Re: What exactly did Paul Johnson see....

CPJ made some great adjustments which have already been mentioned, but there were some big plays to be made in the 1st half that we just didn't execute properly.

One I can recall specifically. If you have the game saved or DVR'd it, go to the 2nd quarter and look at the play around the 6:08 mark (6:08 remaining, that is). To my very untrained eye, this is just a simple triple option play where Josh handed it to Jon when he should've kept it and pitched to Roddy. The DE pinches down on Jon, and to top it off there isn't anybody near Roddy. Now this could be a called dive play, but I don't know. Anyway, we didn't execute very well in the 1st half.
 
mm42 said:
What was his concern? Did he want to make sure the scorekeeper listed it as a pass in the box score, or what?
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Too stupid to realize that a "shovel pass" behind the line of scrimmage is a legal play, perhaps.
 
It seemed to me like we made a more concerted effort to get JD out on the edge in the second half, starting with the first play. They had pretty well shut down the dive in the first half, and some of the defenders when chasing him down on that play seemed surprised that he was blowing right by them, almost as if they had either watched no film from the Miami and F$U games or they were simply so arrogant they believed that their speed was much greater than those teams.

Looking back on it, I wonder how things would have played out if the score had been something more like 28-21 at the half instead of 28-12. Would they have buckled down and played better assignment football in the second half if they regarded us as more of a threat?
 
gtfan088 said:
almost as if they had either watched no film from the Miami and F$U games or they were simply so arrogant they believed that their speed was much greater than those teams.
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GT, FSU, UM are not in the SEC, so ugay obviously was faster right?
 
mm42 said:
What was his concern? Did he want to make sure the scorekeeper listed it as a pass in the box score, or what?
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Sounds like he was thinking it should have been called an illegal forward lateral.
 
After watching the game twice, here are a few things I saw:

1) On the first play in the 2nd half, Johnson pulled the left guard to take out the right DE, who had been floating between the QB and pitch. He got enough of a block to spring Dwyer around the edge. After that Ellerbe just came in trying to lay wood and didn't even use his arms to wrap up AT ALL. 60 yds later, it's a TD.

2) On several other occasions, Johnson started using the WR's to crack back on the OLB/safety. On one of the long plays, the DB was in man coverage and even followed BeBe when he turned to crack back. This effectively took out two defenders from the edge, which Jones went around and took to the house.

3) On a couple of occasions the UGA defenders just started getting either lazy or confused. On one of the 3rd down attempts in the 4th quarter #44 for UGA (OLB - not sure of the name) just got stuck in no man's land between the QB and the pitch. Since the safety came up for the QB, my guess was that he had the pitch. Well, he just froze for a step or two and it was no problem for Roddy to run right around him.

4) Even though there were good adjustments, there were still a ton of BAD tackle attempts as well (see Rashad Jones on Roddy's 4th qtr. TD). However, these tackle attempts were still usually 5-7 yards downfield, so even if they make them it's still a very successful play.

In all, I think Johnson's offense just does this to a defense. When you're not sure who's going where and you start getting beat every play, I think it's just natural to start getting frustrated and over/under pursue and not wrap up. I mean, this offense makes A LOT of defenses look bad. I'm glad it's on my side!!
 
gtfan088 said:
It seemed to me like we made a more concerted effort to get JD out on the edge in the second half, starting with the first play. They had pretty well shut down the dive in the first half, and some of the defenders when chasing him down on that play seemed surprised that he was blowing right by them, almost as if they had either watched no film from the Miami and F$U games or they were simply so arrogant they believed that their speed was much greater than those teams.

Looking back on it, I wonder how things would have played out if the score had been something more like 28-21 at the half instead of 28-12. Would they have buckled down and played better assignment football in the second half if they regarded us as more of a threat?
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Dwyer has gotten most of his big runs this year up the middle when the safeties bit on the QB or the pitch. My guess is Willie thought UGA could play the outside one-on-one, i.e. one man on the QB, one on the pitch-man and one on the WR. The rest of the team was told to key in on the dive, the most lethal weapon for Tech this year.

In the second half, those assigned to the outside did not anticipate the pitch developing as fast as it did. Except for one play where UGA just decided not to tackle Roddy, the big runs were given up by those assigned to the outside not taking the right angles, anticipating the play staying inside longer than it did.

This analysis, btw, is by someone who hasn't played football past a bad Division 1A high school team and it's probably wrong. Take it for what it's worth.
 
Damn! Sorry guys. I guess it was a long post after going back and re-reading it. I got carried away, I guess as a combination between the excitement over the UGA victory and the single malt scotch I had partaken in earlier (probably more the later than former). Anyway, thanks ARCHitech for the heads up about certain members. I actually already know about a few of them from lurking and reading some of the back-and-forth banter between certain members. It's quite amusing! I guess I'm in the role of the new dog in the family (sorry for the blasphemous analogy) and the older one's have to "whip my ass" a few times before I can be accepted. That's OK. I actually love this board because of it. Anyway, so you actually know I can hit the enter button....:laugher:

This offense is so hard to keep up with at times when running at game speed, that for me (and I consider myself football savvy) it's hard to discern what's happening on the field. Even when going back and watching it in slow motion, it's hard for me to pick up. I actually kind of feel sorry for defenses that have to defend us live. Anyway, I agree with a lot of you I guess, in that I feel it was a combination of things. UGA's overconfidence in the 2nd half, PJ's subtle but genious adjustments, our kid's never quit attitude. Whatever it was, it was beautiful!:D

Also, I'm not sure if this has already been discussed on here, but one of the members of another board who supposedly knows some higher-ups at Chick-Fil-A says we're definitely in the Chicken bow vs. either LSU or USCe. Of course you know how "insider" information is and all remember it well during PJ's hiring process. The only thing that gives credence to this is Tony Barnhart in the AJC today is saying the same thing from some calls he made over the weekend. So who knows. i think this would be cool to whip some more SEC ass to hopefully shut up some of the blow-hards. I guess we'll see this Sunday.:fingersx:

Go Jackets!
 
Also, a little off topic, but did anyone see little Marcus Wright (not sure what quarter it was) lead into the hole with Josh trailing and laying a lick on Rennie Curran. Josh only got 5-6 yds but it was beautiful to see the little man take on big, bad Rennie and get the best of him. Just another example of how our guys play with as much/more heart than any team in the country!
 
gtalum96 said:
Anyway, thanks ARCHitech for the heads up about certain members. I actually already know about a few of them from lurking and reading some of the back-and-forth banter between certain members. It's quite amusing!

Go Jackets!
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Actually, ArchiTECH has carnal knowledge of Mr. Gator and Mr. Barrel - there, it is out of the closet and I'm a better man/women for it (they may deny this and ArchiTECH is sensitive to their sensitivity to this sensitive subject - being sensitive, also).

The point is, two of ArchiTECH's favorite posters are Mr. Gator (that big tease) and Mr. Barrel (what can ArchiTECH say - Mr. Barrel has fulfilled, how shall we say...certain - "fantasies" of a large, mean (but attractive) man-type "disciplining" ArchiTECH).

Mr. RefrigeratorMover is intoxicating also. Sweaty football players are always worth a flirting glance, don't you think?

If you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to ask.

love,
ArchiTECH
 
i was wondering during the game if they tracked forward pitches versus backward ones.

if they did it right, our pass numbers would increase dramatically given that more than 50% of the pitches (especially on the big yardage plays) were definitely forward pitches.

if the coaches made a big deal about it, i bet they would start counting it right. now, do we really want to take all those rushing yards away from Dwyer and Roddy just to get passing yards? it would be interesting to look at the statistics
 
now, do we really want to take all those rushing yards away from Dwyer and Roddy just to get passing yards?
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They'd just get receiving yards instead. :)
 
hdtvfan said:
Sounds like he was thinking it should have been called an illegal forward lateral.
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It is illegal only if it happens past the line of scrimmage, otherwise, as noted by others, it's a forward pass.

And I would not take away Dwyer's rushing yardage, because that's really what it was, even if the pitch was technically a pass.
 
jacket67 said:
Most of the pitches that produced big yardage were very fast and lateral to the sidelines. A UGA fan in front of me kept yelling "forward lateral!" ....
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My response to the guy in front of you:

"You see, dumb puppy, there is this thing called a 'line of scrimmage'. When you are behind this 'line of scrimmage' and you are the quarterback, you can deliver the ball forward or backward without worry. When pitching the ball forward, we typically call this a 'forward pass'. You may have seen one of these."

Of course, they never call it a pass, but I'm sure we'll see the day when a "fumble" gets overturned on review because the pitch was actually a forward pass.
 
gtalum96 said:
Also, a little off topic, but did anyone see little Marcus Wright (not sure what quarter it was) lead into the hole with Josh trailing and laying a lick on Rennie Curran. Josh only got 5-6 yds but it was beautiful to see the little man take on big, bad Rennie and get the best of him. Just another example of how our guys play with as much/more heart than any team in the country!
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I totally saw that and had to rewind it for some of the people in the room who were getting a beer. I then showed an angle from ground level where you can see he really does look like a pee-wee football player out there. Also, I think it was Marcus Wright who recovered the fumble on UGAy's kickoff return. Little kid is a monster!
 
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