Overrated SEC

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Does anyone have any good, objective arguments as to why the SEC is overrated and why the ACC was underrated? I remember CNNSI had an article on it last year, and someone on an N.C. State message board did a pretty objective analysis by the numbers, but I cannot find either of those right now.

I am arguing with some co-workers.

thanks.
 
I think the ACC and SEC were even in matchups last year. Unfortunately, the top 4 rated games between the SEC and ACC were probably:

Alabama - Clemson
GT - LSU
UF - FSU
GT _ UGa
 
I think the ACC and SEC were even in matchups last year. Unfortunately, the top 4 rated games between the SEC and ACC were probably:

Alabama - Clemson
GT - LSU
UF - FSU
GT _ UGa

Define top rated? You mean TV ratings?
 
ACC, last year, had the best record in football against other BCS conferances. SEC was around third or so. I think it was a stat in USA Today.

UT is the only undefeated SEC team to win the BCS championship.

LSU is the worst team to have won the BCS (2007).

ACC was .500 against the SEC in 2008.

ACC sent 10 teams to bowls last year.

These are some off the top of my head. But they're a better conferance, because they fill up 80,000+ stadiums with assholes and debutants.
 
Just clarification -- I am looking for arguments related to last year only.

thanks so far.
 
I was typing when the conferance post came, I didn't realize the SEC was last over the past two years! Great link.
 
Even so, I bet more than both combined know we played Georgia.

I don't know. The peach bowl is a pretty highly rated bowl game. I'll bet there are plenty of people in TX who know we played LSU but have no idea who else we played during the year.

And everybody knows Bama rolled over Clemson.

If VT rolls over Bama this year, it will count more perception wise than all of the games Vandy, MSU, and USCe play vs the ACC.
 
Hate to say it...but VT will not roll over Bama this year.

Though they might win in they way they usually do, by rolling over on the ground and discovering a yellow flag that saves their asses. :D (bitter much?)
 
Recent Championships + Big TV Deal + Top Rated Recruits = PERCEPTION.

However, perception only matters if you can back it up on the field. We have at least three chances this fall to do our part, and not allow the SEC to back it up...let's take care of business!

By the way, after almost 2 years of enjoying this forum, I am making my fist post.
 
I found the article I was talking about . . . granted it was posted sometime in November, so the season was not complete:

ACC: Presenting the Facts

By. Mike Bakas



Sure, there's no national championship contender in the league this year.

Sure, everyone and their brother who watches college football believes the SEC and Big 12 are the two strongest conferences in college football.

Sure, the winner of the ACC will have a few losses this season.

But what does all that mean? To the casual college football fan, it means the ACC is not very good and can not be mentioned in the same breath as power conferences like the SEC and Big 12.

Taking a closer look at the facts, however, indicates that not only is the ACC a strong conference but it deserves to be mentioned up there with any other conference in college football this year.

Lets start with the rankings -- the simplest way to determine who's doing what on the field this season. A look at the current Coaches Poll will show you something interesting -- six of the top 30 teams are from the ACC. That's more than any other BCS conference. The SEC is next with five, followed by the Big 12 (4), Big 10 (4), Pac 10 (3), and Big East (3).

OK, maybe rankings aren't enough to make a legit argument. Lets move on. Lets look at things evenly. Using non conference records (source: ncaa.org) against other BCS conferences, the ACC is at the top -- again. Their 10-7 record against other BCS Conference opponents is better than the SEC (5-4), Big 12 (7-8), Big 10 (6-7), Big East (6-7), and Pac 10 (5-7).

Not enough proof yet? OK, lets go to the computers -- something college football puts a lot of emphasis on every year to determine its bowl selections. According to Jeff Sagarin's conference rankings, the ACC comes in at No. 2 -- again ahead of the mighty SEC and just about every other conference. The Big 12 is at the top, followed by the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big East, and Pac 10.

I understand that some people believe that while the ACC ranks at or near the top of all the areas I just mentioned, it just doesn't have the talent of other leagues. Because of that, I again went to the facts. This time, I went to see what the NFL people think about the players around this conference. According to Mel Kiper's weekly player rankings, the ACC is again near the top. According to Kiper's senior rankings for next April's NFL Draft, six of the nation's top 25 seniors are from the ACC -- including four of the top 10! Only the Big 12 (seven) has more in the top 25, followed by the Pac 10 (5), SEC (4), Big 10 (3), and Big East (zero).

Opinions are great. Everyone has one and everyone, despite what they might say, likes hearing those of others. That explains why millions of people watch the guys on ESPN talk about all the games and it's why thousands of people spend time daily on fan message boards around Scout.com.

Instead of sitting here and trying to tell you why I think the ACC is one of the nation's premier conferences, I brought some facts to the table and based on my research I presented, one can conclude that the ACC is clearly one of the nation's elite conferences.

Again, maybe it doesn't have a national title contender. Maybe it doesn't have a team ranked near the top like the SEC and Big 12 do. Then again, maybe that's because the ACC is so tough that it makes it extra difficult to go through it with the same amount of success as some of the top teams from other major conferences.

As the race to see who gets to play in the ACC Championship game in Tampa in a few weeks continues, just be mindful that whoever makes it there didn't have an easy road.
 
Why is the SEC accurately thought of as the best football conference in America?

#of SEC wins in the BCS since it's inception?
#of ACC wins in the BCS since it's inception?

You can like or dislike that as a mesuring stick....but that is why.
 
They are probably the best football conference of most of the past decade (not necessarily all consecutive years) but as is the case of Virginia Tech this year, just because your the best doesn't mean the others are far behind you.
 
Why is the SEC accurately thought of as the best football conference in America?

#of SEC wins in the BCS since it's inception?
#of ACC wins in the BCS since it's inception?

You can like or dislike that as a mesuring stick....but that is why.

Since the ACC and most of the other BCS conferences didn't have 12 members during the time frame mentioned, winning percentage would provide a more accurate point of discussion. Do you have that data?
 
Recent Championships + Big TV Deal + Top Rated Recruits = PERCEPTION.

However, perception only matters if you can back it up on the field. We have at least three chances this fall to do our part, and not allow the SEC to back it up...let's take care of business!

By the way, after almost 2 years of enjoying this forum, I am making my fist post.


welcome!!!
 
Since the ACC and most of the other BCS conferences didn't have 12 members during the time frame mentioned, winning percentage would provide a more accurate point of discussion. Do you have that data?

The acc hasn't won since fsu beat the hokies...so the percentage isn't good. Since the acc went to 12 teams their winning percentage is .....0%.
 
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