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Yooperbuzz

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Occasionally, very occasionally, the Radio Talking Heads Guys are Right. The topic of Tech and NIL $$ came up. They pointed out that with a city as large as ATL and with as many Fortune 500 Headquarters (17 Fortune 500 with 14 more in the second 500) with the potential for massive NIL $$, why are we not loaded with (academically qualified) 5 star recruits?
What are we not doing? Todd?
Just asking.
 
Yooperbuzz said:
Occasionally, very occasionally, the Radio Talking Heads Guys are Right. The topic of Tech and NIL $$ came up. They pointed out that with a city as large as ATL and with as many Fortune 500 Headquarters (17 Fortune 500 with 14 more in the second 500) with the potential for massive NIL $$, why are we not loaded with (academically qualified) 5 star recruits?
What are we not doing? Todd?
Just asking.
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What’s in it for national or global corporations to throw money at players on a currently terrible mid-tier team that even the handful of die-hard fans would be hard pressed to name?

It boggles my mind that people think big companies ought to be throwing money at us just because we share an area code.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
What’s in it for national or global corporations to throw money at players on a currently terrible mid-tier team that even the handful of die-hard fans would be hard pressed to name?

It boggles my mind that people think big companies ought to be throwing money at us just because we share an area code.

JRjr
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why not make the hometown team the hometown team? we used to be
 
vapspwi said:
What’s in it for national or global corporations to throw money at players on a currently terrible mid-tier team that even the handful of die-hard fans would be hard pressed to name?

It boggles my mind that people think big companies ought to be throwing money at us just because we share an area code.

JRjr
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Yes, it's kind of a chicken and egg thing. The corporations popping up around Technology Square were drawn here by the quality of Georgia Tech. They foster it's ties with grants, donations and scholarships to the general and academic aspects of the school. At the same time, there's the argument that a stronger, nationally recognized football team is an advertising and marketing tool that the school fails to leverage, which could be remedied by encouraging corporate investment through donations, scholarships and NIL 'investments' to the football team. It's just one additional aspect of the symbiotic relationship between Georgia Tech and the corporate world that is available.
 
Hell, think about the boost in advertising during football games alone when the camera shows shots of the ATL skyline and the corporation names on those buildings. How much is it worth to those companies to have their name on a nationally televised prime time football game, as opposed to a regionally televised noon game (that's blacked out in Augusta)? That's something very few teams can offer.
 
Companies are not going to sponsor student athletes unless they have a visible national profile. A lot of these NIL collectives are simply diehard alumni trying to make their football teams just a little bit better. Texas schools have it the easiest because they're so large and have so many wealthy alumni (with all that oil money). Many Georgia Tech students don't really care about football. Many move out of state for high paying jobs. And we don't have a large alumni base to begin with. So the amount of NIL money we can funnel to recruits and players is gonna pale in comparison to larger schools with higher profile programs.
 
vapspwi said:
What’s in it for national or global corporations to throw money at players on a currently terrible mid-tier team that even the handful of die-hard fans would be hard pressed to name?

It boggles my mind that people think big companies ought to be throwing money at us just because we share an area code.

JRjr
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This plus our the audience that would be reached by using our players' NILs would me much smaller than at least 4 teams within 2 hours of us.
 
Yooperbuzz said:
Occasionally, very occasionally, the Radio Talking Heads Guys are Right. The topic of Tech and NIL $$ came up. They pointed out that with a city as large as ATL and with as many Fortune 500 Headquarters (17 Fortune 500 with 14 more in the second 500) with the potential for massive NIL $$, why are we not loaded with (academically qualified) 5 star recruits?
What are we not doing? Todd?
Just asking.
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Is anyone? There aren't many of those to go around. There's only like 25 true 5*'s every class. Probably only 1 or 2 care about playing school.

Regarding having big companies around you and getting NIL $ from them, unless they are private and the CEO is an alumi/fan ie already a booster (Waffle House and Invesco are really the only ones that come to mind for GT) it won't matter much. No public billion $ company is going to sign-off on allocating money to some unproven kid that has a small target audience. Also I think these companies don't want to align themselves with one school or team in order to not alienate the millions of fans of other schools or teams. Schools that are in small(er) towns like Tuscaloosa and Athens can partner with Athens Chevy and Tuscoloosa Ford no problem, bc 99% of their customers are already mutts or gumps.
 
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Occasionally, very occasionally, the radio talking head guys are also useless, lazy hacks.
Like ... most days that end in y.
 
Yooperbuzz said:
Occasionally, very occasionally, the Radio Talking Heads Guys are Right. The topic of Tech and NIL $$ came up. They pointed out that with a city as large as ATL and with as many Fortune 500 Headquarters (17 Fortune 500 with 14 more in the second 500) with the potential for massive NIL $$, why are we not loaded with (academically qualified) 5 star recruits?
What are we not doing? Todd?
Just asking.
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You have to win to get their attention.
 
BigDanT said:
You have to win to get their attention.
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yeah that’s what Andrew is saying with chicken and egg. Win to get their attention but need money to win. Seriously who the öööö needs a $100M glass Edge building?
 
Crazy that people still misinterpret the reality of NIL this hard. To get NIL money, you need some combination of a öööö load of passionate fans and ultra-wealthy passionate fans. We fit neither category. Having a somewhat disproportionately-high percentage of like, 8-figure net worth alumni who don't care about football in already-smallish alumni base doesn't translate to NIL. You need massive, 100k+ seat stadium fanbases like your Texas A&M's and Ohio States or you need straight-up billionaires like your Oregons, Michigan States, and Oklahoma States.

How would donating to GT football help big corporations? That's never in a million years been a model for a successful college sports department. Everyone in the Atlanta area is a 40-year old stiff in Marietta or Alpharetta or something who never even goes to Atlanta (outside of maybe their office) and has their own college football team, if they care. And then everyone in the city is either a homeless guy with scabies or a vegan lesbian. I mean, how is Northwestern doing with NIL by being in Chicago? Stanford or Cal in Silicon Valley?

The only hope of this EVER happening to any degree would be Coke throwing some money at us, since they seem at least somewhat invested in Atlanta, but even that's a pipe dream. Maybe they could give us a sweetheart deal on advertising or something but it's not like major public corporations can just yolo cash at high school football players.
 
NIL is a farce. These kids aren't getting money in exchange for marketing services except for a small few who are mostly getting a few grand from the local chicken shack.

These kids are getting NIL money from collectives of donors that were specifically created to pay players to play at a certain school.

What could NCR, Newell, Pulte, or UPS possibly stand to gain from having a college student athlete, with possible exception of maybe the 10 most nationally recognizable athletes, endorse them? Most of these fortunate 500 companies either don't need to market due to their sector, or market in a much grander scale than college football. They've got Tiger Woods, LeBron, and Serena. They don't want Jeff Sims or even Jahmyr Gibbs. They also have stockholders to whom they are accountable.
 
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There aren't many of those to go around. There's only like 25 true 5*'s every class. Probably only 1 or 2 care about playing school.
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We always did better when we did NATIONAL recruiting. By my calculations (which are probably wrong but close) our players come from:
GA - 72
FL - 14
TN - 4
NC, PA, TX - 3
VA, MD, NY, PA - 2
LA, CT, MO, CA, NJ - 1
Ireland, Belgium - 1
This looks like GA FIRST, FL maybe and the rest are just occasionally lucky. This isn't working. We have to stop the heavy concentration on GA players. The biggest problem is that outside of suburban ATL most of the GA public HS academics just ain't that good. We need to cast a very wide national net to find great players who can pass our academics. Maybe our football team should look like our student body where only 60% is from in-state.
Just my opinion.
 
What's been the issue since we left the SEC? A lot of these kids want to play "big boy football." Meaning, they want to play with and against the best players in the country. They want to be on TV and play in front of 100,000 fans in the stands. We don't check many of these boxes, sadly. We have to get back to our winning ways. We have to promote Tech and everything it has to offer and Collins has been doing that since day 1.


We def could benefit from a local corporation like Coke but how about a big donor? Or someone that is a CEO of a fortune 500 company that invests in Tech? Oregon has Phil Knight. We could use a Phil Knight to promote Tech.

Like it or not, these kids care about the stuff we might think is petty or childish.
 
I think atlanta united has proven that you can become the hometown team relatively quickly. Is that because they won or because of marketing? Is it because the games are cheap to attend with cheap concessions that really make you feel like they're happy that you're there? or did they appeal to people who already loved soccer?
 
Yooperbuzz said:
Occasionally, very occasionally, the Radio Talking Heads Guys are Right. The topic of Tech and NIL $$ came up. They pointed out that with a city as large as ATL and with as many Fortune 500 Headquarters (17 Fortune 500 with 14 more in the second 500) with the potential for massive NIL $$, why are we not loaded with (academically qualified) 5 star recruits?
What are we not doing? Todd?
Just asking.
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Most of what keeps kids from coming to Tech is not financial.
 
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