Notre Dame Nightmare

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I woke up in a cold sweat and furious with Gailey, Bennett, and Tenuta. Dreamed I was at South Bend. They start Clausen. They are up 17-0 at halftime. Taylor played terrible. We go to Booker at halftime. Defense stiffens. We score the go ahead with about a minute left, 21-17, us. Tashard plows over from the one. We kick off out of bounds. They move down the field. We play prevent D. Clausen throws the winner with six seconds to a short WR named Rudy. I wake up.

Why am I telling this? My Mom said if you tell a dream before breakfast it won't come true. Now I can eat.
 
77GTFan said:
I woke up in a cold sweat and furious with Gailey, Bennett, and Tenuta. Dreamed I was at South Bend. They start Clausen. They are up 17-0 at halftime. Taylor played terrible. We go to Booker at halftime. Defense stiffens. We score the go ahead with about a minute left, 21-17, us. Tashard plows over from the one. We kick off out of bounds. They move down the field. We play prevent D. Clausen throws the winner with six seconds to a short WR named Rudy. I wake up.

Why am I telling this? My Mom said if you tell a dream before breakfast it won't come true. Now I can eat.
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:laugher:

Your Mom is a smart woman!:biggthumpup:
 
I had a dream that Jeff Goldblum and I were sitting in a group of six chairs. A giant hoofed demon was walking around us. Jeff told me not to worry, that the demon couldn't pick me up, because he would topple over on such small hooves. So I got up and the demon threw me into a vat of boiling oil.

This dream tells me two things,
1) Demons have excellent balance
2) Jeff Goldblum is a prick
 
beej67 said:
Who was in the other 4 chairs?
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Well, it is a nightmare, so I would guess...

1) Bill Lewis (or was Goldblum playing the role of Lewis?)
2) Carole Moore
3) Beebad
4) Teddy Valentine

Vince Dooley and Mike KZWEGIHASDGLK were in the band of demons.
 
honestly, talent-wise, ND has a better team pound for pound, IMO. BUT, GT has a lot more experience.... which gives GT the advantage. all of ND's talent is very young.

for consolation: if GT does lose to ND, i don't think you should get too upset. ND isn't the scrub team that many think they are. i tell that to ND fans too... "if ND loses to GT, don't get discouraged... GT is a very good team that is flying under the radar."
 
instant oatmeal said:
honestly, talent-wise, ND has a better team pound for pound, IMO. BUT, GT has a lot more experience.... which gives GT the advantage. all of ND's talent is very young.

for consolation: if GT does lose to ND, i don't think you should get too upset. ND isn't the scrub team that many think they are. i tell that to ND fans too... "if ND loses to GT, don't get discouraged... GT is a very good team that is flying under the radar."
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Better OL

Better DL

Better LBs

Worse Secondary (You have us beat there; our CBs are just not that good imo)

Better QB (Your QBs may be talented, but they have ZERO experience!)

Receiving Corps about equal (You lose McKnight and that Shiyamamadty guy, we lose CJ; it evens out)

Better Backfield (Cox Choice!)

Better Punter (That's quite obvious)

Probably Worse Kicking (I don't know anything about your KOS or your PK, but I know Bell is okay, however, our KOSs have never been able to get it deep enough)

Worse Kickoff team (You definitely have us beat there; we suck at defending KOs)

Returning? (I don't know who you use and right now we have Frosh doing the returns and there's no way to tell how well they would perform in a real game situation just from practices)

So if we lose, I will be extremely pissed, because we DO have the better team.
 
TechGator1066 said:
-Worse Secondary (You have us beat there; our CBs are just not that good imo)
-Better QB (Your QBs may be talented, but they have ZERO experience!)
-Probably Worse Kicking (I don't know anything about your KOS or your PK, but I know Bell is okay, however, our KOSs have never been able to get it deep enough)
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Gotta disagree with those 3. I'll take our safeties (regardless of what the national press says about Zibby) and I don't think either team has world beaters on the corners. For QB - If they go with Sharpley, he has as much (maybe more) game experience as Bennett. If you're talking about meaningful experience, then Bennett has all of 1 more games of experience. At PK - the resident ND expert in my office (ND grad & huge fan - travels from ATL to most of their home & away games) believes that PK is their biggest question mark. Bell has been around long enough to give us an advantage there. Bell really starting getting his groove again the last few weeks of the season & it's carried over into the spring and summer.
 
ContactBuzz said:
Gotta disagree with those 3. I'll take our safeties (regardless of what the national press says about Zibby) and I don't think either team has world beaters on the corners. For QB - If they go with Sharpley, he has as much (maybe more) game experience as Bennett. If you're talking about meaningful experience, then Bennett has all of 1 more games of experience. At PK - the resident ND expert in my office (ND grad & huge fan - travels from ATL to most of their home & away games) believes that PK is their biggest question mark. Bell has been around long enough to give us an advantage there. Bell really starting getting his groove again the last few weeks of the season & it's carried over into the spring and summer.
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Ah well thanks for the update then. I agree with you that our safeties are better, but I feel our corners just make our secondary vulnerable. I should have said:

Better Safeties
Worse Corners

I was under the idea that all of NDs QBs had no game experience. Thanks for correcting me on that! I still think we have a better QB though.
 
TechGator1066 said:
Better OL
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i will concede that GT has a more experienced OL. ND will have one of the top 5 centers in the nation in Sullivan, a 5* RT (Sam Young), and a group of 4*s. this DOES give the definite edge to GT... but only b/c of experience.

Better DL
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absolutely. hands down. GT.

Better LBs
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Maurice Crum is the only ND LB that would start at GT.... MAYBE Toryan Smith... maybe. GT has the edge here.

Worse Secondary (You have us beat there; our CBs are just not that good imo)
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maybe you know something i dont. ND has a lot of experience, but the secondary hasn't ever proven itself. Zibby will be a force, but you also have a very very very good safety. SLIGHT advantage ND.

Better QB (Your QBs may be talented, but they have ZERO experience!)
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debatable. Bennett has a few games under his belt... which DOES speak volumes... but i dont think his moderate experience is enough to vault him over the sheer talent that ND has at the QB position. Weis is a QB guru. the QB will be unexperienced, but i expect him to be thoroughly polished. i call this a very slight edge to GT.

Receiving Corps about equal (You lose McKnight and that Shiyamamadty guy, we lose CJ; it evens out)
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again, ND players are unproven, but they have a wealth of talent ready to play. i think that ND has better athletes at WR than GT does. i give ND a slight edge here.

Better Backfield (Cox Choice!)
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yeah, GT has a better RB in Choice. Again, ND has just awesome talent in the backfield but it is all unproven. i won't argue this, though.... i give GT the edge.

Better Punter (That's quite obvious)
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whoa whoa whoa... hold up. you didn't do your research. GT has one of the best punters in the nation... so does ND. this category is a wash -- no team has a decisive edge.

Probably Worse Kicking (I don't know anything about your KOS or your PK, but I know Bell is okay, however, our KOSs have never been able to get it deep enough)
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doubtful. ND has horrendous kickers. let's just say that you wont see many FG attempts. if we are talking strictly FG's, GT has to definitely be better. KO's could be considered a wash since our KO's won't get anywhere close to the goal line.

Worse Kickoff team (You definitely have us beat there; we suck at defending KOs)
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agree. this is a big thing, though... especially with a game so heavily reliant on field position. ND did VERY well returning KO's last year against GT and they have a stronger ST this year with better KR's.

Returning? (I don't know who you use and right now we have Frosh doing the returns and there's no way to tell how well they would perform in a real game situation just from practices)
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ND will have the edge here. AA and George West -- both run fortys in the 4.3 range. both have great vision too.

So if we lose, I will be extremely pissed, because we DO have the better team.
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more expierenced team... yes. you have a decisive edge in talent and depth on the front 7 on D. i wouldn't be so quick to judge everything else, though.
 
instant oatmeal said:
i will concede that GT has a more experienced OL. ND will have one of the top 5 centers in the nation in Sullivan, a 5* RT (Sam Young), and a group of 4*s. this DOES give the definite edge to GT... but only b/c of experience..
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At OL, experience is everything - I'll take a group of 270 lb OLs who've played together their entire careers over a group of 300 lb FR Adonis look-alikes. Well, GT has the experience and the size. ND just has the size.
 
absolutely. that's why OL is the hardest position for freshmen to contribute to. as i said, GT has the definite edge here.... but it is due to experience.
 
instant oatmeal said:
absolutely. that's why OL is the hardest position for freshmen to contribute to. as i said, GT has the definite edge here.... but it is due to experience.
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You put too much stock in those recruiting rating stars. Evaluation of talent, development, growth, attitude, response to stress, and many other factors are important for a great college player. Philip Wheeler was a 2* (http://georgiatech.scout.com/a.z?s=140&p=8&c=1&nid=478497) - how many of your 5* guys are better?

Not to say ND isn't more talented, I don't know enough about your guys to say. Also not to say that the odds are not in favor of the highly-rated guys, just that they are only odds.
 
Breaker, breaker...just to say this is a great thread guys. I love the intelligent discussion. Keep it going. And thanks for joining us IOM. :biggthumpup:
 
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