Preseason Analysis and Probabilities

For the record, I wasn't trying to be condescending. I just felt that you were kind of dismissive of my own opinions!

You may be right, we shall see. At least you are sure not to be disappointed! :biggthumpup:

My perspective comes from these facts:

1. GT was the youngest team in the country last year, yet still won 9 games and was the ACC's best team statistically from scrimmage.

2. This year GT returns 18 starters, tied for the most in the BCS leagues. PJ has never returned 18 starters before. Hell, one year at Navy he returned 5 starters and still went 8-4.

3. GT's returning starters have far more upside for improvement than anyone else's. First of all they're all sophs and juniors, so they're younger and still have more improvement to go. And second, they're only in the second year of their new systems.

4. Every program PJ has ever been associated with improved dramatically in his second season there. On offense they imrpove by an average of 50-60 yards per game, and they turn the ball over about 40% less often. That's a HUGE difference.

5. The GT coaches and GT practice watchers, including Wes Durham and former players, are all raving about how much better GT is gonna be this year than in 2008.

6. The 2009 schedule, given who we play and that we only have 6 home games, sets up very close to ideally. We'll have our best team in 2010, but the schedule will be considerably harder.

Now it's true we won 3 net close games and got wiped out by LSU. I personally don't think those things outweigh all the above factors, although I have let them dampen my enthusiasm by a game or so.
If you've seen my posts, you know I have pointed to 2010 as THE YEAR. It has been nothing but gravy for me since the Jax State kickoff last year as I was expected four or five wins and a lot of struggling. We are way ahead of my curve. Like I said--can't wait for more Tech football.
 
Wait a minute... are you telling me that someone in this forum actually gives Yukon an ounce of credibility when it comes to discussing GT football?

Yukon has the dubious honor of making the dumbest post that I have ever seen. When it comes to football, you'd get better analysis from Barney the Purple Dinosaur.
 
You say "is" about these items like they are facts in 2009.

But they aren't. They're just your opinions. And on all three of them, in 2009, your opinion diverges from that of the only relevant good ole boy who knows a little something about winning football.

Especially on the subject of the O-line.
We will see. The ACC will be a much tougher row to hoe than last year. Fact is, the jackets could be a better team and have a poorer record. True, those observations are my opinions but those opinions are backed up by years of watching this team. Come fall we will see who is right and who is wrong.
 
We will see. The ACC will be a much tougher row to hoe than last year. Fact is, the jackets could be a better team and have a poorer record. True, those observations are my opinions but those opinions are backed up by years of watching this team. Come fall we will see who is right and who is wrong.

Oh, I don't have a problem with your opinions, which are perfectly valid and I'd even agree they are reasonably factual -- about last year's team.

But we dont know that any of those things are true about the 2009 team, except that we lost 3 really good D-linemen. It's a very good bet that the O-line will be massively improved in 2009.

While the ACC may be tougher in 2009, the schedule is more agreeable because we get 5 of the top 7 at home. Last year was the opposite. The timing of the season also sets up better for us this year than it did in 2008.

If you think your years of watching Gailey and O'Leary coached GT teams are relevant now, then you really still don't understand what we have in Paul Johnson. I sincerely hope you and Yukon enjoy the very pleasant surprise awaiting you this fall. :biggthumpup:
 
If you've seen my posts, you know I have pointed to 2010 as THE YEAR. It has been nothing but gravy for me since the Jax State kickoff last year as I was expected four or five wins and a lot of struggling. We are way ahead of my curve. Like I said--can't wait for more Tech football.

The second year has always been the big jump for PJ teams. That's been true at his last four stops, since 1987 in Hawaii.

Moreover, if you think about it for the majority of the most successful coaches in the 2000's the second year has been the year of the big jump to national prominence. That has been true for Stoops, Tressel, Carroll, Richt, Meyer at two schools, and Saban at two schools just off the top of my head.

The third season we should improve a little more, but not nearly as much as we'll see from last season to this.

The 2010 schedule is going to be a LOT harder, because we'll have 6 tough road games versus only 2 or 3 this season. I think what Artesian says about having a better team with a worse record is more likely in 2010 than in 2009.
 
Wait a minute... are you telling me that someone in this forum actually gives Yukon an ounce of credibility when it comes to discussing GT football?

Yukon has the dubious honor of making the dumbest post that I have ever seen. When it comes to football, you'd get better analysis from Barney the Purple Dinosaur.

You're welcome to your opinion, but Yuke has always been one of my favorite posters. So I'll tell you to kiss his ass, and save him the trouble.
 
If you think your years of watching Gailey and O'Leary coached GT teams are relevant now, then you really still don't understand what we have in Paul Johnson. I sincerely hope you and Yukon enjoy the very pleasant surprise awaiting you this fall. :biggthumpup:

I watched some O'Leary coached teams as well, and every time we got our hopes up (99, 01) something dashed them.

Football is a variable sport, in order to get past 9 wins you really need the ball to bounce your way.

I hope we get 10 wins, but I'm not going to disappointed if we only manage 9.
 
You're welcome to your opinion, but Yuke has always been one of my favorite posters. So I'll tell you to kiss his ass, and save him the trouble.

Two reasons why I have zero respect for Yukon's and now your opinion on football. (This doesn't mean I don't like him or you as a poster, just that he doesn't know what he's talking about).

1.)
"Georgia Tech is de-emphasizing football by hiring Johnson" - Yukon then goes into a one page article about why Georgia Tech is trying to reduce its commitment to their sports programs and this is the beginning of the end of GT sports programs.

and
2.)
"I am making it my mission in life to rub each and every one of your noses in it when Paul Johnson is 5-7 and Muschamp is in the Sugar Bowl. The over/under for the Georgia loss streak is now set at 11. We are a bunch of losers."

Yukon may be a nice guy, but he apparently isn't too sharp a guy when it comes to understanding football.
 
Another great prediction, I wonder who said this right after we beat Jax St. This was The Great One's preseason analysis last year with one game in the books.

One quarter of the season in the books.

These are the teams we cannot beat: FSU, Georgia, Clempsen.

The toss-ups: Miami, Miss. State, UNC, Duke

The wins: UVA, Gardner-Webb
 
Two reasons why I have zero respect for Yukon's and now your opinion on football. (This doesn't mean I don't like him or you as a poster, just that he doesn't know what he's talking about).

1.)
"Georgia Tech is de-emphasizing football by hiring Johnson" - Yukon then goes into a one page article about why Georgia Tech is trying to reduce its commitment to their sports programs and this is the beginning of the end of GT sports programs.

and
2.)
"I am making it my mission in life to rub each and every one of your noses in it when Paul Johnson is 5-7 and Muschamp is in the Sugar Bowl. The over/under for the Georgia loss streak is now set at 11. We are a bunch of losers."

Yukon may be a nice guy, but he apparently isn't too sharp a guy when it comes to understanding football.
Well, he was obviously drunk, and I'll be the first to admit my lack of football knowledge. As a matter of fact, I'd be concerned if you DID respect my opinion on football. That would show you had no idea that I have no idea.

That being said, I'm still a pretty good guy, so I appreciate the part of you post that said we could still be pals.
:laugher:
 
He must drink a lot because there are 100 posts just like the above to every one decent post he makes.
 
I just want to beat UGA again and win the ACC championship and I will claim this season victorious. Maybe just maybe we can keep dwyer next season and make a run for a championship.
 
If we beat UGA and play in the ACCCG at all it'll be a good year.
 
Two reasons why I have zero respect for Yukon's and now your opinion on football. (This doesn't mean I don't like him or you as a poster, just that he doesn't know what he's talking about).

1.)
"Georgia Tech is de-emphasizing football by hiring Johnson" - Yukon then goes into a one page article about why Georgia Tech is trying to reduce its commitment to their sports programs and this is the beginning of the end of GT sports programs.

and
2.)
"I am making it my mission in life to rub each and every one of your noses in it when Paul Johnson is 5-7 and Muschamp is in the Sugar Bowl. The over/under for the Georgia loss streak is now set at 11. We are a bunch of losers."

Yukon may be a nice guy, but he apparently isn't too sharp a guy when it comes to understanding football.

BOR,

Thanks for the recap! That was very informative. :biggthumpup:

I will now quit wasting my time on Yukon's posts.

Will F'in Muschamp, LOLOLOL! BMFY is a clown. Gawd, he was my nightmare hire. Might as well have kept Gailey.

Muschamp is a football factory guy through and through, just like Mark Richt. He might do okay at Texas but he would have NO chance at success at a place like GT -- and if he happened to luck into one good season, he'd be gone ASAP to a school where he could recruit illiterate 5-stars.

I thought for years that PJ was THE perfect coach for GT and I've been on cloud nine since 12/7/07. To paraphrase a Clemson fan, PJ would make Will Muschamp look like a monkey using tools for the first time.
 
He must drink a lot because there are 100 posts just like the above to every one decent post he makes.

You should see the stuff he posts on other boards.
He's a cynical old fart, but if we were all alike, we would all call ourselves BarrelORum.
 
Football is a variable sport, in order to get past 9 wins you really need the ball to bounce your way.

Just curious: how does Beamer win 10 games every year?

Man, PJ must have really gotten a lot of bounces at GSU when he was winning 12-13 a year.

I hope we get 10 wins, but I'm not going to disappointed if we only manage 9.

Now that I can agree with! :biggthumpup:
 
As a former TA for a programming class, without even running the code to check for correctness I'd give you no higher than a C.

Who gives a s**t. this isn't about his program, it's about his findings.
 
I think Yukon just wants to be a pessimistic contrarian for pessimistic contrarian's sake, but the hardcore glass-fully-empty commentary will tend to yield some pretty stupid predictions.
 
I thought for years that PJ was THE perfect coach for GT and I've been on cloud nine since 12/7/07.
Me too. I just didn't think we'd get him if we fired Chan after never posting a losing season. I was very, very happily wrong. (but I'm still owed a bottle of booze from Kirbee)

Just curious: how does Beamer win 10 games every year?

Dumb luck.

If you watch enough VT football you'll undoubtedly agree. VT should have lost to DUKE last year.
 
The second year has always been the big jump for PJ teams. That's been true at his last four stops, since 1987 in Hawaii.

Moreover, if you think about it for the majority of the most successful coaches in the 2000's the second year has been the year of the big jump to national prominence. That has been true for Stoops, Tressel, Carroll, Richt, Meyer at two schools, and Saban at two schools just off the top of my head.

The third season we should improve a little more, but not nearly as much as we'll see from last season to this.

The 2010 schedule is going to be a LOT harder, because we'll have 6 tough road games versus only 2 or 3 this season. I think what Artesian says about having a better team with a worse record is more likely in 2010 than in 2009.

It is like the stockbrokers' disclaimer: past performance is not always indicative of future returns. :fingersx:
 
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