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GATechAE07 said:
Show me where Schefter was found responsible for a HIPAA violation. I'll hang up and listen...

Schefter was was sued in civil court (where anyone can be sued for anything) for improperly obtaining JPP's records. He was never investigated by the Department of HHS's Office for Civil Rights, which is responsible for enforcing HIPAA. Again, HIPAA applies specifically to medical professionals; it does not provide blanket protection over the details of a patient's medical care or disclosure by third parties.
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Oh you're 'technically' correct . But that didn't stop ESPN from settling out of court with Jason Pierre-Paul because HHS had ruled back in 2002 regarding professional athlete's medical records and employment status.

And I can tell you with 100% certainty that Paul Johnson wouldn't release information about a player's injury because he was worried about HIPAA lawsuits in the event it affected future NFL health concerns about that player. I know that because I asked him that question at a party and he told me that in the presence of about 8 or 9 other guys as we stood on a deck smoking cigars. He said that was the prevalent view of most college coaches because they didn't want to be the reason why a kid didn't get drafted if an NFL team was concerned about some injury that they had received potentially 2 or 3 years prior.
 
daBuzz said:
Oh you're 'technically' correct . But that didn't stop ESPN from settling out of court with Jason Pierre-Paul because HHS had ruled back in 2002 regarding professional athlete's medical records and employment status.

And I can tell you with 100% certainty that Paul Johnson wouldn't release information about a player's injury because he was worried about HIPAA lawsuits in the event it affected future NFL health concerns about that player. I know that because I asked him that question at a party and he told me that in the presence of about 8 or 9 other guys as we stood on a deck smoking cigars. He said that was the prevalent view of most college coaches because they didn't want to be the reason why a kid didn't get drafted if an NFL team was concerned about some injury that they had received potentially 2 or 3 years prior.
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Humble brag of the week imo.
 
Walton said:
I think the recent commit makes 6. None that are really highly rated but some good players.
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Correct.

Ryan Spiers 6'4" 275
Michael Rankins 6'5" 275 3-star
Wing Green 6'7" 270 3-star
Trent Howard 6'4" 285 3-star
Cade Kootsouradis 6'4" 285 3-star
Jordan Williams 6'6" 305 3-star
 
daBuzz said:
Oh you're 'technically' correct . But that didn't stop ESPN from settling out of court with Jason Pierre-Paul because HHS had ruled back in 2002 regarding professional athlete's medical records and employment status.

And I can tell you with 100% certainty that Paul Johnson wouldn't release information about a player's injury because he was worried about HIPAA lawsuits in the event it affected future NFL health concerns about that player. I know that because I asked him that question at a party and he told me that in the presence of about 8 or 9 other guys as we stood on a deck smoking cigars. He said that was the prevalent view of most college coaches because they didn't want to be the reason why a kid didn't get drafted if an NFL team was concerned about some injury that they had received potentially 2 or 3 years prior.
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Couldn't this be a little of "both". I thought schools/coaches hid behind player privacy. Is there any specific legal or NCAA obligation to do so? Something seemed to change about 6 years ago.

But my point is that the coach's stance is the player can release the information but that coach can't because of privacy concerns. Now the coach does typically know the status of the injury because an GTAA medical staff evaluated the player. Seem like maybe in this case the GTAA might be covered by HIPAA.
 
daBuzz said:
Correct.

Ryan Spiers 6'4" 275
Michael Rankins 6'5" 275 3-star
Wing Green 6'7" 270 3-star
Trent Howard 6'4" 285 3-star
Cade Kootsouradis 6'4" 285 3-star
Jordan Williams 6'6" 305 3-star
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Like the length. Given our current S&C program and CBK's coaching, this is a good group to start. Playing OL requires a little time to mature, but these guys have tons of potential to help us in a year or two.
 
Walton said:
Couldn't this be a little of "both". I thought schools/coaches hid behind player privacy. Is there any specific legal or NCAA obligation to do so? Something seemed to change about 6 years ago.

But my point is that the coach's stance is the player can release the information but that coach can't because of privacy concerns. Now the coach does typically know the status of the injury because an GTAA medical staff evaluated the player. Seem like maybe in this case the GTAA might be covered by HIPAA.
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Might be. I just know that Johnson wouldn't disclose the nature of injuries for that very reason and he said most other coaches followed the same practice. Honestly, I took it that he meant it more as a way to protect the player from possible future NFL negative ramifications than whether he was worried about HIPAA lawsuits. But he specifically said HIPAA when we were talking about it so it was at least a part of the reasoning in his mind.
 
I think 2 or 3 might have to start as true freshmen. Far from ideal but you do what you have to do.
 
daBuzz said:
Oh you're 'technically' correct . But that didn't stop ESPN from settling out of court with Jason Pierre-Paul because HHS had ruled back in 2002 regarding professional athlete's medical records and employment status.

And I can tell you with 100% certainty that Paul Johnson wouldn't release information about a player's injury because he was worried about HIPAA lawsuits in the event it affected future NFL health concerns about that player. I know that because I asked him that question at a party and he told me that in the presence of about 8 or 9 other guys as we stood on a deck smoking cigars. He said that was the prevalent view of most college coaches because they didn't want to be the reason why a kid didn't get drafted if an NFL team was concerned about some injury that they had received potentially 2 or 3 years prior.
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Oh, I’m actually correct. What do you know? Remind me not to take legal advice from Paul Johnson. Coaches do not release medical information for two reasons: competitive advantage and player trust, neither of which have anything to do with HIPAA. There are absolutely no mechanisms to expand HIPAA beyond its current scope, which is strictly limited to healthcare providers, enforceable by HHS. Further, there is no way for a citizen to even bring a HIPAA lawsuit—that’s simply not how it works.

Could a coach or institution be subject to a lawsuit for loss of future earnings by negligently handling player medical information? Maybe—you can sue anyone for anything. The player would likely have to demonstrate violation of an existing policy regarding the treatment of medical information—again, an institutional policy, not HIPAA—as well as real damages. Good luck proving actual draft position and contract value for anyone outside the first round.
 
Ahhh so a coach saying HIPAA affects him and other coaches doesn't really affect him because...well some nimrod AE grad says it doesn't? Got it. Carry on. .
 
daBuzz said:
Ahhh so a coach saying HIPAA affects him and other coaches doesn't really affect him because...well some nimrod AE grad says it doesn't? Got it. Carry on. .
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Excellent reading comprehension skills.

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GATechAE07 said:
Oh, I’m actually correct. What do you know? Remind me not to take legal advice from Paul Johnson. Coaches do not release medical information for two reasons: competitive advantage and player trust, neither of which have anything to do with HIPAA. There are absolutely no mechanisms to expand HIPAA beyond its current scope, which is strictly limited to healthcare providers, enforceable by HHS. Further, there is no way for a citizen to even bring a HIPAA lawsuit—that’s simply not how it works.

Could a coach or institution be subject to a lawsuit for loss of future earnings by negligently handling player medical information? Maybe—you can sue anyone for anything. The player would likely have to demonstrate violation of an existing policy regarding the treatment of medical information—again, an institutional policy, not HIPAA—as well as real damages. Good luck proving actual draft position and contract value for anyone outside the first round.
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How do you explain that 10 years ago, most every team would tell you the nature of injuries and as afar as I can tell, zero teams do that now: they might say lower body, they might say upper body but they don't tell you exactly. It wasn't just Johnson and I do remember that there was a new legal imperative coming from somewhere; it might have just been a CYA from college lawyers.

BTW, I understand that many people talk about HIPAA when it doesn't apply; it is sort of casual short hand for "we don't talk about medical issues" so I am curious how this trend started with sport injuries.
 
Walton said:
How do you explain that 10 years ago, most every team would tell you the nature of injuries and as afar as I can tell, zero teams do that now: they might say lower body, they might say upper body but they don't tell you exactly. It wasn't just Johnson and I do remember that there was a new legal imperative coming from somewhere; it might have just been a CYA from college lawyers.

BTW, I understand that many people talk about HIPAA when it doesn't apply; it is sort of casual short hand for "we don't talk about medical issues" so I am curious how this trend started with sport injuries.
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According to Swofford, competitive advantage and legalized sports gambling.

https://www.apnews.com/4196bf0f43ff4581ac6d7e3dede8741c
 
oldgold68 said:
With the latest commit, does that mean we are now slow playing Wally Yappo?
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Yappo was recently in a freak lawn-mowing incident. He will be okay (no amputated arms or legs or anything), as will the circus troupe whose bus crashed in his pool, but the Ohio Behemoth has to clean up some issues at home before he formally announces his commitment here.

You just do not slow play a Wally Yappo. Once in a generation talent.
 
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