NEW Commitment!

If you notice we have two 5 stars and one four star recruits from this list. I would say we are getting a solid class so far. Hopefully this will increase with more numbers
 
techrod. Did you see that write up showing the college all american football players and where they ranked coming out of HS according to different publications?

Wish I could find it. It was very telling. Most of the kids on the all american teams were not highly recruited at all. if even ranked. Who offers kids and what they rank mean absolutely nothing to me.

Evaluating talent seems to be a lost art. You recruit/evaluate kids that can fit into your system. You build them up in the program to be great student athletes. That's my thinking anyways.
 
I'm sure Toledo has been offering for a long time since his brother is a Senior there. His brother will be a four year letterman and has played Center and Guard. He has a 3.85 in Civil Engineering IIRC and was Academic All-American last year. He was an Athlon pre-season All-MAC selection. Toledo won the MAC west last year and is still alive for it this year.

Unless Kevin falls a long way from the tree he is certainly capable of playing at our level. He has the size and strength to play Center or Guard and he has the brains to play Center (very important).
 
GTT... Here you go... I think this is what you were talking about...

2001 Offense

Gaffney, Jabar (Soph) Florida WR Lemming Rated 23rd WR in 1999. Rivals did not rank
Reed, Josh (Junior) LSU WR Lemming Rated 15th TB in 1998. Rivals did not rank
Graham, Dan (Senior) Colorado TE Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
McKinnie, Bryant (Senior) Miami OL Lemming had as 16th best JC player in 1999. Lemming didn't rank coming out of HS. Rivals did not rank
Fonoti, Toniu (Junior) Nebraska OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals Rated 17th OL 1999
Gurode, Andre (Senior) Colorado OL Lemming Rated 20th GRD/CTR in 1997. Rivals did not rank.
Williams, Mike (Senior) Texas OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Pearson, Mike (Junior) Florida OL Lemming Rated 1st OT in 1998. Rivals Rated 4th OT in 1998
Metcalf, Terrence (Senior) Mississippi OL Lemming Rated 7th OT in 1997. Rivals Rated 7th G in 1997
Bentley, LeCharles (Senior) Ohio St OL Lemming Rated 12th GRD/CTR in 1998. Rivals did not rank
Grossman, Rex ((Soph) Florida QB Lemming Rated 7th QB in 1997. Rivals did not rank
Staley, Luke (Junior) BYU RB Lemming did not rank, Rivals Rated 8th TR in 1999
Green, William (Junior) Boston Coll RB Lemming Rated 1st FB in 1999. Rivals Rated 4th RB in 1999
Duval, Damon (Junior) Auburn K Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank

2001 Defense

Brown, Alex (Senior) Florida DL Lemming Rated 19th OLB in 1997. Rivals Rated 3rd WLB in 1997
Freeney, Dwight (Senior) Syracuse DL Lemming Rated 14th ILB in 1998. Rivals Rated 13th WLB in 1998
Henderson, John (Senior) Tennessee DL Lemming Rated 2nd DE in 1998. Rivals Rated 1st RE in 1998
Peppers, Julius (Junior) N Carolina DL Lemming Rated 2nd TE in 1998. Rivals Rated 1st ATH in 1998
Calmus, Rocky (Senior) Oklahoma LB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Thomas, Robert (Senior) UCLA LB Lemming Rated 2nd ILB in 1998. Rivals Rated 1st WLB in 1998
Henderson, EJ (Junior) Maryland LB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Jammer, Quentin (Senior) Texas DB Lemming Rated 7th S in 1997. Rivals Rated 8th FS in 1997
Reed, Edward (Senior) Miami DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Williams, Roy (Junior) Oklahoma DB Lemming Rated 10th S in 1998. Rivals Rated 4th FS in 1998.
Dorsch, Travis (Junior) Purdue P Lemming Rated 2nd P in 1998. Rivals did not rank

2000 Offense

Minnis, Marvin (Senior) Florida St WR Lemming Rated 13th WR in 1996. Rivals did not rank.
Bryant, Antonio (Soph) Pittsburgh WR Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Mitchell, Fred (Junior) UCLA WR Lemming Rated 16th WR in 1997. Rivals Rated 8th WR in 1997
Natkin, Brian (Senior) UTEP TE Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Hutchinson, Steve (Senior) Michigan OL Lemming Rated 11th OT in 1996. Rivals did not rank
Hamilton, Ben (Senior) Minnesota OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Brown, Chris (Senior) Georgia Tech OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Davis, Leonard (Senior) Texas OL Lemming Rated 1st OT in 1997. Rivals Rated 2nd OT in 1997
Raiola, Dominic (Junior) Nebraska OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Heupel, Josh (Senior) Oklahoma QB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Tomlinson, LaDainian (Senior) TCU RB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Anderson, Damian (Junior) Northwestern RB Lemming Rated 10th TB in 1997. Rivals did not rank
Ruffin, Jonathan (Soph) Cincinnati K Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Moss, Santana (Senior) Miami All Purpose Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank

2000 Defense

Reynolds, Jamal (Senior) Florida St DL Lemming Rated 3rd DE in 1997. Rivals Rated 3rd Rush End in 1997
Carter, Andre (Senior) California DL Lemming Rated 2nd DE in 1997. Rivals Rated 2nd Rush End in 1997
Hampton, Casey (Senior) Texas DL Lemming Rated 9th DT in 1996. Rivals did not rank
Henderson, John (Junior) Tennessee DL Lemming Rated 2nd DE in 1998. Rivals Rated 1st RE in 1998
Morgan, Dan (Senior) Miami LB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Calmus, Rocky (Junior) Oklahoma LB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Adams, Keith (Junior) Clemson LB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Smith, Dwight (Senior) Akron DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Fletcher, Jamar (Junior) Wisconsin DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Smoot, Fred (Senior) Miss St DB Lemming Rated 7th best JC prospect in 1999. Lemming did not rank out of HS. Rivals did not rank
Cody, Tay (Senior) Florida St DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Reed, Edward (Junior) Miami DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Thatcher, JT (Senior) Oklahoma DB Lemming Rated 19th CB in 1997. Rivals did not rank
Harris, Nick (Senior) California P Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank

1999 Offense

Walter, Troy (Senior) Stanford WR Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Warrick, Peter (Senior) Florida St WR Lemming rated as 1st WB in 1995. Rivals listed in top 13 WRs in 1995
Whalen, James (Senior) Kentucky TE Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
McIntosh, Chris (Senior) Wisconsin OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Samuels, Chris (Senior) Alabama OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Coleman, Cosey (Junior) Tennessee OL Lemming rated as 2nd DT in 1997. Rivals rated as 3rd OT in 1997
Whitaker, Jason (Senior) Florida St OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Hamilton, Ben (Junior) Minnesota OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Riti, Rob (Senior) Missouri OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Hamilton, Joe (Senior) Georgia Tech QB Lemming rated as 1st Option QB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 9 Run-Pass QBs in 1995
Dayne, Ron (Senior) Wisconsin RB Lemming rated as 1st FB in 1996. Rivals rated as 1st FB in 1996
Jones, Thomas (Senior) Virginia RB Lemming rated as 9th TB in 1996. Rivals rated as 10th TB in 1996.
Janikowski, Sebastian (Junior) Florida St K Lemming rated as 1st K in 1997. Rivals rated as 1st K in 1997.
Northcutt, Dennis (Senior) Arizona AP Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank

1999 Defense

Brown, Courtney (Senior) Penn St DL Lemming rated 2nd OLB in 1996. Rivals rated as 2nd RE in 1996.
Moore, Corey (Senior) Virginia Tech DL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Simon, Corey (Senior) Florida St DL Lemming rated 1st NG in 1995. Rivals rated in top 11 DT in 1995
Arrington, LaVar (Junior) Penn St LB Lemming rated as 1st OLB in 1997. Rivals rated as 1st Ath in 1997.
Simoneau, Mark (Senior) Kansas St LB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Short, Brandon (Senior) Penn St LB Lemming rated 3rd ILB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 10 SDE in 1995.
Carter, Tyrone (Senior) Minnesota DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Urlacher, Brian (Senior) New Mexico DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Brown, Ralph (Senior) Nebraska DB Lemming rated 6th CB in 1996. Rivals rated 3rd CB in 1996.
Grant, Deon (Junior) Tennessee DB Lemming rated 2nd S in 1997. Rivals rated 1st FS in 1997
O'Neal, Deltha (Senior) California DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Bayes, Andrew (Senior) E Carolina P Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank

1998 Offense

Holt, Torry (Senior) NC State WR Lemming rated as 50th WR in 1995. Rivals did not rank
Warrick, Peter (Junior) Florida St WR Lemming rated as 1st WB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 13 WRs in 1995
Edwards, Troy (Senior) La Tech WR Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
French, Rufus (Junior) Mississippi TE Lemming rated as 1st TE in 1996. Rivals rated as 2nd TE in 1996
Farris, Kris (Junior) UCLA OL Lemming rated as 13th G in 1995. Rivals rated in top 22 OL in 1995
Gibson, Aaron (Senior) Wisconsin OL Lemming rated as 14th OT in 1995. Rivals rated in top 22 OL in 1995
Stinchcomb, Matt (Senior) Georgia OL Lemming rated as 2nd OT in 1995. Rivals rated in top 22 OL in 1995
Murphy, Rob (Junior) Ohio St OL Lemming rated as 20th G in 1995. Rivals did not rank
Page, Craig (Senior) Georgia Tech OL Lemming rated as 16th DT in 1994 (signed with Louisville). Rivals did not rank.
McNown, Cade (Senior) UCLA QB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Bishop, Michael (Senior) Kansas St QB Lemming rated as 42nd JC player in 1997. Lemming did not rank out of HS. Rivals did not rank
Couch, Tim (Junior) Kentucky QB Lemming rated as 1st Pro-Style QB in 1996. Rivals rated as 1st Pro-Style QB in 1996
Williams, Ricky (Senior) Texas RB Lemming rated 2nd FB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 7 FB in 1995
Cloud, Mike (Senior) Boston Coll RB Lemming rated 50th RB in 1994. Rivals did not rank.
Janikowski, Sebastian (Junior) Florida St K Lemming rated as 1st K in 1997. Rivals rated as 1st K in 1997.
Allen, David (Soph) Kansas St KR Lemming did not rank. Rivals rated 10th All-Purpose back in 1996

1998 Defense

Burke, Tom (Senior) Wisconsin DL Lemming rated 16th DT in 1995. Rivals did not rank
Reagor, Montae (Senior) Texas Tech DL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
DeVries, Jared (Senior) Iowa DL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Claiborne, Chris (Junior) USC LB Lemming rated 3rd ILB in 1996. Rivals rated 1st SLB in 1996
Nguyen, Dat (Senior) Texas A&M LB Lemming rated 23rd ILB in 1994. Rivals rated in top 10 MLB in 1994.
Kelly, Jeff (Senior) Kansas St LB Lemming rated 43rd JC player in 1997. Lemming did not rank out of HS. Rivals did not rank
Wilson, Al (Senior) Tennessee LB Lemming rated 4th FB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 9 S in 1995.
McAlister, Chris (Senior) Arizona DB Lemming rated 28th JC player in 1996. Lemming did not rate out of HS. Rivals did not rank.
Winfield, Antoine (Senior) Ohio St DB Lemming rated 23rd CB in 1995. Rivals did not rank
Bailey, Champ (Junior) Georgia DB Lemming rated 39th RB in 1996. Rivals rated 1st CB in 1996
Poindexter, Anthony (Senior) Virginia DB Lemming rated 9th FS in 1994. Rivals rated in top 13 FS in 1994
Kristosik, Joe (Junior) UNLV P Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank

1997 Offense

Moss, Randy (Soph) Marshall WR Lemming rated 1st WR in 1995. Rivals rated in top 13 WR in 1995
Green, Jacquez (Junior) Florida WR Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Mayes, Alonzo (Senior) Oklahoma St TE Lemming rated 18th TE in 1993. Rivals did not rank
Taylor, Aaron (Senior) Nebraska OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Faneca, Alan (Junior) LSU OL Lemming rated 17th G in 1994. Rivals rated in top 9 G of 1994
Turley, Kyle (Senior) San Diego St OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Overhauser, Chad (Senior) UCLA OL Lemming rated 9th G in 1993. Rivals rated 13th OL in 1993
Kreutz, Olin (Junior) Washington OL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Manning, Peyton (Senior) Tennessee QB Lemming rated 2nd Pro-Style QB in 1994. Rivals rated in top 13 Pro-Style QB in 1994
Williams, Ricky (Junior) Texas RB Lemming rated 2nd FB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 7 FB in 1995
Ennis, Curtis (Junior) Penn St RB Lemming rated 2nd ILB in 1994. Rivals rated in top 10 WLB in 1994
Gramatica, Martin (Junior) Kansas St K Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Dwight, Tim (Senior) Iowa KR Lemming rated 13th RB in 1994. Rivals rated in top 13 All-Purpose Back in 1994

1997 Defense

Wistrom, Grant (Senior) Nebraska DL Lemming rated 2nd DE in 1994. Rivals rated in top 13 SDE on 1994.
Wadsworth, Andre (Senior) Florida St DL Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Ellis, Greg (Senior) N Carolina DL Lemming rated 14th DE in 1993. Rivals rated 17th DE in 1993
Peter, Jason (Senior) Nebraska DL Lemming did not rank. Rivals rated 6th DT in 1993.
Katzenmoyer, Andy (Soph) Ohio St LB Lemming rated 1st ILB in 1996. Rivals rated 2nd SLB in 1996
Cowart, Sam (Senior) Florida St LB Lemming rated 19th OLB in 1993. Rivals rated 12th OLB in 1993
Simmons, Anthony (Junior) Clemson LB Lemming rated 6th OLB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 10 WLB in 1995
Simmons, Brian (Senior) N Carolina LB Lemming rated 12th FB in 1993. Rivals did not rank.
Woodson, Charles (Junior) Michigan DB Lemming rated 2nd S in 1995. Rivals rated in top 8 FS in 1995
Bly, Dre' (Soph) N Carolina DB Lemming rated 14th WB in 1995. Rivals rated in top 8 CB in 1995
Weary, Fred (Senior) Florida DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Lee, Brian (Senior) Wyoming DB Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
Kessler, Chad (Senior) LSU P Lemming did not rank. Rivals did not rank
 
Thanks Jacketguy. That list is pretty telling to me. Amazing stuff.

Go Jackets!
 
Keep 'em coming, baby!

Welcome, Kevin! We've got some sewers here in the ATL we'd like you to take a look at.
 
Jacket Guy- whew lots to digest!! Gt Crew- good point. I just remember the last class Pepper recruited was the worst ever for Tech. There was ABSOLUTELY NO ONE offered by any top 30 program, and look what happened to our record in 1980,81,82 and83. You have to get those players who are offered by those programs at least say 20 out of 25 signees. This boy may follow in his brothers footstep and be very good and also a leader! So far looking at who has offered our 4 commitments is not very exciting so we MUST start getting those who are offered by the top programs or we will fall way behind the top 30. You can't sign all sleepers or your program will take a LONG nap. You 2 posters do make a good point, but the chances of a whole class working out is nil.
 
I think beeware needs to get la*d. Maybe that would help with his attitude problem!

Win or lose, we drink the booze!
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Anything resembling Peppers last class of all sleepers We will finish the year 2005 in the bottem 3 in the conference. Also we Must sign at least 9 or 10 of 25 from our home state or the non alumni fan base will have no chance to grow. You have to have the Ga. high school coaches on your side with respect. As far as marginal student athletes go; you have to give those guys with great athletic ability a chance. There have been numorous ex Tech players who were very marginal that got there degree. With the proper analysis with their recruitment interview you can pretty much tell which of these guys have got a real chance of fulfilling their academic requirments.
 
techrod .. your commentaries regarding recruiting make a lot of sense.

but you post with so much authority regarding this subject that one might assume that you have recruited many top 10 recruiting classes for division 1A schools.

is that the case?

if so .. i'll (i'm speaking for myself but i am pretty sure that there are many more with similar views as mine) respect all your posts regarding recruiting.

however, if that is not the case ... please for heaven's sake, don't go about posting comments like
this is not the kind of talent i'm looking for
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">you Sir, have not seen this kid .. have not read anything about him except for what is posted in this post ..

please temper your posts according to the information you posess and your abilities to process the information that you do posess
 
techrod. Pepper's last class was in '79. That was 23 years ago. The college football sceen has changed a great deal since then. Recruiting has changed a great deal since then. I hear your point though.

You've given your disliking to Kevin commiting to GT. He might not be what you are looking for in a student athlete. That's your opinion.

The young man is 6'5 285 lbs. Benches 350lbs already. He's obviously a good student. His brother is a good student athlete at Toledo. I know you don't have any respect for Toledo. That's my opinion you don't anyway. That's fine with me. Wonder what his parents think of your opinion. Their son is soon to be coming to GT. Maybe they like to read about the fans and such. This board and the hive would be likely places to find.

We don't know if the info from the recruiting site is right. They don't always get it right who has offerend and who hasn't. That goes for the things I listed above as well. It's not really important as far as I'm concerned anyway. A lot of times it is where the kid wants to go that has a lot to do with who offers him. There are a lot of things we don't know.

One this I do know. You sure don't SEEM happy with Kevin choosing GT and/or GT choosing Kevin. Sorry he's not what you're looking for in a student athlete based on this information on the net.

I say welcome Kevin. GOO JACKETS!
 
When the ncaa let alumni and friends of institute recruit I certainly did just that. Bill Curry requested a meeting with me in my home town on a cetain recruit. My wife and I entertaina couple of Tech assistants at different occasions before a high school game. I was called to their practice by the coach when he came to to scout. Al Ciraldo came by to see me at my work. And I was invited to the then new Edge buildind for a recruiters cocktail party. So yes I do know what it takes. Now if you read my second post I stated you had a good point about this young man and may become a great player and leader, but I do maintain you can't sign all sleepers or you will and mark my words end up in a heck of a MESS.
 
techrod .. thanks for your response on your recruiting "credentials".

so in your own words .. "you do know what it takes".

now let me remind you of a few facts:

1) you've never seen this kid .. he's not from your home town and he's never played a high school game in front of your eyes and you've never hosted any Tech assistants scouting this kid.

2) you've never heard about this kid .. and haven't got a clue about him .. nada .. zilch

3) someone from the current coaching staff has taken a look at this kid and has liked what this kid has to offer as a student athlete.

so when you base your judgement on this kid saying that he is not the kind of talent you are looking for ..

1) you do so without any tangible information needed to reach such a conclusion.

2) question the recruiting skills of the person who has recruited this kid.

3) obviously question the talent of the kid under discussion

so once again .. please refrain from posting comments and judgement when you do not posess pertinent and relevant information needed to make such judgements.
 
max emfinger has this guy rated 4 stars and if people on this board think they know more than this guy you are kidding yourself.

I think it is great we have another commit. Right now I would take 23 4 stars off this guys list.
 
Originally posted by law_bee:
max emfinger has this guy rated 4 stars and if people on this board think they know more than this guy you are kidding yourself.

I think it is great we have another commit. Right now I would take 23 4 stars off this guys list.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Agree with you, Law. Go Jackets! Go Kevin!!
 
Before Pepper's last class he had signed some wonderful marginal players who went on to the nfl. Some of the so called marginal students also went on to get their Tech degree. One of the very marginal students who just happened to be one of the greatest in Tech history also excelled in the class room. You 2 guys in football dept. please correct me if I am honestly mistaken. These marginal students also just happen to be of GREAT character. Pepper had some good teams until 1978 that just had a lot of hard luck during some of the games. Then in 1978 he a great team which also had some bad luck, but went on to a bowl. I don't know what happened in that last rec. class, but I think it had something to do with more stringent academic demands placed on him by the administration. Then the horrific results of the next 4 years.
 
Techrod,

I did not realize that Bill Curry was a great recruiter. You would know more than I would since you were intimately involved.


How did Ross do with BC's recruits after BC jumped to Bama?
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This is unbelieveable...

Techrod, you don't know jack about this kid and
you don't even mention the possibility that our
staff may have done a good job finding this kid.

People get too caught up in recruitnik rankings,
as the previous list in this thread shows.

And I cannot believe people are talking about
beeware in a thread that he has not even posted
in.

Why is this board so negative when we have a winning
team that is en route to a bowl game, given all
the challenges they have faced this season.
 
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