O’Leary vs. Key

stinger78 said:
O'Leary did not win a game as interim HC. Yet we hired him, and he turned it around in 2 seasons. Key just went 4-4, holding UGA to their lowest scoring total in COFH since 2016 and smallest margin of victory since 2015. Small comfort, but he had the team prepared and with few exceptions, they played well.
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O’Leary was hired as DC, with the expectation of becoming HC (not just IHC), should disaster strike. Like Collins, Lewis convinced Rice he was about to turn a corner, but disaster struck.

Despite his up and down resume, he has assumed the role of HC, and well deserved. But if JBatt goes elsewhere that’s ok, too.
 
stinger78 said:
O'Leary did not win a game as interim HC. Yet we hired him, and he turned it around in 2 seasons. Key just went 4-4, holding UGA to their lowest scoring total in COFH since 2016 and smallest margin of victory since 2015. Small comfort, but he had the team prepared and with few exceptions, they played well.
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The players wanted to win for him today.
 
The GT track record for hiring coaches in the last 55 years hasn’t been stellar. Almost as Churchill said, “we will do the right thing after we have tried everything else.”

Curry rather than Spurrier. Lewis rather than O’Leary/Friedgen. Collins rather than me (I don’t think I could have done worse). Throw in Carson, Hewitt, Hall, and a few more that bourbon won’t let me remember. But just like always, there is gold in the kitty litter. Cremmins, Ross, Johnson, O’Leary. The only thing that Collins was right about is that the right coach at Tech can be special.

Clemson is past. uga looks to have peaked. Is there anybody in the ACC that scares you? A decent coach goes 9-3 with this year’s team. The age of Orcs has passed.
 
Killick said:
The GT track record for hiring coaches in the last 55 years hasn’t been stellar. Almost as Churchill said, “we will do the right thing after we have tried everything else.”

Curry rather than Spurrier. Lewis rather than O’Leary/Friedgen. Collins rather than me (I don’t think I could have done worse). Throw in Carson, Hewitt, Hall, and a few more that bourbon won’t let me remember. But just like always, there is gold in the kitty litter. Cremmins, Ross, Johnson, O’Leary. The only thing that Collins was right about is that the right coach at Tech can be special.

Clemson is past. uga looks to have peaked. Is there anybody in the ACC that scares you? A decent coach goes 9-3 with this year’s team. The age of Orcs has passed.
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I like the cut of your jib.
 
Killick said:
The GT track record for hiring coaches in the last 55 years hasn’t been stellar. Almost as Churchill said, “we will do the right thing after we have tried everything else.”

Curry rather than Spurrier. Lewis rather than O’Leary/Friedgen. Collins rather than me (I don’t think I could have done worse). Throw in Carson, Hewitt, Hall, and a few more that bourbon won’t let me remember. But just like always, there is gold in the kitty litter. Cremmins, Ross, Johnson, O’Leary. The only thing that Collins was right about is that the right coach at Tech can be special.

Clemson is past. uga looks to have peaked. Is there anybody in the ACC that scares you? A decent coach goes 9-3 with this year’s team. The age of Orcs has passed.
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Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!
 
Pretty sure GOL was DC of the MNC team and Key was O-line coach on the worst 4 years of GT football in recent memory.

Let's not start this BS comparison.
 
BigDanT said:
Pretty sure he lost all of them. But also O’Leary was a DC of a Natty team and had Fridge. Offense was there. I think that’s what we are worried about
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If anyone looks at the Fridge vs non-Fridge O'Leary years they'll attribute the performance where it belongs. Fridge was the key piece and O'Leary would have been Chan without Fridge masterminding the offense with Goose and Joe Ham. The Fridge made a winner out of Ross, he was just an unsung hero back then. Not saying Ross would not have been a geat coach by GT standards, just we do not win a Natty without Fridge. The HC gets the record and that's where the ultimate accountability is, but there's a handful of things that define a HC's tenure. Here's the Top 2, there's a whole bunch stacked at 3-10 none of which are anywhere near as significant than #1 & #2.

a. QB play is normally #1, a guy that wins games he shouldn't- Joe Ham, Justin Thomas, Josh F'n Nesbitt. Could be another position player, but that's very rare. Winning HCs find winning QBs and they yank who they got and shove the winner in the game at the first sign the starter is struggling. That's usually the starters last start.
b. Usually a key assistant is #2- Beamer, Dabo, etc have them & O'Leary is no exception. More often than not the OC is the most important, but occasionally a team rides more heavily on its DC.

Rounding out the bottom 10 you got stuff like a clutch FG kicker, a great punter, a sack monster, a DB with the nose for the ball, that bruising RB, a possession TE, etc. There's also analysis, practice habits & organization, administration & recruiting help, etc.
 
Key has done well but he needs to earn his head coaching chops somewhere else. Unless we just strike out with the other decent targets. But Key before BOB.
 
GTsapper said:
How confident are we in Chip Long's offense? If we're not confident, how confident are we that Key and Batt can find the right man for the job? I absolutely hate watching Tech football when I know for a fact the game is over if the opponent scores 28 points.
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*chuckle*
Me too. I miss the days a running -option offence had no problem overcoming a team putting up 28 points. Oh well. Lets shotgun and try to find tight ends than can catch...and hope for 29.
 
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