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This is a game about which folks are saying that our option attack was slowed down/figured out/frustrated etc. Even Paul Johnson told Erin Andrews that Clemson's line was tough to block. And we got 300 yards rushing and won. If 300 yards rushing and a victory over a conference contender is a bad day, your offense is pretty special. Now, someone tell me why what I just said is wrong, or overly simplistic, or stupid. The last thing I want is to think our offense is still great if it's not.
 
And this is just another reason why next game is SUPER important. Regardless of what happens the rest of this season, if we win next game, all the triple option naysayers will have nothing to back up their arguments.

Miami is a great football team. They proved that the other night. A victory away from home against them will be big for national exposure, recruiting, and confidence.
 
cajunjacket said:
And this is just another reason why next game is SUPER important. Regardless of what happens the rest of this season, if we win next game, all the triple option naysayers will have nothing to back up their arguments.

Miami is a great football team. They proved that the other night. A victory away from home against them will be big for national exposure, recruiting, and confidence.
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Don't forget they also get 3 extra days to prepare. Win and the crap about the option loses even more basis.
 
I was thinking about the terrible passing last night, and while Josh made some bad throws, do you think any of this is a result of the type of passing game that Paul Johnson wants to use? If Josh is expected to learn the rest of the option game, which I saw some of last night, as well as a passing game as intricate as the run and shoot, I'd imagine that it's another steep learning curve.

Plus, Miami will want to come out and whoop out asses because of last year. We embarrassed them. They'll want revenge. Our boys need to know this. No more half-assing, no more taking plays off. Miami has to have this one circled and Shannon has been taxing his little brain looking for an answer. I'm worried, but I have faith in Paul Johnson.
 
Well, there are two ways to look at it:
The pessimistic Jacket fan(aka yukon):
They figured us out. We only scored 16 points on offense. We suck at passing. We're in deep doodie. Our OL sucks, and we had 6 straight 3 and outs.
The optimistic Jacket fan:
We weren't clicking and we still put up 400 yards. Josh had a horrible passing game, but the passes were open. We did enough to win. Clemson is the toughest D we'll face.

Personally, I'm in between the two, more leaning towards optimistic. We looked better than we did in game two last year against BC, whose DL talent is comparable to Clemson this year. We brought our C game and still beat our second biggest rival and put up 400 yards of offense.
That being said, Josh has to improve his passing and our OL better get it going. Our G-C-G got demolished all night. Our A-backs need to block better as well.
I think we have a top 30 offense at this point of the season, but we have the potential to be very good(top 10) if the blocking improves and we can be more efficient passing.
 
The MIA game is pretty simple IMO, if GT can just play like they did in the 2nd and 4th quarter all game then GT will win no question; especially if the D plays like they did in the 1st and 4th quarter. GT doesn't necessarily need play like the 1st quarter to win, blow someone out yes, but not to win.

Jacory Harris does not scare me. When FSU actually managed to get some pressure on him, he made some bad decisions and his passes were not nearly as accurate. MIA's defense also is not scary in the least bit. I see no change from last year to this year. Especially against the run. I think GT has a big game on perimeter in this game.

Also, as a bonus note, if Nesbitt does pass he should do it mid-range when the A-backs are actually still open. He should not wait on the big pass to develop (which it hardly ever did last night). There is nothing wrong with a 5 to 10 yard dunk because usually as far as I could see last night, the A-back had at least another 10 yards after the catch before someone could get to them.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I was thinking about the terrible passing last night, and while Josh made some bad throws, do you think any of this is a result of the type of passing game that Paul Johnson wants to use? If Josh is expected to learn the rest of the option game, which I saw some of last night, as well as a passing game as intricate as the run and shoot, I'd imagine that it's another steep learning curve.

Plus, Miami will want to come out and whoop out asses because of last year. We embarrassed them. They'll want revenge. Our boys need to know this. No more half-assing, no more taking plays off. Miami has to have this one circled and Shannon has been taxing his little brain looking for an answer. I'm worried, but I have faith in Paul Johnson.
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I don't see this as necessarily being a bad thing. You don't stop the option just by coming out wanting to "whoop ass". If their players can't stick to their assignments then it's going to be just like last year, with the ballcarrier 15 yards past the line of scrimmage before the overpursuing defenders even realize the guy they are all going to gang tackle doesn't have the ball.
 
Last year was spent attaining proficiency with PJ's running playbook. This year we are learning about more of the flexbone passing game. We'll get better at it. Nesbitt is a winner and he's smart and I think he learned a lot from his mistakes last night. And he won while learning. Come to think of it, Nesbitt's last throw of the game picked up a 3rd and 9 under extreme pressure that enabled us to win.
 
gtfan088 said:
I don't see this as necessarily being a bad thing. You don't stop the option just by coming out wanting to "whoop ass". If their players can't stick to their assignments then it's going to be just like last year, with the ballcarrier 15 yards past the line of scrimmage before the overpursuing defenders even realize the guy they are all going to gang tackle doesn't have the ball.
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You mean guys don't naturally think "WHOO I'm gonna stay in my lane!! I'm gonna stay in my lane so hard that he'll be hurtin for weeks after!!"?

I thought that was how it worked. :)
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
Last year was spent attaining proficiency with PJ's running playbook. This year we are learning about more of the flexbone passing game. We'll get better at it. Nesbitt is a winner and he's smart and I think he learned a lot from his mistakes last night. And he won while learning. Come to think of it, Nesbitt's last throw of the game picked up a 3rd and 9 under extreme pressure that enabled us to win.
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Throwing into coverage after he'd been picked off twice already too...showing that he doesn't let past mistakes affect his guts to throw it into the fire again.
 
I've said it once and I'll say it again. If Dwyer is taken out of the game, and the perimeter is not there the Josh has to have a big day and take some hits, pure, plain, and simple.

MIA is going down.
 
drinkclearwiskey said:
The MIA game is pretty simple IMO, if GT can just play like they did in the 2nd and 4th quarter all game then GT will win no question; especially if the D plays like they did in the 1st and 4th quarter. GT doesn't necessarily need play like the 1st quarter to win, blow someone out yes, but not to win.

Jacory Harris does not scare me. When FSU actually managed to get some pressure on him, he made some bad decisions and his passes were not nearly as accurate. MIA's defense also is not scary in the least bit. I see no change from last year to this year. Especially against the run. I think GT has a big game on perimeter in this game.

Also, as a bonus note, if Nesbitt does pass he should do it mid-range when the A-backs are actually still open. He should not wait on the big pass to develop (which it hardly ever did last night). There is nothing wrong with a 5 to 10 yard dunk because usually as far as I could see last night, the A-back had at least another 10 yards after the catch before someone could get to them.
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Let's just play them like we did last year. :laugher:
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
Come to think of it, Nesbitt's last throw of the game picked up a 3rd and 9 under extreme pressure that enabled us to win.
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I was a critic of PJ calling what seemed to be more passes than average last night, but I had to shut my mouth when that happened. It paid off in the end.

I just hope we can get back into that rhythm that we had. That was probably the only intelligent thing that one of the announcers mentioned last night is that our offense is rhythm based. That is very true. When we are in the groove, not even Florida could stop us. When we are out of the groove, Gardner-Webb could destroy us.
 
gtfan088 said:
I don't see this as necessarily being a bad thing. You don't stop the option just by coming out wanting to "whoop ass". If their players can't stick to their assignments then it's going to be just like last year, with the ballcarrier 15 yards past the line of scrimmage before the overpursuing defenders even realize the guy they are all going to gang tackle doesn't have the ball.
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Against any other school, I'd be happy. I don't trust Miami to play clean football though. If we lose Josh Nesbitt to a dirty hit from one of their thugs, we don't say goodbye to the game, we say goodbye to the season.

Miami scares me.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I was thinking about the terrible passing last night, and while Josh made some bad throws, do you think any of this is a result of the type of passing game that Paul Johnson wants to use? If Josh is expected to learn the rest of the option game, which I saw some of last night, as well as a passing game as intricate as the run and shoot, I'd imagine that it's another steep learning curve.
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I agree. Its got to be hard to have all that information in your head.
 
I replayed the game today and noticed that at least two of our stalled drives were due to either a dropped pass or missed block. In addition, I'm still baffled why we didn't go for it on the 4th and 1 play which I think would have changed the texture for the remainder of the game. I say all that to say that we stopped ourselves when the offense stalled as much, if not more, than Clemson did.

I would note however that our offensive line did a very poor job of pass blocking and never gave Josh much time to sit back in the pocket.

The defensive line did a good job of getting some pressure by only sending four guys a good bit of the time but they were certainly losing their steam as the 2nd half wore on. Would like to see Tarrant not give so much cushion since I think he could jam the receivers more at the line. The safeties had a pretty bad night and we'll need them to step up against Miami.
 
My ONLY gripe with Josh, and this ONLY comes b/c of the relative talent that he has surrounding him in the backfield, is that he doesn't appear to be a "home run" type runner.

Roddy, Anthony, and Jonathon are a threat to go to the endzone every time they touch the ball. Josh does not appear to be as fast or maneuverable as the other 3 as far as actually running the ball.

That said, I believe he is the cornerstone of our offense(duh) and he's already improved at running it ten-fold since this time last season...with no sign of slowing down as far as I can tell.
 
GTPilot said:
I replayed the game today and noticed that at least two of our stalled drives were due to either a dropped pass or missed block. In addition, I'm still baffled why we didn't go for it on the 4th and 1 play which I think would have changed the texture for the remainder of the game. I say all that to say that we stopped ourselves when the offense stalled as much, if not more, than Clemson did.
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We came out and ran the "Try to get them to jump offsides pla" and they jumped! But we didn't hike the ball. I kinda think PJ was pissed we didnt get that and sent out the kicking team.

I think if we convert that 4th we probably get at least the FG out of the drive and the game stays firmly in hand.
 
BHP12345 said:
We came out and ran the "Try to get them to jump offsides pla" and they jumped! But we didn't hike the ball. I kinda think PJ was pissed we didnt get that and sent out the kicking team.

I think if we convert that 4th we probably get at least the FG out of the drive and the game stays firmly in hand.
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And if we miss it, that might be our last opportunity to win, as we were struggling all second half in stopping Clemson, and their big play ability would have been bad in an OT situation.

I thought it was the right call definitely.
 
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