MCB Created Major Decision Point for Tech

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The most significant turning point in recent Georgia Tech history was the negative turning point of losing to FSU in 1992. That game meant so much and we and the refs found a way to lose it in the end. Tech football never recovered.

I can not help but think that this debacle in San Fran, brought on by the MCB's decision could be another major point in Georgia Tech football. We could turn it around but the negative possibilities seem more likely. SOrry for the morbid post.
 
No Reason

to get down about one lousy decision that you had no control over. Unfortunately our athletic staff and team did not rise above the situation and get the job done in SF. A few years ago I would have said 51-7, followed by a loss in the Silicon Bowl, with Flunkgate in place would have been the death knell, but it wasn't. Hopefully we'll hold onto the commitments we have and sign a good class, get some good news on the probation penalties, and put all this behind us for a good spring practice and fall campaign.

On an unrelated note, I did see this happen in pro cycling a few years back when a Mercury sponsored team did not get selected to ride the Tour de France behind a couple of inferior French teams. Commercial $$$ and advertising exposure is extremely important in that sport and Mercury just disintegrated afterwards.
 
what makes you think

What makes you think that the team would have come out prepared to play Minnesota in the MCB?

Our fans would not have attended that game in great numbers. We didn't send 1,000 fans to Nashville to watch a basketball team with a legitmate chance at the Elite 8 or higher. We didn't travel to see an exciting team play in a big event in small numbers.

I am confident that wouldn't travel in large numbers to see a boring team in a meaningless event in the same city.

Nashville would not suck as bad as Emerald City. However, it would still have been a let down game, and our fans and players would have complained about it as well.

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I think we would be ready

to play because Minnesota is from a major conference and the game would have been in an actual football stadium...not left field.

Tech plays to stop the run and put pressure on the QB. We would have matched up well against the Gophers IMO.

loss to UGA, loss to Fres St, Flunkgate was MUCH worse than this.
 
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I think you're totally wrong. Many posters on the boards I view were planning to attend if we had gone to Nashville. In fact many had rooms reserved already. If the fans had been excited at the prospect of a closer bowl the team would have been as well. We were expecting Nashville after the upset in the ACC championship game. We were disappointed in San Fran because we knew we'd been screwed. We didn't feel that way about the MCB.

The difference with basketball is the shorter notice and the expectation many had that we would win. That would have meant going somewhere else the following week.
 
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so the MCB would have suddenly and magically reversed our trend of our fans not travelling well the past five bowl games..just bc we would be playing Minnesota? Yea, right. I love your world.
 
Re: what makes you think

Nothing complicated here. When we beat uga, the fans stay energized. That game is still the most important game we play every year.
However, a trip to Jax for the conference game may be an exception.
 
Re: what makes you think

I agree, pocketwatch. Losing each year to the mutts does dampen the enthusiasm for a bowl game. Of course, playing teams that have no national attention in venues less than desirable doesn't help either.
 
Re: what makes you think

We traveled fine to the Champs bowl, just not our west. What's so hard to figure out about that?

BTW, I see your smart ass streak is intact.
 
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only one game in a long streak that you say we travelled well? (and thank our lucky stars that UVA declined that bowl to let us in). Yet, playing in the MCB against another medicore team that brings no national attention would really bring out the GT fans. If you say so... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugher.gif
 
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So you think any team is going to take 10,000 fans from the south to Boise, or Seattle, or San Francisco? Why is this so hard for you to understand? The simple point being that if we can get their by car, we show up. All the FL bowls have proven that. BTW, how many did Clemson take to Boise when they went? Do you just not want to agree that anything to do with Tech could be positive or do you really not get my point?
 
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I've got to challenge your thinking here. Four of the five bowls have been in the west. No one travels well to those bowls. We probably did as well in Boise as any ACC team has done except Clemson.

The Champs Bowl attendance was not bad at all given the close proximity to Christmas Day. We did better than State did when they played Pitt there.

The timing of the Music City Bowl and the location, not so much Minnesota, would have made this a great trip for Tech fans. My brother and I would have bought no fewer than four and perhaps as many as nine tickets for family to enjoy the game in Nashville. I believe Tech would have had a strong showing, 18 to 25 thousand, for the Music City Bowl.

The two Gator Bowls and the Peach Bowl, plus the Champs Bowl, should all indicate GT has a great fan following to bowls in the southeast.
 
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I would assume that tickets sold are the #1 priority, but I don't know how close behind are other dollars spent on expensive hotel rooms, restraunts, etc.

If the MCB was going to be a day trip only for most Tech fans, I don't think that would have been too attractive for those that only care about the money.
 
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we barely took 10,000 fans (if that) to Orlando in 2004 (again, thanks to UVA exams). The total attendance for our game against 'cuse was only 28,000. We cannot even fill our own stadium without using gimmick deals or packages..and even then its way too many of the visiting fans taking up our seats. Why because we play plain jane football. We finish with middle of the road seasons. Our fans, whether you choose to admit it or not don't travel well. Blame that on all our bowls out west..or just look one state to the south and you'll see very weak numbers for GT. Like it or not, that is or is quickly becoming our reputation. Do you think the Bowl Selection Committees don't see and know that? You need to get defensive with all those folks about the way we travel and the reasons our numbers are low...not with me. That is precisely why we continually get picked over for these nothing bowls...probably the case this year. Oh yea, and the fact that our coach is Gailey who provides for continually blah-say seasons.
 
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Forget it. Yes there is a perception that we don't travel. But that doesn't mean it's true. You're clearly in the minority of Tech fans on this one as most believe we travel as well as any school our size. We may have sold only 10,000 tickets through the school but those who were at the game, and who post here, have indicated the number of Tech fans was much higher at the game. But you're right, the bowl committees know best and we suck at everything so we should never get another invitation to any bowl anywhere.

BTW, not to mess you up with any facts or anything, but the attendance at last year's Champs bowl was in the range of their better attended games until this year, when they moved the game until AFTER Christmas. Spin that however you want, but that includes games with NC State, Clemson and others who supposedly travel well. It's all right there on their website...but don't hurt yourself actually looking for data.
 
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you *sniff* smell *sniff sniff* like DAWG SHIT!
 
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sorry, but 10,000 ticket sales for a school and 28,000 overall attendance is not good in a bowl. no way to spin that, but I see you tried. Put that attendance up against all our other bowl ticket sales and we're VERY low. No spin on that. Blame the west...but I blame our record and reputation for fan travel for being put there. That's the reality.

GT fans can do MUCH better (see bball) if only we had a football team that wouldn't lose to our biggest rival each year in the last game only to go to a another low tier bowl because of consistently achieving mediocre seasons since our coach has been here. no spinning on that either.
 
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. Put that attendance up against all our other bowl ticket sales

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What in the heck are you trying to say? We traveled as well as NC state and others to the Champs bowl. You just seem to want to be a big negative A hole about Tech. I don't know of ANY program in the ACC that would travel well 4 out of 5 out west. Perhaps you do. Would UVA have traveled better to the Emerald? Would they have filled it up? Do you really think we would not have outsold them for the MCB?

There ain't no way we take 25k out west - or even 10k. I can't think of a school in the ACC that would, unless it were the Rose or Fiesta bowl.

Many of us were planning to go to the MCB. I had at least 6 that were going. I took NONE to the Emerald. Most of us don't have pockets deep enough to be spending our Christmas in California. We were all about done planning and were looking for a few more to go since it was and easy travel.

You sound like you need to go cheer for another team.
 
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