Mr. Bulldog shows his ignorance - again

[swampsting]

This from Loran Smith's "column" that gets circulated to a few very unlucky newspapers around the state:

"* Paul Johnson's wishbone didn't appear a thing of genius, as some had come to believe, after LSU took charge in the Chick-fil-A Bowl against Georgia Tech."

Look, Loran, before you have another vodka and tonic on the sidelines, howsabout learning that the offense that hung 45 points and 400-plus yards on your Doggies' defense ... AIN'T THE FREAKIN' WISHBONE! YOU MORON!
The Saturday after Thanksgiving can't get here fast enough. It just can't. To hell with the holidays. I want the Saturday after Thanksgiving so the Dogs can get another spanking and go running with their collective tail between the legs.

 

[wombat]

Here's the thing. So long as people get pissed off about someone calling it something other than the triple option, people will continue to do it.

Let them call it whatever they want. Wishbone. Flexbone. Hambone. Who cares?

 

[The Jacket]

Not true. Idiots like that will do it long after it stops bothering people because they're just that - idiots.

 

[ncjacket]

Not true. Idiots like that will do it long after it stops bothering people because they're just that - idiots.

Well, it just gives us something else to laugh at.

 

[olgoldandwhite]

Whatta ya got Loran?????

Well Larry, the grass is green today and pups are fired up, oohhhhh, about that injured player. He limped off the field on the last play and appeared to be hurting. Back to you Larry.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Bobby Bowden also called it the wishbone, and typically when we snap the ball, we are basically in the wishbone formation so it doesnt really matter what you call it. older guys seem to call it the wishbone

 

[The Jacket]

Bobby Bowden also called it the wishbone, and typically when we snap the ball, we are basically in the wishbone formation so it doesnt really matter what you call it. older guys seem to call it the wishbone

What? No we're not. How do we resemble the wishbone in any way right before we snap the ball?

 

[beej67]

What? No we're not. How do we resemble the wishbone in any way right before we snap the ball?

It's called 'breaking the bone.' We're not a wishbone team, don't really run wishbone plays, but wishbone teams used to line up in the flex sometimes, and motion back into their core run stuff.

Bobby Bowden also called it the wishbone, and typically when we snap the ball, we are basically in the wishbone formation so it doesnt really matter what you call it. older guys seem to call it the wishbone

PJ laughed at Bowden for that. Said something like "we haven't run the wishbone in years, but that's Bobby Bowden, so it's not like I'm going to argue with him about it,"

 

[BuzzCzar]

It's called 'breaking the bone.' We're not a wishbone team, don't really run wishbone plays, but wishbone teams used to line up in the flex sometimes, and motion back into their core run stuff.



PJ laughed at Bowden for that. Said something like "we haven't run the wishbone in years, but that's Bobby Bowden, so it's not like I'm going to argue with him about it,"

i agree, im just saying that there is no single term for all the variations in formation that we use

the terminology is a bit generational, wishbone, triple option, wing T, flex, spread... whatever

its a combo of a bunch of blocking schemes that work when running certain offensive plays.

 

[ncjacket]

Bobby Bowden also called it the wishbone, and typically when we snap the ball, we are basically in the wishbone formation so it doesnt really matter what you call it. older guys seem to call it the wishbone

Actually in our normal formation we're closer to an I when we snap the ball.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Actually in our normal formation we're closer to an I when we snap the ball.

again, there are so many variations in who goes into motion and where they started and how they travel that you can essentially mimick any set except 4 wides

 

[Ed3]

Mr. Bulldog personifies his ignorance all the time, but, if we hang another country A on his boys this coming November he'll gradually catch on to our offensive scheme.

Then again......

E3

again, there are so many variations in who goes into motion and where they started and how they travel that you can essentially mimick any set except 4 wides

 

[buzztheirazz]

again, there are so many variations in who goes into motion and where they started and how they travel that you can essentially mimick any set except 4 wides

not true. the A-backs can split wide if they want.
sh!t. we can go 5 wide if the b-back splits out.

 

[beej67]

Umm, our base formation mimics 4 wides.

That's sorta the whole point of our base formation.

 

[BuzzCzar]

not true. the A-backs can split wide if they want.
sh!t. we can go 5 wide if the b-back splits out.

well, you would have to do a full shift. you cant get into 4 wide with one guy in motion or two guys in sequential motion from our set very well.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Umm, our base formation mimics 4 wides.

That's sorta the whole point of our base formation.

but the A backs are too close to the line to be considered "wide"

 

[ncjacket]

but the A backs are too close to the line to be considered "wide"

So you split them out and don't use motion. It's not that complicated. To your point, we can run many formations and give many different looks from this offense.

 

[BuzzCzar]

So you split them out and don't use motion. It's not that complicated. To your point, we can run many formations and give many different looks from this offense.

or, as i said, you do a full shift. my original point was that from our "base formation" (which has the WRs close in) you cannot motion to a 4-wide set, but you can basically motion into every other type of set

 

[artesian jacket]

Bobby Bowden also called it the wishbone, and typically when we snap the ball, we are basically in the wishbone formation so it doesnt really matter what you call it. older guys seem to call it the wishbone

Ahem, I am one of the aforementioned "older guys" and I know better than to call a spread option offense a "wishbone". I was at Grant Field in the 1970s when Pepper ran what he called a "vanilla wishbone" and it had only a faint resemblance to Paul Johnson's triple option. There is no excuse for Loran's stupidity.

 

[lonestarjacket]

We do shift both A-backs into a wishbone formation sometimes, but not "typically." And I have never seen us run a play with A-backs in a three-point stance.

But the line definitely plays differently than in a true wishbone. And we usually played with one tight end and one split end when we actually ran the wishbone. The difference should be obvious in that the fullback was never the featured back in a wishbone.

CPJ should just coin a name himself for his offense and be done with it if it is different than the spread and different than the flexbone, etc.

Spread-bone? Heisenbone?