Poll: Play Nesbitt hurt?

Who would you start in that scenario?

  • Nesbitt?

    Votes: 13 19.7%

  • Shaw?

    Votes: 53 80.3%
  • Total voters
    66
Shaw, for many of the reasons mentioned here, especially the one about getting Shaw gamespeed reps against an actual team. This is the perfect situation for that, in a (largely) meaningless game. It will also give the added bonus of U[sic]GA not knowing who we're going to start against them....
 
With those givens, I will take Shaw at 100% vs UM and Nesbitt at 100% vs UGA.

I think Shaw at 100%, with a full week of practice is as good as an 80% Nesbitt, both guys splitting practice time. And if Nesbitt is still hobbled after tha Miami game, then they will be spliting practice reps again before UGa.
 
gth816f said:
Shaw, for many of the reasons mentioned here, especially the one about getting Shaw gamespeed reps against an actual team. This is the perfect situation for that, in a (largely) meaningless game. It will also give the added bonus of U[sic]GA not knowing who we're going to start against them....
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I comletely (respectfully) disagree about this game being meaningless. We're 7-3 right now. Win out (including the bowl) and we hit 10 wins and a good ranking (to catapult into pre-season rankings - which DO matter later in the season). PLUS, our hopes for the ACCCG are still alive when we win. LASTLY, I'm sure there will be quite a few recruits onsite for the Whiteout - which we also don't want to end up being like UGA or F$U's blackouts.
 
GTWannaBee said:
I comletely (respectfully) disagree about this game being meaningless. We're 7-3 right now. Win out (including the bowl) and we hit 10 wins and a good ranking (to catapult into pre-season rankings - which DO matter later in the season). PLUS, our hopes for the ACCCG are still alive when we win. LASTLY, I'm sure there will be quite a few recruits onsite for the Whiteout - which we also don't want to end up being like UGA or F$U's blackouts.
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Finishing above .500 in the ACC is important, even if we weren't still in the title chase.

No team ever gets better by losing.
 
The Miami game is not meaningless, not largely meaningless, nor even slightly meaningless, but it means a crap load less than the Georgia game by comparison.
 
I know some of you guys lost your faith against Jaybo and I would have to agree that he's performance wasn't up to par against FSU but I thought he did decent against UNC.

Statistically, he had the third most productive possession against UNC. Dwyer had that 85 yard TD run. In the first half, Nesbitt drove down 64 yards before Scott missed a 40yd FG. Third best drive was Jaybo's first time in the game, he drove down 50 yards to the UNC 30 before we were forced to punt. It was still 7-0 at that point. Our defense went 3-and-out and Roddy muffed the punt at our 30 and UNC scored 14-0. Of course, Jaybo's second possession turned out to be a fumble and he should have been protecting the ball better but the blame should be distributed to the o-line.

If Josh is not 100%, there is no point in risking further injury to him. If anything, having Josh play while he's not 100% will only decrease the chances of us winning.

Give Jaybo the ball not only because we will be "saving" Josh for U(sic)GA but because having Josh play hurt has more risks than having Jaybo play at 100%. The concern should be shifted to our lack of depth at QB... if Jaybo gets hurt while playing, we will really be in trouble.
 
After a week and a half of practice with the first unit, I think Jaybo is going to be a bit more prepared to play versus Miami (than UNC).
 
What if Josh is 95%? Or what is Josh plays? Are you going to be disappointed with the coaching decision? Because, as it stands, nearly 90% of people think Jaybo should play.
 
You have to start Shaw. We tried the 85-95% Nesbitt and it doesn't favor well. Yes Shaw fumbled the ball, which was not his fault (it was a good strip and a bad line play), but he actually did spark the offense when he came in. We started pitching the perimeter, and stopped with those Dwyer up the middle 70% of the time under Nesbitt. I don't get it with Nesbitt (NOTE: I do think Nesbitt should be the starter when 100%) why does he not take the risks to go outside and pitch, and insist on the the B-Back dive so much?

I really think that a fully-practiced Shaw gives us a good chance to win. In games where Shaw practiced a lot during the week in preperation for a starting role, he has done an excellent job, see Duke and MSU.

Just win out and I'll be happy! :)
 
cajunjacket said:
What if Josh is 95%? Or what is Josh plays? Are you going to be disappointed with the coaching decision? Because, as it stands, nearly 90% of people think Jaybo should play.
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If Josh plays, I will assume that the actual scenario is different than the assumed one I posted in the poll.
 
So what I am hearing here, is that in the UNC game, Shaw suffered because of bad line play, but Nesbitt suffered because of his injury. Somehow, magically while Nesbitt was in, the line play was a lot better, but the 2 drives Shaw was in, it got worse?

Makes no sense at all. Nesbitt played better than Shaw that game, even though he was hurt, plain and simple.

That being said, I think the major reason behind Shaw's less than stellar performance was playing in hostile territory, which is not surprising considering that he is a TRUE FRESHMAN, who had hardly played any snaps away from home. If Nesbitt is less than 80-90% injured, at home, I am sure Shaw can do a pretty damn good job to lead us to a victory against Miami.

So I am in favor of playing Shaw against Miami if Nesbitt is not fully healed. Besides, I would not want to see Shaw have his first career away game start at UGA. That would be too hard a scenario for anyone to handle.
 
As much as I admire Nesbitt as an athlete and a playmaker, I am starting to suspect he will be a 6-7 game per year starter. I think we've seen some flashes of his ability, but his first season as QB has been mostly characterized by percents and uncertainty as to whether he will play week to week. We need to get some confidence in Jaybo.
 
jacket67 said:
As much as I admire Nesbitt as an athlete and a playmaker, I am starting to suspect he will be a 6-7 game per year starter. I think we've seen some flashes of his ability, but his first season as QB has been mostly characterized by percents and uncertainty as to whether he will play week to week. We need to get some confidence in Jaybo.
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+1

beej67 said:
That or we need Nesbitt to get less injury prone somehow.
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Most of the time injury prone people stay hurt, some tough it out like Josh has, but most injury prone people are never 100%. Remember Derrick Steagall?
 
That's why we need two servicable QB's. Jaybo should have been playing more at the beginning of the season. Paul knows what he is doing though. Beat Miami and then let the beatdown begin.
 
The deal is....the uga game is eons more important than the UM game...ok?
 
As much as I admire Nesbitt as an athlete and a playmaker, I am starting to suspect he will be a 6-7 game per year starter. I think we've seen some flashes of his ability, but his first season as QB has been mostly characterized by percents and uncertainty as to whether he will play week to week. We need to get some confidence in Jaybo.
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Sooo, if Jaybo were the full time starter, there's no chance at all that he has the injuries that Josh has? This offense will lead to QB injuries at times, regardless of whether it's Shaw or Nesbitt. Keep in mind that in the game Shaw started, he got blasted on a touchdown run and sat out the next week with concussion-like symptoms. There is no tangible proof that Shaw would be any less likely to be injured in this offense than Nesbitt. It's not an indictment of how Nesbitt is to injury.
 
GTSaxophone said:
Sooo, if Jaybo were the full time starter, there's no chance at all that he has the injuries that Josh has? This offense will lead to QB injuries at times, regardless of whether it's Shaw or Nesbitt. Keep in mind that in the game Shaw started, he got blasted on a touchdown run and sat out the next week with concussion-like symptoms. There is no tangible proof that Shaw would be any less likely to be injured in this offense than Nesbitt. It's not an indictment of how Nesbitt is to injury.
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I'm not suggesting that Jaybo is a 12-game starter, or that anyone would be in this offense. The fact is, though, that some players are more prone to injury and slower to come back from injuries than others. If the triple option is so hard on QBs that you need 3-4 on the depth chart, that would be a serious problem with the offense. This has not been the case in the years that CPJ used it at other schools. I certainly hope that JN has a better year in 2009 as far as injuries go, but the QB position is critical for team continuity and leadership and does not lend itself to committee. If a less talented player can provide consistency and manage to be close to 100% week in and week out, he might be the better man to fill that role. Most coaches prefer to have a single leader on offense, and that needs to be the guy who you can count on to play every week.
 
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