Quesiton about FBS/BCS

[gth816f]

That is completely and totally flawed. If there is a format to determine the champion of college football that only takes in conference champions, then EVERYONE should have to go about the same method to become champion of their conference. The fact that teams don't even play everyone in their conference is bad enough. The fact that every conference isn't of equal calibur is bad enough.

Why should a team in the ACC or the SEC or the Big 12 have to play an extra game when the Big 10, Pac 10 and Big East don't? Why does the Pac 10 have to play everyone in conference when the Big 10 doesn't? These are the kinds of issues that would be left wide open if the merits for a conference championship are left up to individual conferences. By that logic, the Big 10 could decide that the winner of the Michigan-Ohio State game is the champion regardless of the rest of the conference schedule. A bit extreme, but I'm exaggerating to illustrate my point.

No one has to tell the conferences that they must adhere to a particular format, they can just tell them to all agree on one, and stick to it.

College basketball doesn't tell the conferences how to award their autobid. They're free to do it however they want. If playing an extra game is putting ACC/SEC schools at a disadvantage, then that's their problem. No one is holding a gun to their head...except the bag of money that they're getting for putting it on.

 

[GTSaxophone]

College basketball doesn't tell the conferences how to award their autobid. They're free to do it however they want. If playing an extra game is putting ACC/SEC schools at a disadvantage, then that's their problem. No one is holding a gun to their head...except the bag of money that they're getting for putting it on.

The problem here is that the idea behind the playoffs is to give every team that is reasonably deserving/capable an equal shot at the title. I don't want the NCAA to tell the Big 10 to start a championship game. I want the NCAA or whatever body governs the playoffs to tell the conferences to get together, sit down, and come up with a format that's the same across the board. Just because it's done in basketball doesn't make it right. If the autobids in basketball are awarded differently by conference then I think that is wrong as well.

 

[gth816f]

The problem here is that the idea behind the playoffs is to give every team that is reasonably deserving/capable an equal shot at the title. I don't want the NCAA to tell the Big 10 to start a championship game. I want the NCAA or whatever body governs the playoffs to tell the conferences to get together, sit down, and come up with a format that's the same across the board. Just because it's done in basketball doesn't make it right. If the autobids in basketball are awarded differently by conference then I think that is wrong as well.

Well, now everybody in college basketball does it via the postseason tournament now because those tournaments make them so much money. The one exception is the Ivy League, which we all know doesn't care about money so they tend to do things the right way. There's nothing to stop the ACC from doing it the same way, but they make such a killing on the ACC tournament that it would never happen.

 

[lonestarjacket]

I have the feeling that this kind of discussion could go all day, because we've said the same thing in each post :laugher:

My bottom line point is that the rules of the Big 12 were crap in this situation. Texas didn't blow anything, their conference inadvertently favored Oklahoma for losing earlier in the season.

But it wasn't "inadvertent." By SEC rules for example Texas would have won the tie-breaker, simply because three way ties are settled by eliminating one team, then starting at the top again. TT would have been eliminated on the third tie-breaker, then Texas had the advantage over OU.

The point others are making is the Big-12 made its own bed in using the BCS ranking in a tie-breaker. In effect, they made the conference championship an issue of national opinion.

They used the BCS in a contrived (as opposed to "inadvertent") way to send the best BCS team to its BCS bowl.

 

[ncjacket]

The problem here is that the idea behind the playoffs is to give every team that is reasonably deserving/capable an equal shot at the title. I don't want the NCAA to tell the Big 10 to start a championship game. I want the NCAA or whatever body governs the playoffs to tell the conferences to get together, sit down, and come up with a format that's the same across the board. Just because it's done in basketball doesn't make it right. If the autobids in basketball are awarded differently by conference then I think that is wrong as well.

Well, that's your idea behind the playoffs. The conferences and presidents dictate to the NCAA, not the other way around.