Michigan under investigation

BrentwoodJacket said:
I am surprised that is against the rules.
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It doesn't seem like much but not every school can afford to send staff members out to a bunch of their opponent's games, and that would create an unfair advantage to the ones who could send multiple guys to multiple games, etc.
 
GoGATech said:
It doesn't seem like much but not every school can afford to send staff members out to a bunch of their opponent's games, and that would create an unfair advantage to the ones who could send multiple guys to multiple games, etc.
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I am guessing schools already do this. Example: They probably know that 95% of the time on a 3rd down and 7+ the QB needs to look for a running lane against us.

Clemson has always had more staff than the rest of us. Pregame, they have coaches spread across the field watching the opponent warm up, evaluating. I'd guess they know at a 90% confidence based on alignment what the opposing offense is going to run. It is why sometimes plays end up being so wide open.
 
00Burdell said:
Who wants to bet that there isn't a dwag spy at all the Michigan/Ohio St. Oklahoma/etc. games looking for a chink in their defensive armor?
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This whole sign stealing thing may be a clue why we suck so badly after halftime. In general we’ve kept up with our opponents in the 1st half and bombed the 2nd half. We’ve also heard how much our schemes have been simplified into oblivion, which if sign stealing is happening would be the opposite of what we should be doing. With CPJ we never had this problem on offense. He had a rotation of A backs to run the plays in.

Thoughts?
 
gtchief said:
This whole sign stealing thing may be a clue why we suck so badly after halftime. In general we’ve kept up with our opponents in the 1st half and bombed the 2nd half. We’ve also heard how much our schemes have been simplified into oblivion, which if sign stealing is happening would be the opposite of what we should be doing. With CPJ we never had this problem on offense. He had a rotation of A backs to run the plays in.

Thoughts?
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I think it is true.
 
guy must be a genius to figure out those "hilarious" poster board pictures they hold up

Hold up a pic of John Holmes, means "go long".
 
The sign stealing thing is so dum to me. It's not stealing signs to simply watch the play that happens after you do hand binoculars followed by a mimed axe chop or whatever. The whole stadium can see the signs, and they're probably not that hard to decode if that's all you're watching. When you signal in plays, the offense has the advantage because they can push the tempo and prevent the defense from subbing, so it's a risk and reward thing. If you don't want your signs stolen, just don't use signs...
 
Vespinae said:
The sign stealing thing is so dum to me. It's not stealing signs to simply watch the play that happens after you do hand binoculars followed by a mimed axe chop or whatever. The whole stadium can see the signs, and they're probably not that hard to decode if that's all you're watching. When you signal in plays, the offense has the advantage because they can push the tempo and prevent the defense from subbing, so it's a risk and reward thing. If you don't want your signs stolen, just don't use signs...
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If someone can steal your signs then you aren't doing it right.

If I can teach 9 year olds to understand the use of a trigger sign before the actual sign, and we change that trigger sign periodically, I'm pretty sure that college kids can learn it. Change the trigger every quarter if you have to. Not that difficult.
 
From what I understand the issue isn't the sign stealing itself, which is generally legal, but that a staffer went to other games and probably recorded the signs to use for their own games. Sounds a bit vague but not even sure the whole "staffer going to games" part is that big an issue; there was more said about using "illegal technology" to steal the signs, which to me sounds like he was probably filming it.
 
GTLiebs said:
From what I understand the issue isn't the sign stealing itself, which is generally legal, but that a staffer went to other games and probably recorded the signs to use for their own games. Sounds a bit vague but not even sure the whole "staffer going to games" part is that big an issue; there was more said about using "illegal technology" to steal the signs, which to me sounds like he was probably filming it.
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Still, it's kind of whiny to make that illegal since you get an advantage from signalling plays in on offense anyway.
 
GTLiebs said:
From what I understand the issue isn't the sign stealing itself, which is generally legal, but that a staffer went to other games and probably recorded the signs to use for their own games. Sounds a bit vague but not even sure the whole "staffer going to games" part is that big an issue; there was more said about using "illegal technology" to steal the signs, which to me sounds like he was probably filming it.
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As I said right before you, if people can steal your signs you are being lazy. Easy to mix things up periodically.
 
Sign stealing is fine during the game you’re in. Recording the sidelines of games you aren’t in is a different story.

CPJ shared a story while he was at GT about how when he was at Navy, some of his players took code breaking as a class and would have the signs stolen in the first half. Just an interesting callback.
Hopefully the NCAA just allows radio headsets at this point. And make Michigan pay for them.
 
Frankly, this is a nothingburger IMO. UNCheat's scandal was infinitely worse and nothing happened to 'em.

Nothing should happen to Big Blue either.

Sincerely,
I have Big Blue at 10:1 to win the natty.
 
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