NCAA Changes

The $2000 thing is bullshit. What they've done is put it back on the school, and since some schools can't pay, that means that the big schools get permanently enfranchised at the top.

If it came from a general NCAA pot, it'd be fine, but it doesn't. Basically, they've ended amateur athletics. And if the figure grows much past $2k, then Tech is going to get rubbed out like the little guys were today.

The APR cutline increase also disproportionately affects GT because we don't have a crip major to stick athletes in.

The GPA minimum thresholds help us, because all our guys are going to meet that anyway.
 
I agree, the $2000 thing is just a way to weed out the small and many mid size schools from contending, but the academic side of things is definitely in our favor.
 
Best part:

"As part of the plan, the board agreed to raise eligibility standards for incoming freshmen and junior college transfers. Previously, high school seniors needed a 2.0 GPA in 16 core courses. Now they'll need a 2.3 GPA and will have to complete 10 of those classes before their senior year."

It won't make much of a difference because they were fudging the numbers anyway, but it will give a slight nudge in the direction of schools who care about academics.
 
ramblinwreck24 said:
...but the academic side of things is definitely in our favor.
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You think so?

The academic side of things may hurt our recruiting, because we may have to show more caution in who we can bring in. We don't have "Turf Management" and "Recreation and Leisure Studies" to pad the Academic Eligibility stats.

CPJ has done an excellent job in that area, though.
 
Well, I don't know if the eligibility thing helps us or not. If there are two players who are nearly equally talented, but one is academically stronger, it may move a football factory or two to pick the academically stronger kid.

Just saying, there's not a ton of Roddy Jones' and Daryl Richard's out there. If we miss 1, its a big deal for us.
 
My point exactly, gte. I think it's the right thing to do for the students, in terms of the school looking out for them (even if it's at gun point by the NCAA), but it may not help places like us.
 
my view:: Play a year of college football. Sure--food is provided if you're on scholarship--dorm and school paid for too..thats great.....BUT you can't have a job. You have 0$$ coming in. You are totally reliant as a 18-23 year old on mommy and daddy and if they aren't in a position to help you out-you're screwed. I think giving 2,000$ per player will help these kids out-maybe keep them out of trouble....def keep them from selling things like rings to make ends meet..shit some of these kids have KIDS.
If a school can't come up with 2k per kid..they really need to re-evaluate their whole situation....its a small drop in the bucket.........Every game day is a big marketing event for the school-athletics directly and indirectly brings in tons of money every year.. 2,000 dollars isn't going to make the kids rich-or break the school...and thats a fact
how many posters on here decided to go to tech before you knew about the educational side of things? maybe you saw a game on TV and thought-hmmm..thats perdy cool.
 
My issue with the $2000 is that they are going to pay it to football players... but what about the other sports (the rule change is for ALL athletes), the NCAA makes this change and the schools start paying football players, and then the basketball players complain that they want money, too... and then the baseball team... etc... There are a lot of student athletes out there and if you leave them out, there's a HUGE lawsuit waiting in the wings.
 
GTBlazer said:
how many posters on here decided to go to tech before you knew about the educational side of things? maybe you saw a game on TV and thought-hmmm..thats perdy cool.
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like zero?

2k per athlete including men&women. How many scholarship athletes do we have, close to 200? It's not nothing, it's something. It might actually not be a problem for GT, but it will hurt a lot of programs out there.
 
gtcompscientist said:
My issue with the $2000 is that they are going to pay it to football players... but what about the other sports (the rule change is for ALL athletes), the NCAA makes this change and the schools start paying football players, and then the basketball players complain that they want money, too... and then the baseball team... etc... There are a lot of student athletes out there and if you leave them out, there's a HUGE lawsuit waiting in the wings.
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I think the huge lawsuit waiting in the wings is from the football players who will claim they deserve a lot more than $2k a year. That will definitely happen eventually; it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

beej67 said:
The $2000 thing is bullshit. What they've done is put it back on the school, and since some schools can't pay, that means that the big schools get permanently enfranchised at the top.
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Hasn't that effectively already happened officially with the BCS and unofficially with the payments to players? I imagine the Top 25 at the end of the season is fairly static from year to year. I wonder if you took the top 25 from the past ten years, how many schools would have seven or more appearances...I bet close to half, at least.
 
andrew said:
I think the huge lawsuit waiting in the wings is from the football players who will claim they deserve a lot more than $2k a year. That will definitely happen eventually; it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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That's very true. So, how do you sort it out? It kinda seems like a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" choice.
 
gtcompscientist said:
That's very true. So, how do you sort it out? It kinda seems like a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" choice.
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I think eventually, 1A BCS college football (and possibly basketball) will leave the NCAA and become professional, paying the players based on revenue percentage under some sort of CBA.

Non revenue sports would continue to exist under the NCAA in an extremely scaled back form from how they exist now, since they wouldn't have the money from football to prop them up. Probably non-BCS football too.

Just my personal opinion.
 
cyptomcat said:
like zero?

2k per athlete including men&women. How many scholarship athletes do we have, close to 200? It's not nothing, it's something. It might actually not be a problem for GT, but it will hurt a lot of programs out there.
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its nothing......how many millions do you get from just the TV contracts?? How many hundreds of thousands do you allocate for marketing?? (sports is marketing...take away your sports and see if anyone out of the south will know that you even exist.)...Just one football gameday--how much does that bring.....2k per student-is chump change.

and 0?? come on.....no offense but you didn't grow up here.....I think the number is a lot higher than 0 :) I love ya man but I think you underestimate how much money athletic brings in the grand scheme of things...
 
GTBlazer said:
and 0?? come on.....no offense but you didn't grow up here.....I think the number is a lot higher than 0 :)
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I have spent a lot more time with Tech students than you, more than others too for that matter. I can guarantee you game on TV is not what motivated people to attend. Tech doesn't get that kind of students. I have met thousands of them to your couple dozens.

Why don't you tell us how much Tech spends marketing actually? Not what you think. Everything is public info. When I was talking this with you couple weeks ago, you didn't even know basic number figures off the top of your head. First quote some actual figures and then we will talk.
 
cyptomcat said:
I have spent a lot more time with Tech students than you, more than others too for that matter. I can guarantee you game on TV is not what motivated people to attend. Tech doesn't get that kind of students. I have met thousands of them to your couple dozens.

Why don't you tell us how much Tech spends marketing actually? Not what you think. Everything is public info. When I was talking this with you couple weeks ago, you didn't even know basic number figures off the top of your head. First quote some actual figures and then we will talk.
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this is what I do know::
1 million per year plus 350,000 buy out -Brian Gregory
2.6 million plus incentives- CPJ
let not talk about CPH buy out
13 million a year for each institution- TV contract
and if you dont think that there are TONS of people who BUY ga tech gear/tickets/or who may want to someday attend Tech...because they saw them on TV and became a fan--then you dont have to believe it....But whatever.

Not paying players a little bit--it robbery and it's gone on way too long
 
this is about how much per year atheltics earn you....GT.
Georgia Tech $47,126,247 ACC

if you cant cut 2,000 dollars x 200 athletes out of a 47million dollar pie....you're a bit silly.
 
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