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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-01/do-college-football-refs-have-it-in-for-your-team

“This is an incestuous situation,” says Rhett Brymer, a business management professor at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. He spent more than a year parsing almost 39,000 fouls called in games involving NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision teams in the 2012-2015 seasons. His research finds “ample evidence of biases among conference officials,” including “conference officials showing partiality towards teams with the highest potential to generate revenue for their conference.”
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If true, this shouldn't surprise anyone. Them dudes are human and are aware of situations going on around the conferences and on the national scale.

The maddening thing for me is when the talking heads speak as if there's no biases and there are no agendas among officials. If anything, they should say nothing on the subject. Certainly shouldn't talk down to fans who question things when calls just don't make sense.

Does Duke bball get preferential calls? Certainly 'yes', but the "experts" say, "No, they just have better players so it seems like they get all the calls but no that's just 'cause they're better than you."

Wha? We're not idiots.
 
ACC refs sure have screwed us more often than not over the years against UGAg
 
I'm not saying I don't agree that favoritism happens (I definitely think it does), but couldn't it also stand to reason that a lot of the best teams are the best teams because they're more disciplined and/or also have superior athletes that can better hold a block/cover a receiver without committing a penalty?
 
Deke said:
I'm not saying I don't agree that favoritism happens (I definitely think it does), but couldn't it also stand to reason that a lot of the best teams are the best teams because they're more disciplined and/or also have superior athletes that can better hold a block/cover a receiver without committing a penalty?
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Yes, definitely. I seriously question the reasoning of this study; it seems to assume that the "discretionary calls" should be 50/50 among the teams, but I don't see any reason to think that would be the case. Many penalties such as holding and pass interference are committed because guys got beat and had no other option. It makes sense that top ranked teams would have fewer of those.

Protected flagships in the Big Ten did especially well with officials, the research shows. Ohio State, the conference’s most competitive flagship team in the years Brymer studied, was 14 percent less likely to be dinged for a discretionary foul than, say, Purdue, a non-flagship team with little chance of contending for a national title. The Buckeyes fared even better with refs in 2014, when it made the first-ever formal playoff and won the national championship on Jan. 12, 2015.
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Like...no kidding one of the best teams in the nation is going to commit fewer penalties on average than a mediocre team. How can you possibly look at that as evidence of bias?
 
Somebody needs to tell the ACC crew that officiated our game with Clemson this year they missed the memo, because they did everything they could to keep us in the game this year. I couldn't believe some of the calls that went our way.
 
Crappy study, but then I remember the annual game-saving turbo-bogus PI call against F$U every single year of the 90's.
 
Still remember that game in Cameron where Lawal and Favors had 5 fouls between them in the first 5 or so minutes of the game. That was the worst abuse of refereeing affecting a GT basketball game I've ever seen. They effectively neutralized two of the best bigs in the conference right out of the gates. They literally called two fouls on Lawal 33 seconds into the game. Never seen anything like that in any other basketball game.
 
ron "the business" cherry takes a hit during the USC-ND game and has to go to the hospital......

 
andrew said:
Yes, definitely. I seriously question the reasoning of this study; it seems to assume that the "discretionary calls" should be 50/50 among the teams, but I don't see any reason to think that would be the case. Many penalties such as holding and pass interference are committed because guys got beat and had no other option. It makes sense that top ranked teams would have fewer of those.



Like...no kidding one of the best teams in the nation is going to commit fewer penalties on average than a mediocre team. How can you possibly look at that as evidence of bias?
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I agree. I've always reasoned the "FSU always gets the calls in football" or "UNC/Duke always in basketball" thing is thrown around because of the talent and coaching of those teams you need so much to go in your favor to have a chance to beat them. We as fans find those questionable calls as easy reasons to point to.
 
as i read this thread, there were at least 3 blocks in the back on alabama during a punt return. none were called.

gotta have bama in the cfp
 
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