before yesterday. In a WEAK ACC - and against weak OOC.

If you don't think D is our #1 problem then nothing to explain. Kicking game #2 problem.

Giving up 24 points sucks beyond belief.
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If you're talking about personnel, then I kind of agree. No one on our defense can solo tackle. Groh is doing an excellent job with players who can't even tackle. On offense, we have above average personnel and for some reason they're playing at the same level as, if not lower than, our defense.
 
We made a big mistake by not getting Lee some playing time early in the year. It was easy to see that Washington looked better then he really is. Now here we stand about to play the best teams on our schedule with a chance to make it to the ACCCG with a QB who can't pass.
 
a5ehren said:
Yeah, but if we do that, it's a 15-second drive, not a 10-minute one. It probably cost us 2 possessions.
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Well, given our lack of depth on defense, I would say that longer drives are better for our team overall.
 
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