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There is no denying that a coordinator is a type of coach.
 
No offensive coordinator who's last two seasons as an OC (with a different QB and #1 WR and RB) produced years like Tech 99 and Tech 2000 can be over rated.
 
Take away the offensive success of Friedgen's teams under Ross in 89-91 and while coaching Hamilton and Godsey under O'Leary and being a Tech fan would have been dismal these last thirty years. Ralph was a great coach for Georgia Tech.
 
77GTFan said:
Take away the offensive success of Friedgen's teams under Ross in 89-91 and while coaching Hamilton and Godsey under O'Leary and being a Tech fan would have been dismal these last thirty years. Ralph was a great coach for Georgia Tech.
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So Ross and O'leary owe all their success to Ralph, got it. (Odd how O'leary continues to win without him isn't it)

Ralph was a good coach, I'm not arguing that. I'm just not so binary in my thought process that a coach has to be either "great" or "sucks", there is also room for 'good', 'mediocre', and 'poor'. On a scale of 1-10 I would rate Ralph an 8 or 9 as an offensive coordinator; and about a 6 or 7 as a head coach. As since most feel he is some sort of "god" as a quarterback developer I would give him a 7 or 8 there. Although it is seldom discussed, recievers seemed to have more overall success under Ralph than did quarterbacks while Ralph was at Tech (how many recievers made it in the NFL compared to quarterbacks?).

I guess if your thought process is limited to binary, and your choices are "great" or "sucks", then CRF would be a "great" coach.
 
I think if the truth is known, Ralph does not like to recruit because of his physical appearance. I still think Ralph is an excellent coach, he didnt just forget how to coach. He is not recruiting the type players he needs to win big.
 
Aeromech, we are not that far off. I would rate Ralph a 9 to a 10 as a Coordinator and agree with your 6-7 as a head coach. But, I think that qualifies him as a great offensive coordinator.
 
aeromech said:
So Ross and O'leary owe all their success to Ralph, got it. (Odd how O'leary continues to win without him isn't it).
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I do not think anyone is saying Ross and O'Leary owe ALL of their success to Ralph. I am not sure where you are getting that. They had the foresight to seek him out and hire him...right? O'Leary has been successful in second tier college football...would love to see how he would do in BCS football again since he was a .500 coach without his good friend at OC.

aeromech said:
Although it is seldom discussed, recievers seemed to have more overall success under Ralph than did quarterbacks while Ralph was at Tech (how many recievers made it in the NFL compared to quarterbacks?).
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Well...there is no denying that Ralph did great things with Sean Jones, Joe Hamilton, George Godsey...and even Stan Humphries in the NFL. The receivers he had at GT were good college receivers...similar to the QB's...but none hit stardom in the NFL.
The 1990 receivers were Emmett Merchant, Greg Lester, and Bobby Rodriquez...all diminutive receivers that never played a down in the NFL.
The receivers 1998 through 2000 were much better college receivers than the 1990 crew...with some appearances in the NFL...but not established starters at the next level. Dez White hung around awhile but never could get his hands consistent. Jonathan Smith has hung around with minimal PT. Kelly Campbell made a brief NFL appearance...not sure he ever started. Charlie Rogers played some solid NFL years as a special teams player. Jon Muyres, Kerry Watkins, and Will Glover did not move on...but had great careers at GT. This was definitely a special and exciting group of players during this time period.
 
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